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Rebel
Posts: 7476Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:49 am
Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.26 playing for the gambit rating list.
Games : 1800
Elo pool : 3466
You can follow the progress at -
http://rebel13.nl/a/grl.htm
An earlier run at 40/40 :
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No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.25 +407 =469 -124 *0 641.5 1000 64.2%
2 Stockfish_9 +39 =77 -84 *0 77.5 200 38.8%
3 Seer_2.4.0 +21 =105 -74 *0 73.5 200 36.8%
4 RubiChess_2.2 +23 =97 -80 *0 71.5 200 35.8%
5 Koivisto_6.0-sse2 +22 =97 -81 *0 70.5 200 35.2%
6 Berserk_6 +19 =93 -88 *0 65.5 200 32.8%
Total Games: 1000
White Wins: 260 (26.0%)
Black Wins: 271 (27.1%)
Draws: 469 (46.9%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)
Which put CSTAL on the fourth place on the GRL.
The top-10 :
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# PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) CFS(%) W D L D(%)
1 Stockfish_14.1 : 3708.9 14.2 2368.0 3000 79 58 1768 1200 32 40
2 Komodo-Dragon_2.5 : 3646.4 13.5 2332.5 3400 69 100 1492 1681 227 49
3 Lc0_v28 : 3580.7 16.3 591.5 1000 59 100 335 513 152 51
4 Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.25 : 3512.1 17.2 641.5 1000 64 51 407 469 124 47
5 Berserk_8 : 3511.8 16.5 893.0 1600 56 78 431 924 245 58
6 Koivisto_7.9 : 3500.5 18.3 1252.0 2400 52 83 607 1290 503 54
7 SlowChess_2.8 : 3484.8 12.2 1340.0 2600 52 61 627 1426 547 55
8 Ethereal_13.25-NNUE : 3452.8 8.5 2795.5 5800 48 55 1318 2955 1527 51
9 RubiChess_2.2 : 3407.1 7.6 2619.0 6200 42 67 1096 3046 2058 49
10 Seer_2.4.0 : 3402.2 23.4 878.0 1600 55 57 499 758 343 47
But now it's for real and against more engines and at 40/120.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
Graham Banks
Posts: 45256Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:52 amLocation: Auckland, NZ
Post by Graham Banks Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:11 am
Very nice.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
Rebel
Posts: 7476Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:55 am
That's a question for Chris and he hardly has access to the forum.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
Rebel
Posts: 7476Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:55 am
Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.26 : elo 3503
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Gambit Rating List
Running : Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.26
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games : 1800
Results from file cstal.pgn:
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games %
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1 Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.26 +493 =1022 -285 *0 1004.0 1800 55.8%
2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5 +80 =115 -5 *0 137.5 200 68.8%
3 Berserk 8 +32 =131 -37 *0 97.5 200 48.8%
4 SlowChess 2.8 +40 =110 -50 *0 95.0 200 47.5%
5 Koivisto 7.9 +30 =124 -46 *0 92.0 200 46.0%
6 Stockfish 10 +39 =100 -61 *0 89.0 200 44.5%
7 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE +26 =115 -59 *0 83.5 200 41.8%
8 RubiChess 2.2 +16 =118 -66 *0 75.0 200 37.5%
9 Igel 3.0.5 +12 =109 -79 *0 66.5 200 33.2%
10 Pedone 3.1 +10 =100 -90 *0 60.0 200 30.0%
Total Games: 1800
White Wins: 375 (20.8%)
Black Wins: 403 (22.4%)
Draws: 1022 (56.8%)
Unfinished: 0 (0.0%)
Estimated ratings for this elo 3466 pool
# PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%)
1 Komodo-Dragon 2.5 : 3641.5 137.5 200 69
2 Chess-System-Tal-NNUE-1.26 : 3503.3 1004.0 1800 56
3 Berserk 8 : 3494.6 97.5 200 49
4 SlowChess 2.8 : 3485.8 95.0 200 48
5 Koivisto 7.9 : 3475.2 92.0 200 46
6 Stockfish 10 : 3464.6 89.0 200 45
7 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE : 3445.0 83.5 200 42
8 RubiChess 2.2 : 3413.8 75.0 200 38
9 Igel 3.0.5 : 3381.2 66.5 200 33
10 Pedone 3.1 : 3354.9 60.0 200 30
Will create an official rating list, this takes a couple of hours, but I expect to see CSTAL on place 4 after the big 3.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
Rebel
Posts: 7476Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pmFull name: Ed Schröder
Post by Rebel Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:05 pm
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.
chrisw
Posts: 4773Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:28 pmLocation: Midi-PyrénéesFull name: Christopher Whittington
Post by chrisw Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:26 pm
Thanks Ed, I am a bit surprised, myself! Who could imagine, twenty-five years ago, that these ratings could ever be possible.
NNUE stuff is amazing, I’ve been really enjoying myself, and I know you have too.
Graham Banks
Posts: 45256Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:52 amLocation: Auckland, NZ
Post by Graham Banks Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:26 am
chrisw wrote: ↑ Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:26 pm
Thanks Ed, I am a bit surprised, myself! Who could imagine, twenty-five years ago, that these ratings could ever be possible.
NNUE stuff is amazing, I’ve been really enjoying myself, and I know you have too.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
Frank Quisinsky
Posts: 7214Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:16 pmLocation: Gutweiler, GermanyFull name: Frank Quisinsky
Post by Frank Quisinsky Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:03 pm
Hi Graham,
