[POLL] GPU Programming and Chess

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Will GPUs play a big role in computerchess this decade?

No - Alphabeta Algorithm is single threaded
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4%
No - Memory issues
1
4%
No - Latency
1
4%
No - Monte Carlo Tree Search will never be as good
0
No votes
No - Neural Networks will never be as fast on the GPU
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4%
No - Other Reason
4
17%
Yes - But its hard to program correctly
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26%
Yes - As soon as the latency issues are solved
2
9%
Yes - Neural Networks are faster on the GPU
4
17%
Yes - Other Reason
3
13%
 
Total votes: 23

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[POLL] GPU Programming and Chess

Post by dangi12012 »

With gpgpu performance having been 1-2 orders of magnitude faster than cpus per dollar and watt - what is your opinion for gpus in chessprogramming?
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Re: [POLL] GPU Programming and Chess

Post by Lazy_Frank »

Told to MCTS: Learn play chess! is about the same as told to 3 months old baby: Learn high jumping!
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Re: [POLL] GPU Programming and Chess

Post by smatovic »

"The best way to predict the future is to invent it."
Alan Kay

If, a) I can implement NNUE, if b) I replace selectivity with NNOM++, if c) I increase nps throughput per worker with Zeta v099 running on a GPU it might be competitive against AB-NNUE CPU engines in some distant future.

I see a trend to increased single core AB-engine Elo performance, less parallel.

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Re: [POLL] GPU Programming and Chess

Post by supersharp77 »

Tried it........unable to get it to coordinate properly on My Laptop on Fritz...Winboard Or Banksia Chess GUi's (so far).. 8-)
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Re: [POLL] GPU Programming and Chess

Post by smatovic »

supersharp77 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:34 am Tried it........unable to get it to coordinate properly on My Laptop on Fritz...Winboard Or Banksia Chess GUi's (so far).. 8-)
Please follow the instructions from the README file or start in command line with --help option to get these, Zeta needs to query the hardware and create a config file first, further there is a 2 seconds gpu computation timeout on Windows OS which can be resolved by the delivered registry file, and it is Winboard/XBoard protocol. That being said, it is still a quite simple implementation of an chess engine. not much to see for the common user, or alike. You can PM me the file zeta.log if you encounter further issues.

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