Please lesser hate mails ...

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

shortly ...
I got more and more hate mails, most from users here.

I will give a short explanation what I do and what is in my interest in detail.

It seems that my view to engines is completly different to many others here (think so).

My main interest are openings for make FEOBOS better. I will have the perfect opening system for eng-eng matches I like to see around Wasp.
I need a lot of games with time controls like 40/10 or 40/20 or 40/40. I need all the works by programmers offer stronger engines.

For that reason I need a lot of statisics, my tourney can give me.
For that reason I need a lot of different engines in playing style, my tourney can give the information.

Example Fire:
Fire is perfect for me ...

- in SIM tool I can see a different style to others.
- I can see it in my stats too.
- quatitiy of short won games is perfect
- move average is perfect
- eval is perfect for that what I do ... no big jumpings during the openings.

Same for Andscacs with Stockfish NN.
The style is an other, the eval ... the moves ... all what I need is perfect!

A ratinglist is really not very important for me.
My own is more a less a "waste product" from my statistic files.

...

At second I like Wasp and the work John do.
In Wasp is all inside what I need for my main interest ... an engine perfect for opening analyzes.

If, I am using best material (not important for me is an net file from Stockfish) my own results will be stronger and stronger. To use Stockfish derivated engines will give me more strong material but the results are the same ... statistics are the same. That make no sense for me. I try out all of the derivated engines in small tourneys here. But only ShashChess is interesting if I compare the moves and results for opening lines with Stockfish (can see interesting differents).

OK, for looking how strong is Wasp I need ratings ... but ratings alone are very boring for me.

I can nothing do with the material from others here.
Only CCRL 4-Core results are interesting for me.

What I like to say is ...
We have not all the same interest and we do not all the same with engines.

If programmers have problems with other programmers or such things ... not very nice I think for most of us.
I have no problems with Fire and Andscacs or others if I can see that the style is an other and the engines are perfect for analyses of openings. I have to try out the complete available material ... perhaps I can use an engine for my main interest.

Or a bit harder ...
Elo is shit egal for me (not if I am looking on Wasp).

Maybe others can understand it now a bit better.
I have nothing against our programmers, OK I don't like what different do.
On the other hand I am thinking often ... all the programmers have a good reason to be proud of the own work.
Of course, I can understand the reasons programmers have but all this is quiet different to my own ...

So the programmers like programmings ...
Frank like openings or the older chess computers or GUIs, or to read chess books ...

Again, Elo is for me really not very interesting.

I hope a bit more clear and lesser hate mails will be the final result.

I like each work a programmer do for us and will give all my thanks!

But please ...

Often my wife open my mail program because we used the same mail address.
She have nothing to do with all that or I have to stopp my complete contribution I do since many years!

Thank you!

Best
Frank

[Andrew]

Anyone who thinks it's nice to send private hate mails to other members, you are not welcome here, scram!

And if anyone does receive these messages, please report them to the boards organisers/moderators.

People of this very low intellect will often leave "clues" which identify them!

Andrew

[Wolfgang]

+1

[Graham Banks]

Not cool. Leave Frank alone.

[Frank Quisinsky]

I believe the start point was:
forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79949&start=10

Thank you!!
I think after non reaction from TalkChess others are thinking ... in this case we can send him part 2, part 3, part 4 ... which much harder words.

For the following reasons if I understand:

- I should delete the colors from the flag of the Ukraine from my start address or ... the fullmination
- I should directly delete all stats from my site. Wasp is 100% super and all the others are bad ... the fullmination after.
- I have directly to delete the rating list because Fire is inside.
- I have directly to test Ethereal 12.50 or we can switched some situations, not nice for you Frank ... the fullmination (comes not from the programmer of Ehtereal).
- all ratings are manipulated ... Stockfish is clearly stronger. 8000 Wasp games and 4000 Stockfish games ... I am a gay and all others should know that. At first my family, we have your address from impressum of your site.

Three of such mails I got from programmers!
It seems different of the programmers have really a very big friendship!

Furthermore, different programmers sent me copies from private mails between programmers.
I will not read that I am an asshole for that reason that Fire is in my rating list.
Much harder things ... not very nice!

I will not have copies from private mails programmers have written among each other.

I will give not the names from the the writers!
I await no helps from TalkChess.

...

Around middle of next months I create a new site around Wasp without any information about other chess programs:
Links, statistics / games / ratings ... only the main inforamation about Wasp.
I think the problem others have will be solve directly.
No more hate mails necessary.
Maybe I have to switch my mail address also.

Harmless if I am thinking on Arena times and the own fora.
But enough is enough!!

Let us play chess!

[mar]

I believe the start point was:
forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79949&start=10

Thank you!!

To be clear: I never sent any e-mail to you, I don't even know your e-mail address (and don't want to know),
I don't care about you and I have better things to do in my spare time.
Implying that I'm behind some childish hate e-mails is a blatant lie. I'm done with you, leave me out of this nonsense.
You won't get another reply from me. Move on.

[Frank Quisinsky]

I never wrote that you are one of the programmer where sent the mails.
I wrote that your message can be the start point for the mails I got.
A short time later I got the first ...

The last message I have written to you.
Better we go out of the way!

[Frank Quisinsky]

Maybe the writers of the mails have the same courage as the programmer of Cheng before and add the mails in TalkChess.

[Guenther]

I never wrote that you are one of the programmer where sent the mails.
I wrote that your message can be the start point for the mails I got.
A short time later I got the first ...

The last message I have written to you.
Better we go out of the way!

How do you know the mails you received were not fake mails, or just wanted to give a wrong impression leading you to this thread?

Why should anyone from 'talkchess' send hate mails at all? If one really did and can be proven just let him ban from here.

It's much too hot to waste time with computerchess and anything around anyway ;-)

[AndrewGrant]

I find it hard to believe people get hate mail -- when I personally don't get any.