Rebel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:30 pm
Magnus Carlsen vs Hans Niemann Round 3 St Louis USA
A quick analysis of the game with MultiPV=4
http://rebel13.nl/mc-vs-hn.txt
Makes me wonder what kind of statistics (other than similarity) you can extract from this kind of information.
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8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P1K1/7P/5n2 w - - Carlsen,M 48. g3f2 0-1;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P1K1/7P/5n2 w - - mpv=1; bm g3g4; ce -118; acd 19;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P1K1/7P/5n2 w - - mpv=2; bm g3f2; ce -202; acd 18;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P1K1/7P/5n2 w - - mpv=3; bm g3h4; ce -204; acd 18;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P1K1/7P/5n2 w - - mpv=4; bm g3g2; ce -260; acd 18;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P3/5K1P/5n2 b - - Niemann,Hans Moke 48... f1h2 0-1;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P3/5K1P/5n2 b - - mpv=1; bm f1h2; ce 225; acd 20;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P3/5K1P/5n2 b - - mpv=2; bm f1d2; ce 137; acd 19;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P3/5K1P/5n2 b - - mpv=3; bm e5f6; ce 0; acd 19;
8/1p3B2/p6p/P3k3/6p1/4P3/5K1P/5n2 b - - mpv=4; bm g4g3; ce -9; acd 19;
Ideas?
Make it a github community project and help the chess world?
The games of Hans Niemann -
http://rebel13.nl/niemann.pgn
Well Mr Rebel We must assume Thousands upon Thousands are working on this situation at present...I believe TALKCHESS is in Perfect Position to Address These issues...(Computer Cheating Online & Use Of Unknown Technology For Nefarious Purposes OTB)....Currently trying to figure out "Lets Check Analysis which by its definition (it seems to be based on Lc0's "community learning features") opens up new vistas for additional problems
"3.12 Let`s Check Analysis Feature
3.12.1 Description
"Let’s check" is a new analysis function which will revolutionize the chess world for
years to come.
Engine analysis has changed chess forever. This is so obvious that many aspects are
now taken for granted. For instance, a slow engine on an old notebook does not
always tell the truth, and yet people only wait a few seconds before uncritically
making the recommended move. Popular positions are analyzed by thousands of
players over and over again. This means an immense amount of time and electrical
energy, both of which are finite resources.
The program offers help. Every position that has been analyzed by anyone at any time
is voluntarily saved on a server. The possible engine variations are then available to
everyone who looks at this position. We call this system „Let’s Check“ because
detailed analysis can be gained immediately without investing any time.
Whoever analyses a variation deeper than his predecessor overwrites his analysis. This
means that the Let’s Check information becomes more precise as time passes. The
system depends on cooperation. No one has to publish his secret openings
preparation. But in the case of current and historic games it is worth sharing your
analysis with others, since it costs not one click of extra work. Using this function all
of the program's users can build an enormous knowledge database. Whatever position
you are analyzing the program can send your analysis on request to the "Let’s check"
Server. The best analyses are then accepted into the chess knowledge database. This
new chess knowledge database offers the user fast access to the analysis and
evaluations of other strong chess programs, and it is also possible to compare your
own analysis with it directly. In the case of live broadcasts on Playchess.com
hundreds of computers will be following world class games in parallel and adding their
deep analyses to the "Let's Check" database. This function will become an
irreplaceable tool for openings analysis in the future."
Based on that Definition 'white hats' or 'black hats' might be able to use it in various ways to effect future game results....could be helpful or damaging
in my opinion....
