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Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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This Stockfish has a time stamp 160820 and it is a participant of CCC now.
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:54 am This Stockfish has a time stamp 160820 and it is a participant of CCC now.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/

https://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

or compile from https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:54 am This Stockfish has a time stamp 160820 and it is a participant of CCC now.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/

https://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

or compile from https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish
Thanks, I search for the src of Stockfish-dev, on Github.com.... there is only the NNUE version others are the binaries only.
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:07 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:54 am This Stockfish has a time stamp 160820 and it is a participant of CCC now.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/

https://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

or compile from https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish
Thanks, I search for the src of Stockfish-dev, on Github.com.... there is only the NNUE version others are the binaries only.
Official Stockfish now includes NNUE. That is Stockfish-dev. If you compile and run with "Use NNUE = false" (the default setting) then you will get Stockfish-dev using just the classical (non-NNUE) evaluation.
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:26 pm
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:07 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:54 am This Stockfish has a time stamp 160820 and it is a participant of CCC now.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/

https://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

or compile from https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish
Thanks, I search for the src of Stockfish-dev, on Github.com.... there is only the NNUE version others are the binaries only.
Official Stockfish now includes NNUE. That is Stockfish-dev. If you compile and run with "Use NNUE = false" (the default setting) then you will get Stockfish-dev using just the classical (non-NNUE) evaluation.
It is pity but not true. SF+NNUE has a lot of modification considering the real Stockfish-dev. These can be deleted but it is rather time consuming thing. I think on CCC the real sf-dev is playing.
Note
Old Stockfish-dev is not so weak as it seems from SF+NNUE against old Stockfish-dev matches
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:11 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:26 pm
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:07 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:54 am This Stockfish has a time stamp 160820 and it is a participant of CCC now.
https://abrok.eu/stockfish/

https://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

or compile from https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish
Thanks, I search for the src of Stockfish-dev, on Github.com.... there is only the NNUE version others are the binaries only.
Official Stockfish now includes NNUE. That is Stockfish-dev. If you compile and run with "Use NNUE = false" (the default setting) then you will get Stockfish-dev using just the classical (non-NNUE) evaluation.
It is pity but not true. SF+NNUE has a lot of modification considering the real Stockfish-dev. These can be deleted but it is rather time consuming thing. I think on CCC the real sf-dev is playing.
Note
Old Stockfish-dev is not so weak as it seems from SF+NNUE against old Stockfish-dev matches
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by Stockfish-dev. The last version of Stockfish before NNUE was merged can be gotten here:

https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... 32877c47a7

Click the green Code button and then Download ZIP.

Is that what you want?
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:25 pm ...
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by Stockfish-dev. The last version of Stockfish before NNUE was merged can be gotten here:
https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... 32877c47a7
Click the green Code button and then Download ZIP.
Is that what you want?
Thanks. This source really belongs to the last (20.07.31.), the old Stockfish-dev.
It lacks only the development from that date what are in the NNUE version.
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:01 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:25 pm ...
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by Stockfish-dev. The last version of Stockfish before NNUE was merged can be gotten here:
https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... 32877c47a7
Click the green Code button and then Download ZIP.
Is that what you want?
Thanks. This source really belongs to the last (20.07.31.), the old Stockfish-dev.
It lacks only the development from that date what are in the NNUE version.
There is no such thing as an official Stockfish-dev that does not include the NNUE version yet is up to date.
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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syzygy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:01 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:25 pm ...
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by Stockfish-dev. The last version of Stockfish before NNUE was merged can be gotten here:
https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... 32877c47a7
Click the green Code button and then Download ZIP.
Is that what you want?
Thanks. This source really belongs to the last (20.07.31.), the old Stockfish-dev.
It lacks only the development from that date what are in the NNUE version.
There is no such thing as an official Stockfish-dev that does not include the NNUE version yet is up to date.
On CCC Stockfish Classic plays (updated 16.08.2020.), authors are the old ones without Japanese contributors. The speed of Classic is ~50 % higher than SF+NNUE with classic eval.
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Re: Where we can find Stockfish-dev (default)

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corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:36 pm
syzygy wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:06 pm
corres wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:01 pm
zullil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:25 pm ...
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by Stockfish-dev. The last version of Stockfish before NNUE was merged can be gotten here:
https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... 32877c47a7
Click the green Code button and then Download ZIP.
Is that what you want?
Thanks. This source really belongs to the last (20.07.31.), the old Stockfish-dev.
It lacks only the development from that date what are in the NNUE version.
There is no such thing as an official Stockfish-dev that does not include the NNUE version yet is up to date.
On CCC Stockfish Classic plays (updated 16.08.2020.), authors are the old ones without Japanese contributors. The speed of Classic is ~50 % higher than SF+NNUE with classic eval.
You will need to contact CCC and ask them what they compiled to produce that binary.

Be aware that the name a Stockfish binary gives itself reflects the date that it was compiled.

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/// engine_info() returns the full name of the current Stockfish version. This
/// will be either "Stockfish <Tag> DD-MM-YY" (where DD-MM-YY is the date when
/// the program was compiled) or "Stockfish <Version>", depending on whether
/// Version is empty.