White to play and draw

[Chessqueen]

Can you draw versus top engines with the White pieces? Please do NOT cheat by using any top engine to help you.

[pgn][Event "See if you can DRAW?"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2023.01.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "player"]
[Black "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "3525"]
[Time "19:58:18"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "600+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/1p6/1p6/1Pp2P1K/k1P5/N1Pp4/q2P4/1N6 w - - 1 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "0"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]

*[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

Without using any endgame tablebases top engines are too strong nowadays, and it was solved with time control of less than 2 minutes

[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2023.01.22"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Stockfish_23011407_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3535"]
[Time "00:39:06"]
[WhiteElo "3535"]
[TimeControl "60+2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2b4k/8/5Pr1/5N2/8/8/8/K1B5 w - - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "10"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. f7 {(f6-f7 Rg6-a6+ Bc1-a3 Ra6xa3+ Ka1-b2 Ra3-b3+ Kb2-a2 Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q
Rb3-b7 Qf8xc8 Rb7-a7+ Ka2-b2 Kh7-g6 Qc8-e6+ Kg6-h5 Qe6-e8+ Kh5-g4 Qe8-e4+
Kg4-g5 Qe4-e3+ Kg5xf5 Qe3xa7 Kf5-e5 Kb2-c3 Ke5-d5 Qa7-a4 Kd5-d6 Qa4-c2
Kd6-e5 Qc2-a2 Ke5-f4 Qa2-e6 Kf4-g3 Kc3-d2) +10.52/25 4} Ra6+ {(Rg6-a6+
Bc1-a3 Ra6xa3+ Ka1-b2 Ra3-a2+ Kb2-c1 Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1 Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q Rc2-c7
Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5
Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c4+ Ke6-d6 Qc4-d5+ Kd6-c7
Qd5xh5 Kc7-d6 Qh5-d5+ Kd6xe7 Qd5-e4+ Ke7-d7 Qe4-a4+ Kd7-d8 Qa4-a5+ Kd8-d7
Qa5-a7+ Kd7-d6 Qa7-d4+ Kd6-e7 Qd4-h4+ Ke7-f7 Qh4-c4+ Kf7-f6 Kd2-c1) -M59/60
15} 2. Ba3 {(Bc1-a3 Ra6xa3+ Ka1-b2 Ra3-a2+ Kb2-c1 Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1 Kh8-h7
f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+
Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c6+ Ke6xe7
Qc6-c5+ Ke7-f6 Qc5xh5 Kf6-e6 Qh5-e8+ Ke6-d6 Qe8-d8+ Kd6-e6 Qd8-c8+ Ke6-e5
Qc8-c5+ Ke5-e4 Qc5-e7+ Ke4-d5 Qe7-f7+ Kd5-d6 Qf7-f6+ Kd6-d7 Qf6-f5+ Kd7-e7
Kd2-c3 Ke7-d6 Qf5-f4+ Kd6-e6 Qf4-g4+ Ke6-e5 Qg4-g5+ Ke5-e6) +M45/39 6}
Rxa3+ {(Ra6xa3+ Ka1-b2 Ra3-a2+ Kb2-c1 Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1 Rc2-c7 f7-f8Q+ Kh8-h7
Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5
Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c4+ Ke6xe7 Qc4-c5+ Ke7-d7
Qc5xh5 Kd7-d6 Kd2-c3 Kd6-e6 Qh5-g5 Ke6-d6 Qg5-f5 Kd6-c6 Qf5-e6+ Kc6-b5
Qe6-d5+ Kb5-a6 Kc3-d3 Ka6-a7 Kd3-c4 Ka7-b6 Kc4-d4 Kb6-a6 Kd4-c5 Ka6-a7
Kc5-c6 Ka7-b8 Qd5-b3+ Kb8-a8 Qb3-b7+) -M27/45 17} 3. Kb2 {(Ka1-b2 Ra3-a2+
Kb2-c1 Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1 Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8
Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7
Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c6+ Ke6xe7 Qc6-c5+ Ke7-d7 Qc5xh5 Kd7-e6 Qh5-g6+ Ke6-d5
Qg6-f5+ Kd5-c6 Kd2-d3 Kc6-b6 Kd3-d4 Kb6-a6 Qf5-d5 Ka6-b6 Kd4-c4 Kb6-a6
Kc4-c5 Ka6-a7 Kc5-c6 Ka7-b8 Qd5-b3+ Kb8-a8 Qb3-b7+) +M25/45 7} Ra2+
{(Ra3-a2+ Kb2-c1 Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1 Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+
Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+
Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c6+ Ke6xe7 Qc6-c5+ Ke7-d7 Qc5xh5 Kd7-e6 Qh5-g6+
Ke6-d5 Qg6-f6 Kd5-e4 Qf6-e6+ Ke4-d4 Kd2-c2 Kd4-c5 Kc2-c3 Kc5-b5 Qe6-d6
Kb5-a5 Kc3-c4 Ka5-a4 Qd6-b4+) -M22/48 20} 4. Kc1 {(Kb2-c1 Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1
Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7
Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c6+
Ke6xe7 Qc6-c5+ Ke7-d7 Qc5xh5 Kd7-e6 Qh5-g6+ Ke6-d7 Kd2-e3 Kd7-e7 Qg6-c6
Ke7-f7 Ke3-f4 Kf7-e7 Kf4-f5 Ke7-d8 Qc6-b7 Kd8-e8 Kf5-e6 Ke8-f8 Qb7-f7+)
+M22/48 6} Rc2+ {(Ra2-c2+ Kc1-d1 Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8
Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7
Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c6+ Ke6xe7 Qc6-c5+ Ke7-d7 Qc5xh5 Kd7-e6
Qh5-e8+ Ke6-d6 Kd2-e3 Kd6-c5 Qe8-e6 Kc5-b4 Ke3-d4 Kb4-b5 Qe6-d7+ Kb5-a5
Qd7-b7 Ka5-a4 Kd4-c4 Ka4-a3 Qb7-b3+) -M21/46 8} 5. Kd1 {(Kc1-d1 Kh8-h7
f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7 Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+
Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6 Qc7-c6+ Ke6xe7
Qc6-c5+ Ke7-d7 Qc5xh5 Kd7-e6 Qh5-e8+ Ke6-d6 Kd2-e3 Kd6-d5 Qe8-d7+ Kd5-c4
Ke3-d2 Kc4-b4 Qd7-d5 Kb4-a3 Kd2-c3 Ka3-a4 Qd5-h5 Ka4-a3 Qh5-a5+) +M21/45 2}
Kh7 {(Kh8-h7 f7-f8Q Rc2-c7 Qf8-h6+ Kh7-g8 Qh6-g6+ Kg8-h8 Qg6-f6+ Kh8-h7
Nf5-e7 Bc8-g4+ Kd1-d2 Bg4-h5 Qf6-f5+ Kh7-g7 Qf5-e5+ Kg7-f7 Qe5xc7 Kf7-e6
Qc7-c6+ Ke6xe7 Qc6-c5+ Ke7-d7 Qc5xh5 Kd7-c6 Qh5-f5 Kc6-d6 Kd2-c3 Kd6-c7
Kc3-d4 Kc7-c6 Qf5-e6+ Kc6-c7 Kd4-c5 Kc7-b7 Qe6-d7+ Kb7-a8 Kc5-c6 Ka8-b8
Qd7-b7+) -M20/46 5 Black resigns} *[/pgn]

[Ajedrecista]

Hello:

These positions are easy to find on the Internet. Just in case anybody is interested in know the solutions:

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First position: Noam Elkies (most sources give 1991 but this one gives 1993 at page 9):

https://yacpdb.org/#330633
https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P1308962

This position was already discussed at Talkchess a few times. Some of them:

Re: Possiblity of an cooked study
A wrong mate score by stockfish because 50 move rule

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Second position: Vladimir Alexandrovic Korolkov (1st Prize, Lelo 1951):

https://yacpdb.org/#275816
https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P1307510
https://www.arves.org/arves/index.php/e ... -1907-1987

Intended solution:

[pgn][Event "1.p Lelo"]
[Site ""]
[Date "1951"]
[Round ""]
[White "Vladimir Korolkov"]
[Black ""]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2b4k/8/5Pr1/5N2/8/8/8/K1B5 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "23"]
[EventDate "1951"]

1. f7 (1. Bb2 $2 Rxf6) 1... Ra6+ (1... Rf6 2. Bb2) (1... Rg8 2. fxg8=Q+ Kxg8 3. Ne7+) 2. Ba3 $1 (2. Kb1 $2 Bxf5+) (2. Kb2 $2 Rf6) 2... Rxa3+ 3. Kb2 Ra2+ $1 ( 3... Rb3+ 4. Ka2 $1) 4. Kc1 $1 (4. Kc3 $2 Rc2+ $1 5. Kb4 (5. Kd4 Rd2+ 6. Ke5 Rd8) 5... Rb2+ 6. Kc5 Rc2+ 7. Kd6 (7. Kb6 Rb2+) 7... Rd2+ 8. Ke7 Rd7+) (4. Kxa2 $2 Be6+) 4... Ra1+ $1 (4... Rc2+ 5. Kd1) 5. Kd2 (5. Kb2 $2 Rb1+ $1 6. Kc3 Rb3+ $1 7. Kd4 (7. Kd2 Rd3+) 7... Rd3+ 8. Kxd3 Bxf5+) 5... Ra2+ 6. Ke3 (6. Ke1 $2 Ra1+ 7. Kf2 Ra2+ 8. Kg3 Ra3+ 9. Kh4 Rh3+ $1 10. Kg5 Rg3+ 11. Kh6 Rh3+) 6... Ra3+ 7. Kf4 Ra4+ 8. Kg5 (8. Kg3 $2 Rg4+) 8... Rg4+ 9. Kh6 $1 (9. Kxg4 $2 Bxf5+ 10. Kxf5 Kg7 11. Ke6 Kf8 12. Kf6) (9. Kh5 $2 Rg8 10. Ne7 Rf8 11. Ng6+ Kg7) (9. Kf6 $2 Rg8 10. Ne7 Rd8) 9... Rg8 $1 (9... Rg6+ 10. Kxg6 Bxf5+ 11. Kh6) (9... Rh4+ 10. Nxh4) 10. Ne7 Be6 (10... Rf8 11. Ng6#) 11. fxg8=Q+ $1 (11. Ng6+ $2 Rxg6+ 12. Kxg6 Bxf7+) 11... Bxg8 12. Ng6# 1-0[/pgn]

This position was already discussed at Talkchess a few times. For example:

Why does Houdini 1.5a fail on this position?

And appeared in 1986 in the Volume 3 of the Encyclopedia of Chess Endgames (study #1385) according to a post at Winboard Forum.

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Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.