I do not know how some people get rated over 2200 on Lichess ?

[Chessqueen]

I played versus this person on Lichess and to me he is not even close to 2100, I go under ChessLearner 1979 since I got my online trainer once in a while I test myself against players on Lichess that are close to what my trainer recommend me to play against to advance to have a feeling of my progress. My online trainer never told me to play against any player rated over 2200, but I was online today on Lichess and he challenge me. He is not even close to being 2279 no way. TC game in 10 minutes

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jownathan"]
[Black "ChessLearner 1979"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[ECO "C01"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2279"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d3 Nf6 6. d4 d5 7. Bd3 Bd6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Bg5 Bg4 10. h3 Bh5 11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. c3 c5 13. dxc5 Nxc5 14. Bc2
Ne6 15. Be3 Re8 16. Qb1 Nf4 17. Re1 Qc7 18. Nd4 h6 19. Nb5 Nxh3+ 20. gxh3
Bh2+ 21. Kg2 Qe5 22. Bxh6 Ne4 23. Nxe4 dxe4 24. Rxe4 Qxb5 25. Rxe8+ Rxe8
26. Kxh2 Qe5+ 27. Kg1 gxh6 28. Qc1 Qf6 29. Qd2 Re2 30. Qd3 Qxf2+[/pgn]

[lkaufman]

I played versus this person on Lichess and to me he is not even close to 2100, I go under ChessLearner 1979 since I got my online trainer once in a while I test myself against players on Lichess that are close to what my trainer recommend me to play against to advance to have a feeling of my progress. My online trainer never told me to play against any player rated over 2200, but I was online today on Lichess and he challenge me. He is not even close to being 2279 no way. TC game in 10 minutes

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jownathan"]
[Black "ChessLearner 1979"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[ECO "C01"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2279"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d3 Nf6 6. d4 d5 7. Bd3 Bd6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Bg5 Bg4 10. h3 Bh5 11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. c3 c5 13. dxc5 Nxc5 14. Bc2
Ne6 15. Be3 Re8 16. Qb1 Nf4 17. Re1 Qc7 18. Nd4 h6 19. Nb5 Nxh3+ 20. gxh3
Bh2+ 21. Kg2 Qe5 22. Bxh6 Ne4 23. Nxe4 dxe4 24. Rxe4 Qxb5 25. Rxe8+ Rxe8
26. Kxh2 Qe5+ 27. Kg1 gxh6 28. Qc1 Qf6 29. Qd2 Re2 30. Qd3 Qxf2+[/pgn]

According to this site: https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/: a FIDE rating of 1950 (your estimate for yourself) should be about 2100 on lichess Rapid rating. So if you play at least 20 games there (Rapid) and still have at least 2100, you can consider your 1950 estimate confirmed.

[Cornfed]

That website looks about right. Lets not forget though that online chess is just 'fun'...people do not normally take it nearly as seriously as OTB and why should they?

I haven't played at lichess in 6 mo but stopped at 2182 and ascending. 2258 Classical.

I do tend to think blitz ratings are UNDER RATED on ICC though. I think we can chalk that up to inbreeding though...

[Chessqueen]

I played versus this person on Lichess and to me he is not even close to 2100, I go under ChessLearner 1979 since I got my online trainer once in a while I test myself against players on Lichess that are close to what my trainer recommend me to play against to advance to have a feeling of my progress. My online trainer never told me to play against any player rated over 2200, but I was online today on Lichess and he challenge me. He is not even close to being 2279 no way. TC game in 10 minutes

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Jownathan"]
[Black "ChessLearner 1979"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[ECO "C01"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2279"]
[Termination "normal"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d3 Nf6 6. d4 d5 7. Bd3 Bd6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Bg5 Bg4 10. h3 Bh5 11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. c3 c5 13. dxc5 Nxc5 14. Bc2
Ne6 15. Be3 Re8 16. Qb1 Nf4 17. Re1 Qc7 18. Nd4 h6 19. Nb5 Nxh3+ 20. gxh3
Bh2+ 21. Kg2 Qe5 22. Bxh6 Ne4 23. Nxe4 dxe4 24. Rxe4 Qxb5 25. Rxe8+ Rxe8
26. Kxh2 Qe5+ 27. Kg1 gxh6 28. Qc1 Qf6 29. Qd2 Re2 30. Qd3 Qxf2+[/pgn]

According to this site: https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/: a FIDE rating of 1950 (your estimate for yourself) should be about 2100 on lichess Rapid rating. So if you play at least 20 games there (Rapid) and still have at least 2100, you can consider your 1950 estimate confirmed.

This was the rematch game

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "2"]
[White "ChessLearner 1979 "]
[Black "Jownathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2260"]
[ECO "C49"]
[Opening "Four Knights"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2019"]
[Termination "normal"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bb4 5. Nd5 Bc5 6. O-O O-O 7. Nxf6+
Qxf6 8. c3 d6 9. d4 Bb6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. Kh1 exd4 12. cxd4 Bxf3 13. Qxf3
Qxf3 14. gxf3 Bxd4 15. Bxc6 Bxe3 16. Bxb7 Rab8 17. fxe3 Rxb7 18. Rf2 Rfb8
19. b3 Kf8 20. Rc2 Ke7 21. Rg1 g6 22. Rg5 Kd7 23. Ra5 c5 24. Kg2 Rc8 25.
Rd2 Rcc7 26. e5 Rb6 27. Kg3 h6 28. Rd5 Ke6 29. exd6 Kxd5 30. dxc7 Rc6 31.
Rxa7 f5 32. a4 c4 33. Ra5+ Kd6 34. Ra6 Kxc7 35. Rxc6+ Kxc6 36. bxc4 Kc5 37.
Kf4 Kxc4 38. a5 Kb5 39. Ke5 Kxa5 40. Kf6 *[/pgn]

[Marek Soszynski]

Lets not forget though that online chess is just 'fun'...people do not normally take it nearly as seriously as OTB and why should they?

Online ratings may vary greatly. Some people, in the comfort of their own homes, may play under the influence of too much alcohol or too little caffeine, or all sorts of domestic distractions. Some sessions may last for hours with players on autopilot playing way past their bedtimes, with dwindling fortunes, like gamblers chasing a win. At other times these same players may be fresh and alert and serious. Some people like to experiment with dubious or unfamiliar openings before returning to their more successful repertoires that will see their ratings rise. And so on.

In my own bullet profile the difference from highest rating to lowest is 435, which is nothing to do with genuine chessplaying improvement/deterioration. So a glance at my rating at any one time could mislead you.

[Rowen]

I played versus this person on Lichess and to me he is not even close to 2100, I go under ChessLearner 1979 since I got my online trainer once in a while I test myself against players on Lichess that are close to what my trainer recommend me to play against to advance to have a feeling of my progress. My online trainer never told me to play against any player rated over 2200, but I was online today on Lichess and he challenge me. He is not even close to being 2279 no way. TC game in 10 minutes

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jownathan"]
[Black "ChessLearner 1979"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[ECO "C01"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2279"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d3 Nf6 6. d4 d5 7. Bd3 Bd6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Bg5 Bg4 10. h3 Bh5 11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. c3 c5 13. dxc5 Nxc5 14. Bc2
Ne6 15. Be3 Re8 16. Qb1 Nf4 17. Re1 Qc7 18. Nd4 h6 19. Nb5 Nxh3+ 20. gxh3
Bh2+ 21. Kg2 Qe5 22. Bxh6 Ne4 23. Nxe4 dxe4 24. Rxe4 Qxb5 25. Rxe8+ Rxe8
26. Kxh2 Qe5+ 27. Kg1 gxh6 28. Qc1 Qf6 29. Qd2 Re2 30. Qd3 Qxf2+[/pgn]

Your opponents lichess rating is based on over 4800 rapid games so is accurate using Lichess rating calculations, it may not be comparable to other data pools but so what?

I also would not come to firm conclusions about an opponents playing ability based upon, what was it, 2 games. We can all play hughly above or below our 'average' performance. I have seen GMS make beginners mistakes.

[Jhoravi]

Lichess rating is more than 100 elo higher than Chess.com. My Lichess is 2300+ while my chess.com is 2100+ Therefore blitz rating of a particular website is only comparable to players of that same site.

[Chessqueen]

Lichess rating is more than 100 elo higher than Chess.com. My Lichess is 2300+ while my chess.com is 2100+ Therefore blitz rating of a particular website is only comparable to players of that same site.

No wonder why I already reached 2280 after I played 6 more more opponents but players at that level are giving me a real challenge as you can tell in the rematch game that I posted. I believe that I will be stuck at this level for at least another 3 months since the lessons with my online trainer stopped since he is hospitalized and need time to recover. I still consider Lichess to be overrated by 150 points compared to Fide Blitz rating.

This was the rematch game

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "2"]
[White "ChessLearner 1979 "]
[Black "Jownathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2260"]
[ECO "C49"]
[Opening "Four Knights"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2280"]
[Termination "normal"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bb4 5. Nd5 Bc5 6. O-O O-O 7. Nxf6+
Qxf6 8. c3 d6 9. d4 Bb6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. Kh1 exd4 12. cxd4 Bxf3 13. Qxf3
Qxf3 14. gxf3 Bxd4 15. Bxc6 Bxe3 16. Bxb7 Rab8 17. fxe3 Rxb7 18. Rf2 Rfb8
19. b3 Kf8 20. Rc2 Ke7 21. Rg1 g6 22. Rg5 Kd7 23. Ra5 c5 24. Kg2 Rc8 25.
Rd2 Rcc7 26. e5 Rb6 27. Kg3 h6 28. Rd5 Ke6 29. exd6 Kxd5 30. dxc7 Rc6 31.
Rxa7 f5 32. a4 c4 33. Ra5+ Kd6 34. Ra6 Kxc7 35. Rxc6+ Kxc6 36. bxc4 Kc5 37.
Kf4 Kxc4 38. a5 Kb5 39. Ke5 Kxa5 40. Kf6 *
[/quote][/pgn]

[Guenther]

I played versus this person on Lichess and to me he is not even close to 2100, I go under ChessLearner 1979 since I got my online trainer once in a while I test myself against players on Lichess that are close to what my trainer recommend me to play against to advance to have a feeling of my progress. My online trainer never told me to play against any player rated over 2200, but I was online today on Lichess and he challenge me. He is not even close to being 2279 no way. TC game in 10 minutes

[pgn][Event "Lichess"]
[Date "2021.09.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jownathan"]
[Black "ChessLearner 1979"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[ECO "C01"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "07:14:25"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nf6"]
[WhiteElo "2279"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "62"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. d3 Nf6 6. d4 d5 7. Bd3 Bd6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Bg5 Bg4 10. h3 Bh5 11. Nbd2 Nbd7 12. c3 c5 13. dxc5 Nxc5 14. Bc2
Ne6 15. Be3 Re8 16. Qb1 Nf4 17. Re1 Qc7 18. Nd4 h6 19. Nb5 Nxh3+ 20. gxh3
Bh2+ 21. Kg2 Qe5 22. Bxh6 Ne4 23. Nxe4 dxe4 24. Rxe4 Qxb5 25. Rxe8+ Rxe8
26. Kxh2 Qe5+ 27. Kg1 gxh6 28. Qc1 Qf6 29. Qd2 Re2 30. Qd3 Qxf2+[/pgn]

As expected your account was now terminated due to cheating (as you did in some of your bragging games with odds)
https://lichess.org/@/ChessLearner1979/all

And no I did not report you - some other people were faster ;)

[Vernon Crawford]

As expected your account was now terminated due to cheating (as you did in some of your bragging games with odds)
https://lichess.org/@/ChessLearner1979/all

And no I did not report you - some other people were faster

You know for a fact that the account was terminated due to cheating?
Awfully hurtful thing to post, especially without evidence.

Termination can also be other factors too... violating anything in the TOS is just cause.
Being rude, for example.

Look at the games using Lichess analysis...in almost every game ChessLearner1979 blunders badly (according to SF 14)

for ex:
https://ibb.co/2P1xLYn

19. ... Qd7 is best
but black chooses the very weak & speculative attack 19. ...Nxh3+ and the score jumps from +0.3 to +4.1 in white's favor
(is there any engine that would recommend this line of play?)

He can always appeal, false positives do happen and the account will be restored.