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ChessBase updated GUI

Post by Eduard »

ChessBase has updated the Fritz 18 GUI (now version 16) and CB 16 GUI (now version 20). There was also a tablebase syzygy GUI bug with 6 pieces. The previous GUI version (not engine) displayed a 6 pieces syzygy incorrectly. That's fixed now too.
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

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Any news on dark mode option for fritz 18?
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Dark mode was implemented with CB 17. I only have CB 16, what does this mode look like?

Fritz 18 and CB 16 was changed anyway. While it's not a dark mode, it's now easier on the eyes. Maybe Fritz 19 will bring dark mode. There was a BUG in CB 16 when searching for players. That has been corrected.
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

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On a side note...

Changelog:

18.16
- Bug in database Libraries.
- Print games with coloured diagrams and new 2D board only printed coordinates.

18.15
- Regression: Notation with figurine was broken.
- Regression: Unused and deactivated menu for styles removed.
- Display bug with long notation.
- Game list display error with final material.
- Save position as picture with new 2D board always produced coordinates.
- Print game selection without annotations didn't print moves.
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CB 16.20
- Regression: Advanced search mask was used always.
- Regression: Search for player was broken.
- Bug in manoeuvre search display on second call of dialog.
- List layout of reference, search result, etc. is stored.
- Display bug with long notation.
- Game list display error with final material.
- Print game selection without annotations didn't print moves.
- Variation dialog only supported figurines with notation fonts Arial and SegoeUI.
- Right click on cloud databases requests a list of (possible) monthly backups and the option to restore them.
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

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Unfortunately the Fritz 18 GUI is still BUGGY!

Unfortunately, playing with 6 pieces Syzygy with GUI-moves is still not possible!! Some corrections have been made, but not everything.

Game:

[Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2023.05.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Solista, FRENESI-avx2"]
[Black "GamesByGames, Stockfish dev-20230"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C54"]
[WhiteElo "3054"]
[BlackElo "3059"]
[Annotator "0.00;0.00"]
[PlyCount "232"]
[EventDate "2023.05.17"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{Stockfish dev-20230507-nogit (24 threads): 72.3 plies; 18.398kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v3 @ 2.60GHz 2594MHz, (14 cores, 28 threads), FRENESI.ctg, 2048 MB} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 3. Bc4 {B 0} Bc5 {B 0} 4. O-O {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 5. d3 {B 0} d6 {B 0} 6. c3 {B 0} a5 {B 0} 7. Re1 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 8. h3 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 9. Nbd2 {B 0} Be6 {B 0} 10. Bb5 {B 0} Qb8 {B 0} 11. Nf1 {B 0} Qa7 {B 0} 12. Re2 {B 0} a4 {B 0} 13. Ng3 {B 0} Qa5 {B 0} 14. Bxc6 {B 0} bxc6 {B 0} 15. Nh4 {B 0} Rfe8 {B 0} 16. Re1 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 17. exd5 {B 0} cxd5 {B 0} 18. Rxe5 {B 0} Bf8 {B 0} 19. Re2 {B 0} c5 {B 0} 20. Bd2 {B 0} Qa6 {B 0} 21. Be3 {B 0} Bd7 {B 0} 22. Rc1 {B 0} Rad8 {B 0} 23. Nf3 {B 0} Bd6 {B 0} 24. Re1 {B 0} Re7 {B 0} 25. Qd2 {B 0} Rb8 {B 0} 26. Rcd1 {B 0} Ree8 {B 0} 27. Qc2 {B 0} Qb6 {0.00/45 14} 28. Rb1 {B 0} Qa6 {0.00/39 4} 29. Qd2 {0.00/63 13} Rb6 {B 0 (Bb5)} 30. b3 {0.00/54 5} Qb7 {B 0 (Reb8)} 31. Bf4 {0.07/40 5} Rxe1+ {0.04/36 6} 32. Nxe1 {0.05/45 1} Bxf4 {0.02/34 4} 33. Qxf4 {0.04/45 2} axb3 {0.03/45 2} 34. axb3 {0.01/47 4} Rxb3 {0.02/44 1} 35. Rxb3 {0.01/53 8} Qxb3 {0.02/45 1} 36. Qc1 {0.04/54 16} Bb5 {0.01/46 0 (Qb5)} 37. d4 {0.03/46 5} cxd4 {0.01/45 0} 38. cxd4 {0.03/42 5} Bd7 {0.01/43 0} 39. Kh2 {0.02/48 5} Be6 {0.01/46 3} 40. Qf4 {0.02/43 3} Ne8 {0.00/40 2} 41. Qe5 {0.00/47 5 (Nf3)} Nf6 {0.00/64 5} 42. Nf3 {0.00/53 0} Qd3 {0.00/54 6} 43. Qb8+ {0.00/55 0 (Kg1)} Kh7 {0.00/59 5} 44. Qe5 {0.00/56 0} Kg8 {0.00/56 4} 45. Kg1 {0.00/54 0} Qd1+ {0.00/55 9 (Qc2)} 46. Qe1 {0.00/65 4} Qxe1+ {0.00/52 0 (Qc2)} 47. Nxe1 {0.00/65 4} g5 {0.00/54 1} 48. f3 {0.00/57 5 (Nc2)} Kg7 {0.00/60 5} 49. Kf2 {0.00/56 0} h5 {0.00/63 4} 50. Ne2 {0.00/58 0} h4 {0.00/64 4} 51. Nd3 {0.00/60 1} Ng8 {0.00/58 3} 52. f4 {0.00/58 1 (g4)} f6 {0.00/69 5} 53. fxg5 {0.00/63 1 (Nc5)} fxg5 {0.00/62 9} 54. Ne5 {0.00/65 0 (Nc5)} Ne7 {0.00/73 4} 55. Nc3 {0.00/65 1} Kf6 {0.00/76 3} 56. Nf3 {0.00/60 1 (Nb5)} Kg6 {0.00/63 4 (Nf5)} 57. g3 {0.00/73 4 (Nb5)} hxg3+ {0.00/70 4 (Bxh3)} 58. Kxg3 {0.00/99 5} Nf5+ {0.00/67 0} 59. Kf2 {0.00/92 4 (Kg2)} Kh5 {0.00/101 11 (Kf6)} 60. Ne2 {0.00/88 4 (Ne5)} Nh4 {0.00/69 8} 61. Ng3+ {0.00/80 0 (Nfg1)} Kg6 {0.00/72 4} 62. Ne5+ {0.00/79 1 (Ng1)} Kf6 {0.00/73 3} 63. Ng4+ {0.00/80 1} Kg6 {0.00/73 2 (Ke7)} 64. Ne5+ {0.00/90 4 (Nf1)} Kf6 {0.00/74 3} 65. Ng4+ {0.00/84 1} Bxg4 {0.00/81 1 (Ke7)} 66. hxg4 {0.00/92 4} Ng6 {0.00/78 0} 67. Nf1 {0.00/97 4 (Ne2)} Nf4 {0.00/91 4} 68. Ke3 {0.00/90 1} Ng2+ {0.00/91 3 (Kf7)} 69. Kd2 {0.00/108 4} Nf4 {0.00/83 0 (Kf7)} 70. Ne3 {0.00/103 4 (Nh2)} Ke6 {0.00/88 3} 71. Nd1 {0.00/86 1 (Nc2)} Kd7 {0.00/81 3 (Ng6)} 72. Nc3 {0.00/96 4 (Ke3)} Kc6 {0.00/93 3 (Kd6)} 73. Ke3 {0.00/93 4 (Nd1)} Ng2+ {0.00/94 3 (Kd6)} 74. Kf2 {0.00/88 3 (Kd2)} Nf4 {0.00/87 3 (Nh4)} 75. Ke3 {0.00/96 4} Ng2+ {0.00/77 0} 76. Kd2 {0.00/89 3} Kd6 {0.00/73 0} 77. Nb5+ {0.00/83 3} Ke7 {0.00/76 0 (Kd7)} 78. Nc3 {0.00/87 3 (Nc7)} Nf4 {0.00/75 3} 79. Nb1 {0.00/80 0 (Na2)} Ke6 {0.00/83 3 (Kd6)} 80. Ke3 {0.00/88 3 (Nc3)} Ng2+ {0.00/84 3 (Ng6)} 81. Kf2 {0.00/83 7 (Kd2)} Nf4 {0.00/72 3} 82. Nc3 {0.00/83 1 (Ke3)} Nh3+ {0.00/64 3 (Ke7)} 83. Ke1 {0.00/86 4 (Kf3)} Kd6 {0.00/76 3 (Nf4)} 84. Ne2 {0.00/91 4 (Ke2)} Ke7 {0.00/80 3} 85. Ng3 {0.00/82 2 (Nc3)} Nf4 {0.00/78 2} 86. Nf5+ {0.00/83 0 (Kd2)} Ke6 {0.00/91 3 (Kd7)} 87. Ng7+ {0.00/71 3 (Kd2)} Kf7 {0.00/79 2} 88. Nf5 {0.00/73 0} Ng2+ {0.00/76 2 (Nd3+)} 89. Kd1 {0.00/76 3 (Kd2)} Ke6 {0.00/78 3} 90. Ng7+ {0.00/76 0 (Ke2)} Kf7 {0.00/74 3 (Kf6)} 91. Nf5 {0.00/93 3} Ke6 {0.00/70 0} 92. Kd2 {0.00/90 2 (Ke2)} Nf4 {0.00/71 2 (Nh4)} 93. Kc3 {0.00/77 3} Kd7 {0.00/69 0 (Nh3)} 94. Kb4 {0.00/104 5} Kc6 {0.00/72 0} 95. Ne7+ {0.00/83 2 (Kb3)} Kd6 {0.00/117 13 (Kb6)} 96. Nf5+ {0.00/99 2} Ke6 {0.00/85 0 (Kc6)} 97. Kc5 {0.00/128 4} Nd3+ {0.00/93 0} 98. Kc6 {0.00/153 2} Nb4+ {0.00/97 0 (Ne5+)} 99. Kc5 {0.00/104 2 (Kb6)} Nd3+ {0.00/171 2} 100. Kc6 {0.00/149 0} Ne5+ {0.00/156 9} 101. dxe5 {0.00/193 0} Kxe5 {0.00/245 0} 102. Nh6 {0.00/0 0 (Kb5)} d4 {0} 103. Nf7+ {0.00/0 0} Kf4 {0} 104. Kd5 {0.00/0 0} d3 {0} 105. Kd4 {-1/0 0} d2 {-1/1 0} 106. Kc5 {-1/0 0} d1=Q {-1/1 0} 107. Nh6 {-1/0 0} Qxg4 {-2/1 0} 108. Kd6 {-2/0 0} Qh5 {-1/0 0} 109. Ng8 {-1/0 0} g4 {-2/1 0} 110. Nf6 {-2/1 0} Qe5+ {-1/0 0} 111. Kc6 {-1/0 0} Qxf6+ {-1/0 0} 112. Kd5 {-1/0 0} g3 {-1/1 0} 113. Kc4 {-1/0 0} g2 {-1/1 0} 114. Kc5 {-1/0 0} g1=Q+ {-2/1 0} 115. Kb4 {-2/0 0} Qb2+ {-1/0 0} 116. Ka4 {-1/0 0} Qa7# {-#1/0 0 (Lag: Av=0.18s, max=0.9s)} 0-1

My Fritz 18 GUI (not engine) with the latest update version 16, just played Kd5 here?? :x

Diagram:
Image

Solista,FRENESI-avx2 - GamesByGames,Stockfish dev-20230 0-1 0.0, Rated game, 5 min 2023
8/5N2/2K5/6p1/3p1kP1/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Solista f2:

1. = (0.00): 104.Kd5
2. = (0.00): 104.Nd6
3. -+ (-1): 104.Kb5
4. -+ (-1): 104.Kb6
5. -+ (-1): 104.Kb7
6. -+ (-1): 104.Kc5
7. -+ (-1): 104.Kc7
8. -+ (-1): 104.Kd6
9. -+ (-1): 104.Kd7
10. -+ (-1): 104.Nd8
11. -+ (-1): 104.Nh6
12. -+ (-1): 104.Nh8
13. -+ (-1): 104.Ne5
14. -+ (-1): 104.Nxg5
The position is equal

but:

Diagram:
Image

8/5N2/8/3K2p1/3p1kP1/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Solista f2:

1. = (0.00): 104...d3
2. = (0.00): 104...Kf3
3. = (0.00): 104...Kg3
4. = (0.00): 104...Kxg4
5. +- (1): 104...Ke3
The position is equal

False! After 104...d3:

8/5N2/8/3K2p1/5kP1/3p4/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Solista f2:

1. -+ (-1): 105.Kd4
2. -+ (-1): 105.Kc5
3. -+ (-1): 105.Kc6
4. -+ (-1): 105.Kc4
5. -+ (-1): 105.Kd6
6. -+ (-1): 105.Ke6
7. -+ (-1): 105.Nd6
8. -+ (-1): 105.Nd8
9. -+ (-1): 105.Nh6
10. -+ (-1): 105.Nh8
11. -+ (-1): 105.Ne5
12. -+ (-1): 105.Nxg5
Black mates

Black is winning. I lost a few games like this. It is not always the engine that is faulty, but unfortunately the GUI. I need to change the GUI or switch to 5-pieces (GUI only). Sad.
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

Post by Eduard »

Little Correction. Final GUI-error was here

Diagram:
Image

8/5N2/8/3K2p1/5kP1/3p4/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Solista f2:

1. -+ (-1): 105.Kd4
2. -+ (-1): 105.Kc5
3. -+ (-1): 105.Kc6
4. -+ (-1): 105.Kc4
5. -+ (-1): 105.Kd6
6. -+ (-1): 105.Ke6
7. -+ (-1): 105.Nd6
8. -+ (-1): 105.Nd8
9. -+ (-1): 105.Nh6
10. -+ (-1): 105.Nh8
11. -+ (-1): 105.Ne5
12. -+ (-1): 105.Nxg5
Black mates

Analysis by GUI is wrong.

11. -+ (-1): 105.Ne5 --> wrong. Ne5 is draw! That was the reason why GUI played Kd4??

8/5N2/8/3K2p1/5kP1/3p4/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis with 6-pieces Engine and only 5-pieces GUI:

Analysis by FRENESI-avx2:

105.Ne5 d2 106.Nd3+ Kg3 107.Nb2 d1Q+ 108.Nxd1
= (0.00) Depth: 245/8 00:00:02 18397kN, tb=418271
The position is equal

GUI is BUGGY.

It's best to use GUI Fritz 16 with update 38 and everything works perfectly, even with 6Pieces GUI. I will reinstall Fritz 16 with Update 38 (Update was in year 2022).
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

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More tragic is the same error under ChessBase 16.

Image

105.Ne5 is draw!

It is a professional GUI, actually very useful for correspondence chess players. But what if you can't rely on the analyses?

I noticed the first such error after Update 19 and wrote it to ChessBase. But now after update 20, a similar error. Unfortunately, as a correspondence chess player, I wouldn't trust this GUI anymore.
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

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NEXT Fritz 18 (Version 16) BUG! This time it hits my opponent with only 5 pieces on the board. I can no longer play on the server with this GUI!

PGN:

[Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2023.05.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Solista, FRENESI-avx2"]
[Black "AttitudeAdjuster4U, Stockfish dev-20230"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C47"]
[WhiteElo "3043"]
[BlackElo "3047"]
[Annotator "0.18;0.09"]
[PlyCount "139"]
[EventDate "2023.05.17"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]

{Stockfish dev-20230507-65e21505 (72 threads): 59.5 plies; 34.860kN/s Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz 2295MHz, (36 cores, 72 threads), FRENESI.ctg, 2048 MB} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 3. Nc3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 4. h3 {B 0} Bb4 {B 0} 5. Nd5 {B 0} Nxd5 {B 0} 6. exd5 {B 0} e4 {B 0} 7. dxc6 {B 0} exf3 {B 0} 8. Qxf3 {B 0} dxc6 {B 0} 9. Bc4 {B 0} Qe7+ {B 0} 10. Kd1 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 11. Re1 {B 0} Be6 {B 0} 12. Bxe6 {B 0} fxe6 {B 0} 13. Qe2 {B 0} Rf6 {B 0} 14. f3 {B 0} Rg6 {B 0} 15. Qf1 {B 0} a5 {B 0} 16. c3 {B 0} Bd6 {B 0} 17. d3 {B 0} a4 {B 0} 18. Re4 {0.18/48 18} Qf7 {B 0 (Bg3)} 19. Bd2 {0.21/38 10} Bg3 {0.09/36 14} 20. d4 {0.10/36 0} Qf5 {0.07/43 27} 21. Kc2 {0.11/41 0} Rf8 {0.05/36 3 (h5)} 22. Qd3 {0.10/39 6} b5 {0.05/34 2} 23. Rc1 {0.17/39 5} h5 {0.05/35 0} 24. Rf1 {0.08/40 8} h4 {0.03/38 0} 25. a3 {0.08/43 10} Rd8 {0.00/41 17} 26. Be3 {0.16/45 0} Rd6 {0.00/50 4} 27. Bf2 {0.04/56 40} e5 {0.00/57 5 (Rd5)} 28. Bxg3 {0.00/58 3} Rxg3 {0.00/47 1} 29. Rf2 {0.00/70 3} Qg6 {0.00/60 2} 30. Rxh4 {0.00/53 1} Rxg2 {0.00/53 4} 31. Rxg2 {0.00/55 0} Qxg2+ {0.00/53 4} 32. Kb1 {0.00/57 0} Rf6 {0.00/54 5 (exd4)} 33. Qh7+ {0.00/53 4} Kf8 {0.00/57 7} 34. dxe5 {0.00/53 0} Rxf3 {0.00/58 8} 35. Qh8+ {0.00/52 0} Kf7 {0.00/87 15} 36. e6+ {0.00/62 0} Ke7 {0.00/65 3} 37. Rd4 {0.00/61 1} Qg6+ {0.00/65 2} 38. Ka2 {0.00/61 1} Rf8 {0.00/63 2} 39. Qh4+ {0.00/63 5} Kxe6 {0.00/65 5} 40. Rg4 {0.00/59 0} Qf7 {0.00/57 4 (Qf5)} 41. c4 {0.00/68 7} Kd7 {0.00/59 0} 42. Rg5 {0.00/74 3} Qf3 {0.00/57 1 (Kc8)} 43. Rxg7+ {0.00/65 4} Kc8 {0.00/60 0} 44. Qg3 {0.00/75 5} Qxg3 {0.00/63 0 (Rf7)} 45. Rxg3 {0.00/68 3} Rf4 {0.00/59 1} 46. cxb5 {0.00/73 2} cxb5 {0.00/72 4} 47. b3 {0.00/75 0} axb3+ {0.00/92 3 (Kb7)} 48. Rxb3 {0.00/90 3} Rf2+ {0.00/88 0 (c6)} 49. Rb2 {0.00/131 4} Rxb2+ {0.00/132 0} 50. Kxb2 {0.00/245 0} Kd7 {0} 51. Kb3 {0.00/75 3} Kd6 {0 (c5)} 52. Kb4 {0.00/73 3} Kd5 {0.00/1 0 (c5+)} 53. Kxb5 {0.00/68 3} c6+ {1/0 0 (c5)} (53... c5) 54. Ka4 {1/1 0} c5 {3/1 0} 55. Kb3 {2/1 0} Kd4 {2/0 0} 56. Kc2 {1/1 0} c4 {1/0 0} 57. a4 {1/0 0} Kc5 {1/0 0} 58. h4 {1/0 0} Kb4 {1/0 0} 59. h5 {1/0 0} Kxa4 {1/0 0} 60. h6 {1/1 0} Kb4 {1/0 0} 61. h7 {1/1 0} Kc5 {1/0 0} 62. h8=Q {3/0 0} Kd5 {3/0 0} 63. Kc3 {1/1 0} Kd6 {1/0 0} 64. Kxc4 {6/1 0} Ke6 {6/1 0} 65. Qh5 {5/1 0} Kf6 {5/0 0} 66. Kd5 {4/1 0} Ke7 {4/1 0} 67. Qf3 {3/0 0} Kd7 {3/0 0} 68. Qf7+ {2/1 0} Kd8 {2/0 0} 69. Kc6 {1/0 0} Kc8 {1/1 0} 70. Qg8# {#1/0 0 (Lag: Av=0.11s, max=0.6s)} 1-0

Solista,FRENESI-avx2 - AttitudeAdjuster4U,Stockfish dev-20230 1-0 0.0, Rated game, 5 min 2023

Diagram:
Image

8/2p5/8/1K1k4/8/P6P/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by FRENESI-avx2:

1. +- (1): 53...c6+
2. +- (1): 53...c5
3. +- (1): 53...Kd4
4. +- (1): 53...Kd6
5. +- (1): 53...Ke4
6. +- (1): 53...Ke5
7. +- (1): 53...Ke6
White mates

GUI say 53...c5 is lost, and played 53...c6 in the game.

After 53...c5

8/8/8/1Kpk4/8/P6P/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by FRENESI-avx2:

1. = (0.00): 54.a4
2. = (0.00): 54.Ka4
3. = (0.00): 54.h4
4. -+ (-1): 54.Ka5
5. -+ (-1): 54.Ka6
6. -+ (-1): 54.Kb6
The position is equal

GUI says now draw. I now have to install Fritz 16 to be able to continue playing. Sad.

Before last 2 GUI Updates, Fritz 18 was OK. I've been playing with Fritz 18 for 1,5 years, and it's the first time that there's a BUG like this.
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Re: ChessBase updated GUI

Post by Eduard »

If you have the same problem, try previous version 14 again.

Picture:
Image

c5 = draw here.