More Moore....beyond Moore's Law?

[smatovic]

RIP Gordon Moore...

"Intel Co-Founder/Creator of 'Moore's Law' Gordon Moore Dies at Age 94"
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/ ... -at-age-94

What's your take about more Moore? Beyond Moore's Law? We have now 5nm, 3nm in pipe, and 2nm and 1+nm upcoming, ofc, meanwhile marketing numbers, but should reflect transistor density of the fab process.

What about:

- Memristors?
- Photonics?
- Quantum Computers?
- Wetware (artificial biological brains)?

I still wait to see Memristor based NVRAM and neuromorphic chip designs....but maybe people are now into Wetware for large language models, biological brains run way more energy efficient...

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Srdja

[Uri]

What about Graphene, carbon nanotubes, spintronics and nanoelectronics?

[Uri]

Check out these 2 articles on computing beyond Moore's law:

https://builtin.com/hardware/moores-law
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2019.0061

[smatovic]

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https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2019.0061

Thanks for the article:

(i) Hardware-driven algorithm design: where we evaluate emerging accelerators in the context of workload, and modify algorithms to take full advantage of new accelerators.

(ii) Algorithm-driven hardware design: where we design largely fixed-function accelerators based on algorithm or application requirements.

(iii) Co-develop hardware and algorithms: this represents a cooperative design with a selected industry partner or partnership to design algorithms and hardware together.

That is the beauty in computer chess, we had it all:

Mainframe, Super-Computer, Minicomputer, Microcomputer, Cluster, Grid.

Belle, HiTech, Deep Blue, Hydra, AlphaZero.

CPU, VPU, TPU, GPU, FPGA, ASIC.

SRAM, DRAM, HDD, SSD.

MiniMax, AlphaBeta, MCTS-PUCT, HCE, Neural Networks, SMP, UMA, NUMA.

Big-Data, Number-Crunching.

We use it all for chess.

After reading, I would like to add:

- MPU - memory processing unit?

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Srdja

[smatovic]

Missed that one:

- Superconductor (at room temperature)?

"A Tech Industry Pioneer Sees a Way for the US To Lead in Advanced Chips"
https://news.slashdot.org/story/23/04/2 ... nced-chips

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Srdja

[towforce]

RIP Gordon Moore...

"Intel Co-Founder/Creator of 'Moore's Law' Gordon Moore Dies at Age 94"
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/ ... -at-age-94

I missed this news!

During his lifetime, he saw his "law" more or less being upheld (it has been slowing down recently)

For me, all of the above posts about keeping his "law" going miss the single most important development - use of AI to do what supercomputers did previously. As an example, probably more than 50% of supercomputers were purchased for doing fluid dynamics (weather is an obvious example, as is air flow around an aircraft. Also, the Livermore laboratory has bought a large number of supercomputers over the decades, and, although they don't say it officially, it seems likely that they used them to simulate nuclear explosions, which IMO is kind of like fluid dynamics). It turns out that fluid dynamics can be done more cheaply using AI (e.g. link). So my answer is that software will continue to boost computer power in the period ahead (I understand that, strictly speaking, software is not a part of Moore's law - but it goes to increasing the capability of a computer for the same (or lower) cost). Outside of fluid dynamics, AI will improve:

* the ease with which software can be written

* the quality of software

* the size of software (Windows 11 is currently about 30 Gb. For an operating system. Maybe software can become less bloaty in the AI age?)

Also, if you believe in my movement (which has a rapidly growing membership of one person right now ), massive gains are there for the taking in AI by finding deep underlying patterns rather than shallow surface patterns (see my previous posts about this).

[smatovic]

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Also, if you believe in my movement (which has a rapidly growing membership of one person right now ), massive gains are there for the taking in AI by finding deep underlying patterns rather than shallow surface patterns (see my previous posts about this).

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Srdja