Drawmaster Stockfish
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Eraserheads
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Drawmaster Stockfish
Is the idea of developing a 'Drawmaster' engine worthwhile? For me, it is, and I hope to see it someday. With every other engine trying to find the best move in the position, it's going to be interesting to have a stupendously strong engine such as Stockfish trying to veer positions to drier, boring setups, with the sole intent of trading everything off and coming out with a score close to 0.0 as possible. If it is winning, it would throw the game away just so the opponent will have a chance to draw. It also must probably have almost 0 contempt and will treat each game with an almost Petrosian-like prophylactic tendency, a Lekonian solidity and a Anderssonesque liking for endgames.
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Tord
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Re: Drawmaster Stockfish
You don't need a custom engine for that. Just use any UCI engine, put it in MultiPV mode, and pick the move with evaluation closest to 0 rather than the best move.
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Rowen
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Re: Drawmaster Stockfish
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Is the idea of developing a 'Drawmaster' engine worthwhile? For me, it is, and I hope to see it someday. With every other engine trying to find the best move in the position, it's going to be interesting to have a stupendously strong engine such as Stockfish trying to veer positions to drier, boring setups, with the sole intent of trading everything off and coming out with a score close to 0.0 as possible. If it is winning, it would throw the game away just so the opponent will have a chance to draw. It also must probably have almost 0 contempt and will treat each game with an almost Petrosian-like prophylactic tendency, a Lekonian solidity and a Anderssonesque liking for endgames.
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Lucas chess seems to have this. Strength limitations can be imposed against engines before games, the settings are 'similar to the player' , 'somewhat better' etc etc. This relates to the engines evaluation and the move it selects (I think).Probably uses MultiPV.
I sometimes use it to ensure a long .close, game where I get to practice my endgame.And yes if I select the engine evaluation to be somewhat better it usually wins but it takes many moves.
Would be good if more GUI s or engine incorporated this idea, perhaps a player could specify an evaluation that the engine wouldnt exceed for its move etc or you could look at the engines evaluation and pick a move ',Lucas chess also has that option.
Is the idea of developing a 'Drawmaster' engine worthwhile? For me, it is, and I hope to see it someday. With every other engine trying to find the best move in the position, it's going to be interesting to have a stupendously strong engine such as Stockfish trying to veer positions to drier, boring setups, with the sole intent of trading everything off and coming out with a score close to 0.0 as possible. If it is winning, it would throw the game away just so the opponent will have a chance to draw. It also must probably have almost 0 contempt and will treat each game with an almost Petrosian-like prophylactic tendency, a Lekonian solidity and a Anderssonesque liking for endgames.
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Lucas chess seems to have this. Strength limitations can be imposed against engines before games, the settings are 'similar to the player' , 'somewhat better' etc etc. This relates to the engines evaluation and the move it selects (I think).Probably uses MultiPV.
I sometimes use it to ensure a long .close, game where I get to practice my endgame.And yes if I select the engine evaluation to be somewhat better it usually wins but it takes many moves.
Would be good if more GUI s or engine incorporated this idea, perhaps a player could specify an evaluation that the engine wouldnt exceed for its move etc or you could look at the engines evaluation and pick a move ',Lucas chess also has that option.