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CaffeinatedPawn questions

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1. How do I run it under Windows?
2. What strength shall I expect?
3. Have you abandoned Embla and Micah for good?
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Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:53 pm 1. How do I run it under Windows?
2. What strength shall I expect?
3. Have you abandoned Embla and Micah for good?
1. you need java for that. then you need to invoke something like:
java -cp CaffeinatedPawn-<code>.jar;chesslib-1.3.2.jar com.vanheusden.CaffeinatedPawn.CaffeinatedPawn
Can't verify as I don't have windows.

2. according to the cutechess results at home (which were different from the one forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=909955 thread) 1775.3 elo

3. nah. while working on caffeinatedpawn I found some possible issues in embla/micah and I might fix & test those. but don't hold your breath.
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Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:53 pm 1. How do I run it under Windows?
2. What strength shall I expect?
Previous version was around 1750, I'm testing right now the new one.
If you need them, I made Windows executables for all versions.

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Brunetti wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:44 pm
Gabor Szots wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:53 pm 1. How do I run it under Windows?
2. What strength shall I expect?
Previous version was around 1750, I'm testing right now the new one.
If you need them, I made Windows executables for all versions.

Alex
Thanks for testing.
I'm puzzled why it plays worse in a real testing setup and not in mine.
How can I make sure I've got the same testing conditions?
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Re: CaffeinatedPawn questions

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flok wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:19 pm I'm puzzled why it plays worse in a real testing setup and not in mine.
How can I make sure I've got the same testing conditions?
To have the same results we should play the same opponents pool at the same conditions. And the CPU? And what about the opening books? Is yours more drawish or more unbalanced than mine? But most important, the two rating scales how are anchored each other?

I call cutechess with the following parameters:

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@cutechess-cli -engine conf="engine1" -engine conf="engine2" -each tc=60+1 option.Threads=1 option."Max CPUs"=1 option."Max Threads"=1 option."Max threads"=1 option.Hash=256 -pgnout "file" -site "Intel i7-3770@3.40GHz" -event "event" -openings file="file" order="random" -recover -srand 6730291 -draw movenumber=30 movecount=12 score=15 -resign movecount=12 score=600 twosided=true
My anchor is Spike 1.2 Turin, an old, solid and stable engine, 2731 (same of CCRL blitz).

The opponents pool is another question: I don't play gauntlets with a few opponents and an high number of games. My approach is to play a Swiss-like tournament with a few games vs. many opponents. I found this system to be more efficient, I get quite accurate (whatever it means) and stable ratings with far less games than the standard big gauntlets way. These are the results of the last CP:

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Results of CaffeinatedPawn 0346f64 64-bit
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Rank  Elo  Engine                                        Score   Games   Wins  Draws Losses
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   1. 2221 Hagrid 0.7.47                                     0%      1      0      0      1                  
   2. 2217 Feuerstein 0.4.6.1                                0%      2      0      0      2                  
   3. 2211 FireFly 2.7.0 64-bit                              0%      1      0      0      1                  
   4. 2204 Kurt 0.9.2.2 beta 64-bit                          0%      1      0      0      1                  
   5. 2196 Blitzkrieg 1.0 rev337 64-bit                      0%      1      0      0      1                  
   6. 2191 DrunkenMaster 1.2                                 0%      1      0      0      1                  
   7. 2185 BlackBishop 1.0u                                  0%      1      0      0      1                  
   8. 2177 Embla 2.07 64-bit                                 0%      1      0      0      1                  
   9. 2071 Bad Chess Engine 0.4.4-ucifix 64-bit              0%      1      0      0      1                  
  10. 2032 Etude 0.11                                        0%      1      0      0      1                  
  11. 2031 Celes 0.78 RWBC                                 100%      1      1      0      0                  
  12. 2028 Goldfish 1.13.0 64-bit                            0%      1      0      0      1                  
  13. 2021 Asterisk 0.4b                                     0%      2      0      0      2                  
  14. 2018 CPW-Engine build 05-09-08                         0%      2      0      0      2                  
  15. 2006 Rival 1.18                                       25%      2      0      1      1                  
  16. 2001 Taktix 2.23x                                      0%      2      0      0      2                  
  17. 2000 Skiull 0.5 64-bit                                25%      2      0      1      1                  
  18. 1995 ALChess 1.84                                     25%      2      0      1      1                  
  19. 1991 Presbyter 1.3.0 64-bit                           50%      2      1      0      1                  
  20. 1990 Big Lion 2.23x                                   50%      2      1      0      1                  
  21. 1988 Sissa 2.0.0.0                                     0%      2      0      0      2                  
  22. 1982 Pleco 0.1.6 64-bit                               33%      3      1      0      2                  
  23. 1981 Jabba 13032012                                   33%      3      1      0      2                  
  24. 1980 Hopper 1.3 64-bit                                25%      2      0      1      1                  
  25. 1979 SoFCheck alpha 20210918 64-bit                   50%      3      1      1      1                  
  26. 1970 Claudia 0.51 64-bit                               0%      3      0      0      3                  
  27. 1969 Dumber 1.1 64-bit                                17%      3      0      1      2                  
  28. 1966 Gunborg 1.0 64-bit                                0%      3      0      0      3                  
  29. 1963 Weiawaga 1.3 64-bit                              33%      3      0      2      1                  
  30. 1957 Hopper 1.2 64-bit                                 0%      3      0      0      3                  
  31. 1940 Lila 3.0.1 64-bit                                 0%      3      0      0      3                  
  32. 1927 FreeChess 2.17b                                  50%      4      2      0      2                  
  33. 1927 Roce 0.039                                       25%      4      1      0      3                  
  34. 1924 Odonata 0.3.26 64-bit                            38%      4      1      1      2                  
  35. 1915 Clueless 1.4                                     25%      4      1      0      3                  
  36. 1910 Rustic Alpha 3.0.0 64-bit                        25%      4      1      0      3                  
  37. 1904 Deep Chess r113 64-bit                           25%      4      1      0      3                  
  38. 1902 Minace 1.0                                       13%      4      0      1      3                  
  39. 1900 Snowy 0.1 64-bit                                 25%      4      1      0      3                  
  40. 1896 GearHeart 0.16 TP 64-bit                         38%      4      1      1      2                  
  41. 1894 CDrill 1800 Build 4                              38%      4      1      1      2                  
  42. 1893 Deepov 0.4 64-bit                                50%      4      2      0      2                  
  43. 1890 Predateur2.2.1                                    0%      4      0      0      4                  
  44. 1888 HeavyChess 0.13 beta                             13%      4      0      1      3                  
  45. 1884 Heracles 0.5.9                                   25%      4      0      2      2                  
  46. 1882 Chareth 2020-06-28 64-bit                        20%      5      0      2      3                  
  47. 1881 Sayuri 2018-05-23 64-bit                         13%      4      0      1      3                  
  48. 1877 Ziggy 0.7 64-bit                                 25%      4      1      0      3                  
  49. 1867 Hopper 20211004 64-bit                           10%      5      0      1      4                  
  50. 1862 Pigeon 1.5.1 64-bit                              40%      5      1      2      2                  
  51. 1858 Apollo 1.2.1 64-bit                              20%      5      1      0      4                  
  52. 1853 Zurichess Appenzeller 64-bit                     50%      5      2      1      2                  
  53. 1836 Silke Chess 1.2.1209                             50%      5      2      1      2                  
  54. 1823 BeRoChess 1.00.2012.04.10.0112 64-bit            17%      6      0      2      4                  
  55. 1814 Hopper 20211003 64-bit                           58%      6      3      1      2                  
  56. 1794 Hedwig rev25 64-bit                              25%      6      1      1      4                  
  57. 1785 RumbleMinze 1.0.33 64-bit                         0%      7      0      0      7                  
  58. 1778 Rocinante 2.0 64-bit                             43%      7      3      0      4                  
  59. 1776 Celestial 1.0 64-bit                             43%      7      3      0      4                  
  60. 1776 Vapor 0.01r12 64-bit                             43%      7      2      2      3                  
  61. 1774 Testina 3c                                       29%      7      0      4      3                  
  62. 1764 CaffeinatedPawn 95458ab 64-bit                   57%      7      3      2      2                  
  63. 1760 CaffeinatedPawn 6d214df 64-bit                   50%      7      2      3      2                  
  64. 1759 RapChessCs 2021-07-22 64-bit                     43%      7      3      0      4                  
  65. 1753 Shallow Blue 2.0.0 64-bit                        57%      7      3      2      2                  
  66. 1740 Small-C 90.3                                     31%      8      2      1      5                  
  67. 1740 Pwned 1.3 64-bit                                 43%      7      3      0      4                  
  68. 1712 Crabby 1.00 64-bit                               88%      8      7      0      1                  
  69. 1706 FracTal 1.0 64-bit                               50%      7      2      3      2                  
  70. 1700 CaSpEr rev4 64-bit                               50%      7      3      1      3                  
  71. 1699 Walleye 1.5.0 64-bit                             43%      7      2      2      3                  
  72. 1670 Walleye 1.4 64-bit                               50%      7      1      5      1                  
  73. 1668 Chancellor 1.00d                                 50%      7      3      1      3                  
  74. 1656 ArcBishop 1.00d                                  75%      6      4      1      1                  
  75. 1634 Cicada 0.1 64-bit                                50%      6      2      2      2                  
  76. 1629 Pigeon 1.37 64-bit                               50%      6      2      2      2                  
  77. 1624 Pulse 1.7.2 64-bit                               58%      6      2      3      1                  
  78. 1596 Koedem 1.1 64-bit                               100%      5      5      0      0                  
  79. 1591 Conqueror 1.2                                    70%      5      3      1      1                  
  80. 1588 CaffeinatedPawn 54311af 64-bit                   80%      5      4      0      1                  
  81. 1584 Marginal 0.1.051                                 60%      5      3      0      2                  
  82. 1581 SebLague Chess-AI 0.1 .Net5                      70%      5      3      1      1                  
  83. 1562 Blank 1.0 64-bit                                 75%      4      2      2      0                  
  84. 1557 ChessEngine (SeminarEngine) 0.1-alpha 64-bit     75%      4      2      2      0                  
  85. 1557 DoctorB 1.2.1 64-bit                             75%      4      3      0      1                  
  86. 1553 Piranha 0.5                                     100%      4      4      0      0                  
  87. 1528 Jacky Chess 0.9.14 64-bit                        88%      4      3      1      0                  
  88. 1525 Irina 0.15                                       75%      4      3      0      1                  
  89. 1504 Superpawn build 110 64-bit                      100%      3      3      0      0                  
  90. 1485 Walleye 1.3.0 64-bit                            100%      3      3      0      0                  
  91. 1472 Quokka 2.1 64-bit                               100%      3      3      0      0                  
  92. 1458 Madlenka 2015.02.13 DC 64-bit                    75%      2      1      1      0                  
  93. 1457 Lynx 5.2 64-bit                                 100%      2      2      0      0                  
  94. 1451 Lynx 5.3 64-bit                                  50%      2      1      0      1                  
  95. 1447 Lynx 6.0 64-bit                                 100%      2      2      0      0                  
  96. 1444 Hactar 0.9.0 64-bit                             100%      2      2      0      0                  
  97. 1443 Eden 0.0.13                                     100%      2      2      0      0                  
  98. 1438 Lynx 5.1 64-bit                                 100%      2      2      0      0                  
  99. 1421 Endamat 20210217 64-bit                          75%      2      1      1      0                  
Alex