TOP Attacker is "Revenge" ... amazing stats!

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

I start with statistics to TOP-41 engines.

The stats for "Revenge" for the topic I like most ...
after 6 out of 50 rounds (still running FCP Tourney-2020) are amazing.

Move average only 83 (games without resign mode).
After 240 games ... 86x won and here ... 17 times with mate until move 60!
No game until move 60 lost.
Fast draw stats for a move average from 83 only are fantastic.

RubiChess comes also with much better statistics as I await.

....

Unfortunately ...
In 10.5 months the Elo average from TOP-41 is +100
In this time the draw quote goes high from 48,9% to 52,5%
Clearly lesser fast won games.
Clearly higher move average ... from 87 to 88,5 (without resign mode)

....

But Revenge rocks ...
Fabio Gobatto ... or Fabio Engine GOD ... the first two letters from his last name.
OK, the programmer comes from Italy, same country the Vatican ...

Thinking loud ...
Enough!

Best
Frank

For 6 rounds only I can looking so far!

[Frank Quisinsky]

The reason for such an high move avereage is Demolito and DarkToga.
Engines like to fight and never gives games to fast draw (very high move average).
And the move average for TOP-41 goes clearly higher as I await.

But Revenge and RubiChess ...
The complete night I am replaying the games ...
Often I understand nothing what the engines like to play (over 3200 Elo), but it seems ... a great work by the programmers and it looks fantastic.
A big room for interesting analzyses!!

Enough chess for today, the day started and I am K.O.

[Frank Quisinsky]

https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_replay-zone.htm

The URL to the "Miniatures" from FCP Tourney-2022.
A lot of interesting material ... 1:20 hour per game, on 4.4Ghz!

A link to the statistic file for the miniatures and to for the *.pgn file is inlcuded.

Have fun!

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Have a look in the miniature Revenge vs. Koivisto ... game 259!
But so many other very nice games can be found here ...

Link will be updated round-by-round!

[Eelco de Groot]

In case people have trouble finding game 259, but would like to see it, I think probably it was this one?


[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 20 min"]
[Site "fcp-tourney-2022, FQ-3"]
[Date "2021.11.25"]
[Round "7.37"]
[White "Revenge 1.0 NN x64"]
[Black "Koivisto 7.5 NN AVX2 x64"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A48"]
[Opening "King's Indian: Torre attack"]

1. d4 { book 0s } 1... Nf6 { book 0s } 2. Nf3 { book 0s } 2... g6 { book 0s }
3. Bg5 { book 0s } 3... Bg7 { book 0s } 4. Nbd2 { book 0s } 4... h6 { book 0s }
5. Bh4 { book 0s } 5... d6 { book 0s } 6. c3 { book 0s } 6... g5 { book 0s }
7. Bg3 { book 0s } 7... Nh5 { book 0s } 8. e4 { +0.38/28 45s } 8... c5 {
+0.67/30 30s } 9. d5 { +0.45/31 32s } 9... O-O { +0.63/31 26s (Nd7) } 10. Bc4 {
+0.48/30 32s } 10... Qb6 { +0.71/32 32s (Nd7) } 11. Bb3 { +1.05/30 34s }
11... Nd7 { +0.72/33 30s } 12. a4 { +0.96/31 43s } 12... Qc7 { +1.06/32 23s }
13. Nc4 { +1.20/31 1:33m } 13... b6 { +0.86/32 29s (Nxg3) } 14. Ne3 { +1.47/30
1:31m } 14... Ndf6 { +0.88/33 33s (Rb8) } 15. e5 { +0.74/32 1:13m } 15... Ng4 {
+0.28/32 26s } 16. Nxg5 { +0.93/33 56s } 16... Nxe3 { +0.75/33 37s } 17. fxe3 {
+0.86/35 1:39m } 17... Nxg3 { +0.51/35 31s } 18. hxg3 { +0.74/33 25s }
18... hxg5 { +0.45/35 28s } 19. Bc2 { +0.49/32 33s } 19... f5 { +0.48/35 25s }
20. e6 { +0.68/32 20s } 20... g4 { +0.57/35 22s (Bxe6) } 21. Qd2 { +1.82/27 19s
} 21... b5 { +0.66/29 1:27m } 22. Rh5 { +2.39/28 56s } 22... Rf6 { +1.57/29
1:50m (c4) } 23. e4 { +3.55/28 23s } 23... Bxe6 { +2.32/27 1:38m (b4) } 24. dxe6
{ +5.39/28 1:17m } 24... bxa4 { +2.25/28 53s (d5) } 25. exf5 { +6.13/30 1:01m }
25... d5 { +2.59/29 18s } 26. O-O-O { +7.36/29 58s } 26... a3 { +5.10/25 41s
(Qe5) } 27. bxa3 { +8.40/29 48s } 27... Qa5 { +7.47/25 1:03m } 28. Rdh1 {
+8.97/32 39s } 28... Qxa3+ { +7.34/24 17s } 29. Kd1 { +9.07/29 32s } 29... Qa1+
{ +8.66/27 40s } 30. Ke2 { +10.97/28 25s } 30... Qxh1 { +10.80/26 42s (Qa6+) }
31. Rxh1 { +16.08/24 8s } 31... Rb8 { +12.63/25 34s (Rc8) } 32. Qg5 { +M20/25 4s
} 32... Rb2 { +20.48/25 23s } 33. Rh4 { +M13/34 4s } 33... Rxc2+ { +M19/26 36s }
34. Kd1 { +M12/36 15s } 34... Rb2 { +M11/45 15s } 35. Rxg4 { +M11/35 6s }
35... Kf8 { +M10/46 15s } 36. Qxg7+ { +M10/39 3s } 36... Ke8 { +M10/1 0s }
37. Rh4 { +M9/42 3s } 37... Rb1+ { +M8/41 13s } 38. Kc2 { +M8/52 3s } 38... Kd8
{ +M7/43 20s } 39. Rh8+ { +M7/63 3s } 39... Rf8 { +M6/45 19s } 40. Rxf8+ {
+M6/87 3s } 40... Kc7 { +M6/1 0s } 41. Qxe7+ { +M5/127 1s } 41... Kb6 { +M4/58
19s } 42. Rb8+ { +M4/127 0s } 42... Ka6 { +M3/128 2s } 43. Kxb1 { +M3/127 0s }
43... d4 { +M2/117 1:35m } 44. Qb7+ { +M2/127 0s } 44... Ka5 { +M2/1 0s }
45. Qxa7# { +M1/127 0s } 1-0[/pgn]

This was the game with colours reversed I think.

[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 20 min"]
[Site "fcp-tourney-2022, FQ-3"]
[Date "2021.11.23"]
[Round "6.37"]
[White "Koivisto 7.5 NN AVX2 x64"]
[Black "Revenge 1.0 NN x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D25"]
[Opening "QGA: Janowsky-Larsen variation"]

1. d4 { book 0s } 1... d5 { book 0s } 2. Nf3 { book 0s } 2... Nf6 { book 0s }
3. c4 { book 0s } 3... dxc4 { book 0s } 4. e3 { book 0s } 4... Bg4 { book 0s }
5. h3 { book 0s } 5... Bh5 { book 0s } 6. g4 { book 0s } 6... Bg6 { book 0s }
7. Ne5 { book 0s } 7... e6 { book 0s } 8. Bg2 { +0.46/30 54s } 8... Nbd7 {
+0.17/28 44s } 9. Nxg6 { +0.06/30 31s } 9... hxg6 { +0.23/30 53s } 10. Qe2 {
+0.15/31 47s (Nd2) } 10... c5 { +0.12/28 41s } 11. O-O { +0.22/30 24s (Nc3) }
11... cxd4 { 0.00/31 29s } 12. exd4 { +0.08/32 57s } 12... Bd6 { 0.00/33 34s }
13. d5 { +0.01/32 26s (Nd2) } 13... Nxd5 { -1.55/32 29s } 14. Bxd5 { -1.76/26
25s (Na3) } 14... Rxh3 { -3.75/32 27s } 15. Re1 { -2.68/31 1:33m (Bxe6) }
15... Qh4 { -5.29/32 27s } 16. Qxc4 { -2.82/32 23s (Qc2) } 16... Bc5 { -6.13/30
46s } 17. Qc2 { -6.36/31 1:14m } 17... Ke7 { -6.12/32 2:03m } 18. Be3 { -7.22/29
1:32m (Nc3) } 18... Bxe3 { -7.68/32 29s } 19. Rxe3 { -9.53/30 1:10m } 19... Rxe3
{ -7.90/34 36s } 20. Nc3 { -9.91/31 24s } 20... Rh3 { -8.01/35 1:33m } 21. Qe4 {
-10.97/28 35s (Re1) } 21... Rh8 { -10.31/27 22s } 22. Bxb7 { -13.22/28 45s (Kf1)
} 22... Rh2 { -10.79/34 27s } 23. Nd1 { -14.77/31 26s } 23... Nc5 { -12.10/34
40s } 24. Qf3 { -14.93/33 16s } 24... Rh3 { -12.36/35 1:33m } 25. Qg2 {
-15.15/33 29s } 25... Nxb7 { -14.14/29 33s } 26. Kf1 { -15.28/29 27s } 26... Nc5
{ -13.95/28 1:16m } 27. Rc1 { -14.63/28 25s } 27... Nd3 { -14.91/27 15s }
28. Rc7+ { -18.56/25 38s } 28... Kf6 { -15.40/28 37s } 29. Rc4 { -21.19/29 39s }
29... Qg5 { -15.08/28 58s } 30. Rd4 { -27.44/26 1:03m (f4) } 30... Rh1+ {
-M13/27 17s } 31. Ke2 { -37.27/27 32s } 31... Re1+ { -M12/29 39s } 32. Kxd3 {
-36.76/25 9s } 32... Rxd1+ { -M11/28 37s } 33. Ke2 { -40.48/26 10s } 33... Rxd4
{ -M10/29 18s } 34. Qf3+ { -M8/34 12s } 34... Ke5 { -M9/29 5s } 35. Qe3+ {
-M7/35 11s (Qg3+) } 35... Qxe3+ { -M7/33 5s } 36. Kxe3 { -M6/37 13s } 36... Rh3+
{ -M6/37 6s } 37. f3 { -M5/42 13s } 37... g5 { -M5/118 5s } 38. Ke2 { -M4/46 17s
(b3) } 38... Kf4 { -M4/127 0s } 39. b3 { -M3/48 19s (Kf2) } 39... Rh2+ { -M3/127
0s } 40. Ke1 { -M2/48 27s } 40... Kxf3 { -M2/127 0s } 41. b4 { -M1/128 0s (a4) }
41... Rh1# { -M1/127 0s } 0-1[/pgn]

[peter]

This was the game with colours reversed I think.

Hi Eelco!
But openings differ, don't they regards

[Eelco de Groot]

Hi Peter! Yes, it seems so, but these were the only games between Koivisto and Revenge I could find in Frank's file, so I just posted them. Maybe that is how the tourney is structured by Frank? I have not yet really replayed them, With Black, the other game, it seems Revenge had a very quick advantage, I don't know if Koivisto simply blundered in the opening there?

[peter]

Yes, it seems so, but these were the only games between Koivisto and Revenge I could find in Frank's file, so I just posted them. Maybe that is how the tourney is structured by Frank? I have not yet really replayed them, With Black, the other game, it seems Revenge had a very quick advantage, I don't know if Koivisto simply blundered in the opening there?

Neither did I look at the games closer till now, just as for the 0-1, after 13.d5?! White had advantage and after 15.Re1? game was practically over already, so yes, Koivisto obviously blundered in opening regards

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there

at the moment after round 8 out of 50 are 296 short games played (1:0, 0:1, mate until move 60).

Very easy to find game 259 ...
Have a look on the pic ...

Please click over the board ... in the "menue of selection" or "drop-down menue" or "pop-up menue" (not sure what is the right English word).



All FEOBOS opening positions are checked with 1 minute and 6 cores by 10 engines.
I will search the position from game 259 ... but I am sure, not an opening blunder (book is to 99,9% free of blunders and to 99,9% well balanced) ...



That's the deal?!
Programmers can find easy mistakes in miniatures for that reason (FEOBOS opening book is free of blunders)!

Best
Frank

[peter]

All FEOBOS opening positions are checked with 1 minute and 6 cores by 10 engines.
I will search the position from game 259 ... but I am sure, not an opening blunder (book is to 99,9% free of blunders and to 99,9% well balanced) ...



That's the deal?!
Programmers can find easy mistakes in miniatures for that reason (FEOBOS opening book is free of blunders)!

No offence meant, Frank, opening as far as given in book was ok, even if not with best moves of both sides, but I'm sure that wasn't planned by you neither (to give pure main stream opening- positions).

I talked about Koivisto's dealing with the opening in 13th and especially in 15th move, otherwise I wouldn't have written about Koivisto's, but about your blunders (and I would never dare to do so)

BTW many thanks to be said once in a while again for the great tournaments of yours regards