New Apple devices for Chess :-)

[Magnum]

https://www.apple.com/
https://www.apple.com/apple-events/

15-inch MacBook Air.
Mac Studio.
New M2 Ultra chip.
Mac Pro.
Can we use Vision Pro for a new chess experience?
Metal 3
iOS 17
iPadOS 17
macOS Sonoma
watchOS 10

[towforce]

Can we use Vision Pro for a new chess experience?

1. Tell the invigilator that your optometrist has prescribed them

2. Use them to show you what moves to make

[smatovic]

So the new Mac Pro is basically a Mac Studio with 2-slice M2 Ulta, no 4-slice M2 Extreme this round, but with addtional 6 PCIe slots....wonder if Nvidia or AMD will join with drivers for macOS to beef things up.

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Srdja

[smatovic]

Regarding Apple Vision Pro, I would prefer something like the "Spacetop AR Laptop" with a real keyboard:

https://www.wired.com/story/sightful-sp ... s-on-news/
https://www.sightful.com/

but with custom installed Linux instead Android based OS.

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Srdja

[Werewolf]

So the new Mac Pro is basically a Mac Studio with 2-slice M2 Ulta, no 4-slice M2 Extreme this round, but with addtional 6 PCIe slots....wonder if Nvidia or AMD will join with drivers for macOS to beef things up.

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Srdja

With the exception of plug-in cards, and possibly a slightly higher clock speed, I cannot see any difference between the Mac Pro and a Mac Studio.

A benchmark has appeared showing the Mac Pro being left behind by a 7950X in Cinebench, but I don't know if it's genuine.

[smatovic]

So the new Mac Pro is basically a Mac Studio with 2-slice M2 Ulta, no 4-slice M2 Extreme this round, but with addtional 6 PCIe slots....wonder if Nvidia or AMD will join with drivers for macOS to beef things up.

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Srdja

With the exception of plug-in cards, and possibly a slightly higher clock speed, I cannot see any difference between the Mac Pro and a Mac Studio.

A benchmark has appeared showing the Mac Pro being left behind by a 7950X in Cinebench, but I don't know if it's genuine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_sil ... ple_M2_Max

Apple claims the CPU performance on the M2 Max is 20 percent faster that M1 Max and the GPU is 30 percent faster than the M1 Max.

I like AMD's chiplet approach more than the slice one, seems to scale better, AMD has 8 to 12 chiplets (each 8 cores) and one IO chip, Intel has currently up to 4-slice, Apple 2-slice CPUs...

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Srdja

[wickedpotus]

So the new Mac Pro is basically a Mac Studio with 2-slice M2 Ulta, no 4-slice M2 Extreme this round, but with addtional 6 PCIe slots....wonder if Nvidia or AMD will join with drivers for macOS to beef things up.

It is possible that if Apple were to allow their hardware on the system, AMD and NVIDIA would be willing to produce drivers. However, Apple has a preference for their own proprietary components in order to optimize their profit margins. As long as there are enough users who are willing to pay a premium despite potentially inferior performance, Apple may not see a reason to provide access to better hardware on their platform.