Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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The question is, if 2 Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GMs like human do, I would put my money on the Top 2 GM. Probably the way to do it is to have for instance Komodo Dragon play two games of Bughouse simultaneously, in that case since one engine can keep trap of what is going on with both boards, 2 GMs can NOT beat it at Bughouse, but if Stockfish can also be programmed to play Bughouse we can witness very interesting bughouse games ==>
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Re: Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:36 am The question is, if 2 Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GMs like human do, I would put my money on the Top 2 GM. Probably the way to do it is to have for instance Komodo Dragon play two games of Bughouse simultaneously, in that case since one engine can keep trap of what is going on with both boards, 2 GMs can NOT beat it at Bughouse, but if Stockfish can also be programmed to play Bughouse we can witness very interesting bughouse games ==>
You would be 100% wrong "if 2Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GM's". Those engines would win.

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Re: Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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CornfedForever wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:58 am
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:36 am The question is, if 2 Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GMs like human do, I would put my money on the Top 2 GM. Probably the way to do it is to have for instance Komodo Dragon play two games of Bughouse simultaneously, in that case since one engine can keep trap of what is going on with both boards, 2 GMs can NOT beat it at Bughouse, but if Stockfish can also be programmed to play Bughouse we can witness very interesting bughouse games ==>
You would be 100% wrong "if 2Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GM's". Those engines would win.

Next question?
It would probably be hard to make them recognize what pieces are available from the other friendly board, but yes once they program them to play bughouse, as I stated before " in that case since one engine can keep trap of what is going on with both boards, 2 GMs can NOT beat them at Bughouse" NO top 2 humans would be able to beat the engines. :roll:

At the Moment GM Carlsen and Caruana are too strong for this weak App ==> https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... n_US&gl=US
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Re: Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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CornfedForever wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:58 am
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:36 am The question is, if 2 Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GMs like human do, I would put my money on the Top 2 GM. Probably the way to do it is to have for instance Komodo Dragon play two games of Bughouse simultaneously, in that case since one engine can keep trap of what is going on with both boards, 2 GMs can NOT beat it at Bughouse, but if Stockfish can also be programmed to play Bughouse we can witness very interesting bughouse games ==>
You would be 100% wrong "if 2Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GM's". Those engines would win.

Next question?
I do NOT believe that I might be wrong, since Bughouse is played with two, and in that case if Stockfish is paitred with a 2400 rated engine that also play bughouse and the two human GMs are either Caruana or Carlsen with another human that is at least 2600, I put my money on the two Human Gms since all thast it take is a bad move from the 2400 rated engine and the two engines will lose the match :roll:
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Re: Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:48 pm I do NOT believe that I might be wrong, since Bughouse is played with two, and in that case if Stockfish is paitred with a 2400 rated engine that also play bughouse and the two human GMs are either Caruana or Carlsen with another human that is at least 2600, I put my money on the two Human Gms since all thast it take is a bad move from the 2400 rated engine and the two engines will lose the match :roll:
Keep rollin' them puppies...but do remember that you initially said "if 2 Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GMs like human"

That would of course imply 2 top engines actually tuned for bughouse...else they would not truly be "created to play bughouse" and on worth hardware. If so, the humans would be beaten. All that makes a top human GM at regular chess a top human GM at regular chess...would be thrown out the window when it comes to bughouse. While the engines would...mercilessly crunch their way to victory.
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Re: Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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CornfedForever wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:43 am
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:48 pm I do NOT believe that I might be wrong, since Bughouse is played with two, and in that case if Stockfish is paitred with a 2400 rated engine that also play bughouse and the two human GMs are either Caruana or Carlsen with another human that is at least 2600, I put my money on the two Human Gms since all thast it take is a bad move from the 2400 rated engine and the two engines will lose the match :roll:
Keep rollin' them puppies...but do remember that you initially said "if 2 Top engines are created to play bughouse Chess against 2 top GMs like human"

That would of course imply 2 top engines actually tuned for bughouse...else they would not truly be "created to play bughouse" and on worth hardware. If so, the humans would be beaten. All that makes a top human GM at regular chess a top human GM at regular chess...would be thrown out the window when it comes to bughouse. While the engines would...mercilessly crunch their way to victory.
You got me with my own preview statement, but at the moment there are no two engines rated above 2730 that are strong enough to beat two of these 4 GMs together at Bughouse, probably in 3 to 6 more months when two of the top 110 engines could also play Bughouse Chess ==> :roll: :mrgreen: :roll:
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Re: Are there any Chess top engines that play bughouse ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:36 am
You got me with my own preview statement...
No sweat...seriously.