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fastgm
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by fastgm »
FGRL rating list -
60 min + 15 sec
Minic 2.00 (New:
2952)
FGRL rating list -
16 cores
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Lc0 0.24.1 Leelenstein 14.2
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# Engine : Elo Error Games Points (%) W D L D(%) CFS
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1 Lc0 0.24.1 LS 14.2 : 3470 11 2500 1967.0 78.68 1505 924 71 36.96 93
2 Lc0 0.24.0 LS 14 : 3459 9 3500 2677.0 76.49 1964 1426 110 40.74 93
3 Lc0k 0.23.2 256x20-T40-1541 : 3450 8 3500 2645.5 75.59 1932 1427 141 40.77 100
4 Fat Fritz 1.1 : 3431 9 3250 2453.0 75.48 1808 1290 152 39.69 57
5 Lc0 0.24.1 384x30-T60-3010 : 3430 10 2750 2089.5 75.98 1514 1151 85 41.85 75
6 Lc0 0.22.0 T40B.4-160 : 3425 8 3750 2705.0 72.13 1875 1660 215 44.27 56
7 Stockfish 11 C0 : 3425 7 3500 1796.0 51.31 502 2588 410 73.94 69
8 Lc0 0.22.0 42850 : 3422 8 3750 2691.5 71.77 1874 1635 241 43.60 72
9 Stockfish 11 : 3419 7 4000 2157.5 53.94 777 2761 462 69.03 99
10 Lc0k 0.23.2 62172 : 3404 10 2500 1827.0 73.08 1256 1142 102 45.68 53
11 Lc0 LS-LS 12.2 : 3403 8 3500 2481.0 70.89 1655 1652 193 47.20 77
12 Lc0 0.22.0 J13B.2-188 : 3399 8 3750 2598.5 69.29 1702 1793 255 47.81 67
13 Lc0 LS-LS 12.1 : 3396 8 3000 2056.0 68.53 1299 1514 187 50.47 51
14 Lc0k 0.23.2 384x30-T40-2036 : 3396 8 3500 2454.5 70.13 1681 1547 272 44.20 98
15 Fat Fritz 1.0 : 3383 9 3000 2012.0 67.07 1311 1402 287 46.73 88
16 Lc0 0.22.0 32930 : 3376 7 3750 2503.0 66.75 1592 1822 336 48.59 59
17 Lc0 0.22.0 LS 12 preview : 3375 9 2750 1876.0 68.22 1258 1236 256 44.95 57
18 Stockfish 10 : 3373 8 2750 1337.5 48.64 428 1819 503 66.15 67
19 Lc0 0.23.2 61950 : 3371 7 3750 2482.0 66.19 1550 1864 336 49.71 64
20 Lc0 0.23.2 58613+ : 3369 10 2500 1750.0 70.00 1200 1100 200 44.00 71
21 Lc0 0.22.0 384x30-T40-1573 : 3365 9 2750 1846.0 67.13 1220 1252 278 45.53 100
22 Lc0 0.22.0 11260 : 3336 9 2750 1755.5 63.84 1044 1423 283 51.75 98
23 Houdini 6.03 : 3325 6 5000 2015.0 40.30 526 2978 1496 59.56 65
24 Komodo 13.3 : 3323 8 3000 1111.5 37.05 251 1721 1028 57.37 100
25 Komodo 13.2.5 : 3308 7 4500 1749.5 38.88 503 2493 1504 55.40 100
26 Scorpio 3.07 NN-ens-net-20x256 : 3278 9 2500 1466.5 58.66 855 1223 422 48.92 100
27 Ethereal 12.00 : 3226 9 3000 769.5 25.65 142 1255 1603 41.83 100
28 Xiphos 0.6 : 3208 7 5000 1310.0 26.20 210 2200 2590 44.00 67
29 Ethereal 11.75 : 3206 7 4500 1196.0 26.58 210 1972 2318 43.82 86
30 Fire 7.1 : 3200 7 5000 1268.0 25.36 252 2032 2716 40.64 100
31 Booot 6.4 : 3137 11 3000 521.0 17.37 61 920 2019 30.67 80
32 Laser 1.7 : 3132 8 5000 944.0 18.88 161 1566 3273 31.32 94
33 Andscacs 0.95 : 3122 8 5000 903.0 18.06 167 1472 3361 29.44 100
34 Deep Shredder 13 : 3100 9 5000 818.0 16.36 114 1408 3478 28.16 83
35 Booot 6.3.1 : 3094 9 4750 767.0 16.15 118 1298 3334 27.33 ---
White advantage = 60.83 +/- 1.00
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 64.64 % +/- 0.28
Games : 63.000 (finished)
White Wins : 21.371 (33.9 %)
Black Wins : 13.146 (20.9 %)
Draws : 28.483 (45.2 %)
White Score : 56.5 %
Black Score : 43.5 %
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xr_a_y
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by xr_a_y »
thanks for testing at LTC !
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MMarco
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by MMarco »
fastgm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:09 pm
FGRL rating list -
60 min + 15 sec
Minic 2.00 (New:
2952)
FGRL rating list -
16 cores
1.
Lc0 0.24.1 Leelenstein 14.2
Code: Select all
# Engine : Elo Error Games Points (%) W D L D(%) CFS
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1 Lc0 0.24.1 LS 14.2 : 3470 11 2500 1967.0 78.68 1505 924 71 36.96 93
2 Lc0 0.24.0 LS 14 : 3459 9 3500 2677.0 76.49 1964 1426 110 40.74 93
3 Lc0k 0.23.2 256x20-T40-1541 : 3450 8 3500 2645.5 75.59 1932 1427 141 40.77 100
4 Fat Fritz 1.1 : 3431 9 3250 2453.0 75.48 1808 1290 152 39.69 57
5 Lc0 0.24.1 384x30-T60-3010 : 3430 10 2750 2089.5 75.98 1514 1151 85 41.85 75
6 Lc0 0.22.0 T40B.4-160 : 3425 8 3750 2705.0 72.13 1875 1660 215 44.27 56
7 Stockfish 11 C0 : 3425 7 3500 1796.0 51.31 502 2588 410 73.94 69
8 Lc0 0.22.0 42850 : 3422 8 3750 2691.5 71.77 1874 1635 241 43.60 72
9 Stockfish 11 : 3419 7 4000 2157.5 53.94 777 2761 462 69.03 99
10 Lc0k 0.23.2 62172 : 3404 10 2500 1827.0 73.08 1256 1142 102 45.68 53
11 Lc0 LS-LS 12.2 : 3403 8 3500 2481.0 70.89 1655 1652 193 47.20 77
12 Lc0 0.22.0 J13B.2-188 : 3399 8 3750 2598.5 69.29 1702 1793 255 47.81 67
13 Lc0 LS-LS 12.1 : 3396 8 3000 2056.0 68.53 1299 1514 187 50.47 51
14 Lc0k 0.23.2 384x30-T40-2036 : 3396 8 3500 2454.5 70.13 1681 1547 272 44.20 98
15 Fat Fritz 1.0 : 3383 9 3000 2012.0 67.07 1311 1402 287 46.73 88
16 Lc0 0.22.0 32930 : 3376 7 3750 2503.0 66.75 1592 1822 336 48.59 59
17 Lc0 0.22.0 LS 12 preview : 3375 9 2750 1876.0 68.22 1258 1236 256 44.95 57
18 Stockfish 10 : 3373 8 2750 1337.5 48.64 428 1819 503 66.15 67
19 Lc0 0.23.2 61950 : 3371 7 3750 2482.0 66.19 1550 1864 336 49.71 64
20 Lc0 0.23.2 58613+ : 3369 10 2500 1750.0 70.00 1200 1100 200 44.00 71
21 Lc0 0.22.0 384x30-T40-1573 : 3365 9 2750 1846.0 67.13 1220 1252 278 45.53 100
22 Lc0 0.22.0 11260 : 3336 9 2750 1755.5 63.84 1044 1423 283 51.75 98
23 Houdini 6.03 : 3325 6 5000 2015.0 40.30 526 2978 1496 59.56 65
24 Komodo 13.3 : 3323 8 3000 1111.5 37.05 251 1721 1028 57.37 100
25 Komodo 13.2.5 : 3308 7 4500 1749.5 38.88 503 2493 1504 55.40 100
26 Scorpio 3.07 NN-ens-net-20x256 : 3278 9 2500 1466.5 58.66 855 1223 422 48.92 100
27 Ethereal 12.00 : 3226 9 3000 769.5 25.65 142 1255 1603 41.83 100
28 Xiphos 0.6 : 3208 7 5000 1310.0 26.20 210 2200 2590 44.00 67
29 Ethereal 11.75 : 3206 7 4500 1196.0 26.58 210 1972 2318 43.82 86
30 Fire 7.1 : 3200 7 5000 1268.0 25.36 252 2032 2716 40.64 100
31 Booot 6.4 : 3137 11 3000 521.0 17.37 61 920 2019 30.67 80
32 Laser 1.7 : 3132 8 5000 944.0 18.88 161 1566 3273 31.32 94
33 Andscacs 0.95 : 3122 8 5000 903.0 18.06 167 1472 3361 29.44 100
34 Deep Shredder 13 : 3100 9 5000 818.0 16.36 114 1408 3478 28.16 83
35 Booot 6.3.1 : 3094 9 4750 767.0 16.15 118 1298 3334 27.33 ---
White advantage = 60.83 +/- 1.00
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 64.64 % +/- 0.28
Games : 63.000 (finished)
White Wins : 21.371 (33.9 %)
Black Wins : 13.146 (20.9 %)
Draws : 28.483 (45.2 %)
White Score : 56.5 %
Black Score : 43.5 %
I find your lists very interesting, very well done.
Regarding the 16 cores one, why is that that Stockfish's draw rate is so much higher than the one's of the Lc0's, or even other AB engines?
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Raphexon
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by Raphexon »
MMarco wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:48 pm
fastgm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:09 pm
FGRL rating list -
60 min + 15 sec
Minic 2.00 (New:
2952)
FGRL rating list -
16 cores
1.
Lc0 0.24.1 Leelenstein 14.2
Code: Select all
# Engine : Elo Error Games Points (%) W D L D(%) CFS
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1 Lc0 0.24.1 LS 14.2 : 3470 11 2500 1967.0 78.68 1505 924 71 36.96 93
2 Lc0 0.24.0 LS 14 : 3459 9 3500 2677.0 76.49 1964 1426 110 40.74 93
3 Lc0k 0.23.2 256x20-T40-1541 : 3450 8 3500 2645.5 75.59 1932 1427 141 40.77 100
4 Fat Fritz 1.1 : 3431 9 3250 2453.0 75.48 1808 1290 152 39.69 57
5 Lc0 0.24.1 384x30-T60-3010 : 3430 10 2750 2089.5 75.98 1514 1151 85 41.85 75
6 Lc0 0.22.0 T40B.4-160 : 3425 8 3750 2705.0 72.13 1875 1660 215 44.27 56
7 Stockfish 11 C0 : 3425 7 3500 1796.0 51.31 502 2588 410 73.94 69
8 Lc0 0.22.0 42850 : 3422 8 3750 2691.5 71.77 1874 1635 241 43.60 72
9 Stockfish 11 : 3419 7 4000 2157.5 53.94 777 2761 462 69.03 99
10 Lc0k 0.23.2 62172 : 3404 10 2500 1827.0 73.08 1256 1142 102 45.68 53
11 Lc0 LS-LS 12.2 : 3403 8 3500 2481.0 70.89 1655 1652 193 47.20 77
12 Lc0 0.22.0 J13B.2-188 : 3399 8 3750 2598.5 69.29 1702 1793 255 47.81 67
13 Lc0 LS-LS 12.1 : 3396 8 3000 2056.0 68.53 1299 1514 187 50.47 51
14 Lc0k 0.23.2 384x30-T40-2036 : 3396 8 3500 2454.5 70.13 1681 1547 272 44.20 98
15 Fat Fritz 1.0 : 3383 9 3000 2012.0 67.07 1311 1402 287 46.73 88
16 Lc0 0.22.0 32930 : 3376 7 3750 2503.0 66.75 1592 1822 336 48.59 59
17 Lc0 0.22.0 LS 12 preview : 3375 9 2750 1876.0 68.22 1258 1236 256 44.95 57
18 Stockfish 10 : 3373 8 2750 1337.5 48.64 428 1819 503 66.15 67
19 Lc0 0.23.2 61950 : 3371 7 3750 2482.0 66.19 1550 1864 336 49.71 64
20 Lc0 0.23.2 58613+ : 3369 10 2500 1750.0 70.00 1200 1100 200 44.00 71
21 Lc0 0.22.0 384x30-T40-1573 : 3365 9 2750 1846.0 67.13 1220 1252 278 45.53 100
22 Lc0 0.22.0 11260 : 3336 9 2750 1755.5 63.84 1044 1423 283 51.75 98
23 Houdini 6.03 : 3325 6 5000 2015.0 40.30 526 2978 1496 59.56 65
24 Komodo 13.3 : 3323 8 3000 1111.5 37.05 251 1721 1028 57.37 100
25 Komodo 13.2.5 : 3308 7 4500 1749.5 38.88 503 2493 1504 55.40 100
26 Scorpio 3.07 NN-ens-net-20x256 : 3278 9 2500 1466.5 58.66 855 1223 422 48.92 100
27 Ethereal 12.00 : 3226 9 3000 769.5 25.65 142 1255 1603 41.83 100
28 Xiphos 0.6 : 3208 7 5000 1310.0 26.20 210 2200 2590 44.00 67
29 Ethereal 11.75 : 3206 7 4500 1196.0 26.58 210 1972 2318 43.82 86
30 Fire 7.1 : 3200 7 5000 1268.0 25.36 252 2032 2716 40.64 100
31 Booot 6.4 : 3137 11 3000 521.0 17.37 61 920 2019 30.67 80
32 Laser 1.7 : 3132 8 5000 944.0 18.88 161 1566 3273 31.32 94
33 Andscacs 0.95 : 3122 8 5000 903.0 18.06 167 1472 3361 29.44 100
34 Deep Shredder 13 : 3100 9 5000 818.0 16.36 114 1408 3478 28.16 83
35 Booot 6.3.1 : 3094 9 4750 767.0 16.15 118 1298 3334 27.33 ---
White advantage = 60.83 +/- 1.00
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 64.64 % +/- 0.28
Games : 63.000 (finished)
White Wins : 21.371 (33.9 %)
Black Wins : 13.146 (20.9 %)
Draws : 28.483 (45.2 %)
White Score : 56.5 %
Black Score : 43.5 %
I find your lists very interesting, very well done.
Regarding the 16 cores one, why is that that Stockfish's draw rate is so much higher than the one's of the Lc0's, or even other AB engines?
http://www.fastgm.de/h2h16-60.html
SF11 has only been tested against the neural nets while the neural nets are slaughtering weaker engines.
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MMarco
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by MMarco »
Raphexon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:50 pm
MMarco wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:48 pm
I find your lists very interesting, very well done.
Regarding the 16 cores one, why is that that Stockfish's draw rate is so much higher than the one's of the Lc0's, or even other AB engines?
http://www.fastgm.de/h2h16-60.html
SF11 has only been tested against the neural nets while the neural nets are slaughtering weaker engines.
Oh! I see. Thank you for the information.
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jjoshua2
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by jjoshua2 »
fastgm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:09 pm
FGRL rating list -
60 min + 15 sec
Thanks for the update! It is helpful to see and verify progress!
