I have a question, how much RAM is needed in a computer to test chess engines which will use the following RAM:
-4096
-8192
-16384
-32768
-65536
-98304
Thank you in advance for any information.
Ram usage
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yurikvelo
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Re: Ram usage
Fishtest use 64 Mb hash (128 Mb per game pair)
With 4 Gb RAM you can run 16 game pairs simultaneously
With 4 Gb RAM you can run 16 game pairs simultaneously
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Krzysztof Grzelak
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Re: Ram usage
Thank you for your answer yurikvelo. I have a question, why is it that if I set the hash 65536 in Stockfish, I show an error. However, other engines do not have such an error, for example Houdini, Komodo. I'm sorry but I can't understand why this is happening.
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RubiChess
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Re: Ram usage
You are aware that 65536 is in MByte which means that you try to allocate 64GB RAM for the engine? Do you have a computer with more than 64GB RAM (remember that the OS and maybe a second engine also need some RAM)?Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:08 pmThank you for your answer yurikvelo. I have a question, why is it that if I set the hash 65536 in Stockfish, I show an error. However, other engines do not have such an error, for example Houdini, Komodo. I'm sorry but I can't understand why this is happening.
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Krzysztof Grzelak
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Re: Ram usage
Of course you're right I have 128 GB of RAM. I'm playing a Houdini - Komodo match with a hash set of 65536, and I'm fine. Stockfish always shows an error and I can't install it (I'm talking about hash 65536).
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Sopel
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Re: Ram usage
If you set each engine to 50% of total RAM you will inevitably run into memory problems and cripple either or both of the engines in unpredictable ways undermining the test completely.Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:30 pmOf course you're right I have 128 GB of RAM. I'm playing a Houdini - Komodo match with a hash set of 65536, and I'm fine. Stockfish always shows an error and I can't install it (I'm talking about hash 65536).
dangi12012 wrote:No one wants to touch anything you have posted. That proves you now have negative reputations since everyone knows already you are a forum troll.
Maybe you copied your stockfish commits from someone else too?
I will look into that.
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Modern Times
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Re: Ram usage
I may be in the minority here, but I find these huge hash sizes (e.g. 64GB, 128GB) ridiculous. Just because you can does not mean you should, and where is the evidence that it improves engine performance and strength ?
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Magnum
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Re: Ram usage
64 GB RAM or more.Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:57 pm I have a question, how much RAM is needed in a computer to test chess engines which will use the following RAM:
-4096
-8192
-16384
-32768
-65536
-98304
Thank you in advance for any information.
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RubiChess
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Re: Ram usage
Maybe you need this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftRAM
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Krzysztof Grzelak
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Re: Ram usage
And why do you think so.I understand that for a TCEC tournament they would give a hash of 1024, it would be okay for you.Modern Times wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:52 am I may be in the minority here, but I find these huge hash sizes (e.g. 64GB, 128GB) ridiculous. Just because you can does not mean you should, and where is the evidence that it improves engine performance and strength ?