Lc0 against SF14 one core

[Jouni]

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1   Stockfish 14        +63  +18/=82/-0 59.00%   59.0/100
2   Lc0 v0.27.0 69626   -63  +0/=82/-18 41.00%   41.0/100

1m + 1s and 8 moves book from SF framework.

Lc0 runs in GTX card with 2 knps and SF with 2 mnps. I am sure, that even with latest RTX card Lc0 has no chance vs SF multicore. You simply need A100 or V100 and still lose like in CCC and TCEC!

[yurikvelo]

SF gained 200+ Elo since NNUE introduction.
Leela kinda reached its ceiling.

Before NNUE, it was guesstimate who will win: HCE A/B or NN.
Now 200 elo frog leap leaves no chance to GPU computing.

[Modern Times]

Now 200 elo frog leap leaves no chance to GPU computing.

For now. A new advance in GPU technology could tip the balance again ?

[yurikvelo]

For now. A new advance in GPU technology could tip the balance again ?

Speed-up Leela development? Or speed-up nps for end-user of existing Leela networks?

Even if something extraordinary happen to nVidia and computational power of [4 x V100] will be available for consumer grade (something like single RTX 3090 with TDP=400W with power of 4 x V100) it will not cover already existing 200 elo gap.

[Jouni]

In M.Y. big tournament SFdev 1 core was better than Lc0 RTX 2080TI. 1 cpu core beats 4352 cude cores + 2 cpu cores . Is there any sense to continue Lc0 development?

[mehmet123]

In M.Y. big tournament SFdev 1 core was better than Lc0 RTX 2080TI. 1 cpu core beats 4352 cude cores + 2 cpu cores . Is there any sense to continue Lc0 development?

It's only valid for fast games. Lc0 with 3060Tİ is stronger than Stockfish 13 with 8 cpu at long time control matches.


THE SSDF RATING LIST 2021-07-28
Rating + - Games Won Oppo
------ --- --- ----- --- ----
1 Lc0 0.26.3 Cuda(67362) 3060Ti 3581 41 -39 320 64% 3479
2 Stockfish 13 x64 1800X 3.6 GHz 3573 44 -40 320 70% 3428
3 Stockfish 12 NNUE x64 1800X 3.6 GHz 3568 32 -30 520 64% 3468
4 Dragon by Komodo x64 1800X 3.6 GHz 3557 34 -32 460 63% 3457

[Jouni]

No. They used different books! So it was 40 games "book test" and ended 20-20. Serious testing only by using common book.

[Rebel]

http://rebel13.nl/history.html#6

I got +53 for Lc0 v28