First release ADRL Blitz List

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First release ADRL Blitz List

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ADRL stands for - Anti Draw Rating List.

Less draws between top engines.

Using the challenging TCEC positions composed by Jeroen Noomen and GM Matthew Sadler where there is always something to play for.

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  # PLAYER                 :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)  CFS(%)    W    D    L  D(%)
   1 Stockfish-16           :  3746.5   22.2   408.0     520    78     100  301  214    5    41
   2 Berserk-11.1           :  3554.2   16.6   296.0     520    57      79  171  250   99    48
   3 Komodo-Dragon-2.5      :  3546.4   12.7   291.0     520    56      96  150  282   88    54
   4 RubiChess-20230918     :  3520.9   21.7   274.5     520    53      74  133  283  104    54
   5 Rebel-Dev              :  3513.2    6.7   269.5     520    52      57  131  277  112    53
   6 CST-2.0                :  3510.9   21.4   268.0     520    52      98  130  276  114    53
   7 Koivisto-9.0           :  3475.6   23.3   245.0     520    47      54  106  278  136    53
   8 Ethereal-14.00-NNUE    :  3474.0   20.9   244.0     520    47      65  105  278  137    53
   9 Clover-6.0             :  3467.1   18.7   239.5     520    46      77   92  295  133    57
  10 Rebel-EAS              :  3460.2   19.6   235.0     520    45      57  104  262  154    50
  11 Caissa-1.13.1          :  3457.8   13.5   233.5     520    45     100  106  255  159    49
  12 Revenge-3.0            :  3429.9    9.6   215.5     520    41      83   90  251  179    48
  13 Igel-3.5.0             :  3422.0   10.9   210.5     520    40      54   77  267  176    51
  14 rofChade-3.1           :  3421.2   10.0   210.0     520    40     ---   80  260  180    50

                               Total Games : 3640
                               White Wins  : 1569 (43.1%)
                               Black Wins  :  207 (5.7%)
                               Draws       : 1864 (51.2%)
Remarks

1. Playing robin rounds only, meaning every engine plays against every engine.

2. Draw rate dropped to 51.2%

3. More games will be played but as I have noticed not much has changed after 150 games each.

4. Stockfish 16 massively profited, the elo difference with number two is 192 elo. As for a wild guess, Stockfish has a much bigger net based on more than 100 billion positions, see here.

5. Within a couple of days I will start a second ADRL based on short time control 40/120 and it is expected the elo gap between Stockfish and its runner-up will shrink.

6. By no means this is criticism on other rating lists who play from more balanced positions. The ADRL just sends a message there are alternatives to the ever increasing draw rate between top engines. Such as Stefan Pohl excellent initiative with his UHO rating list also does, much lower draw rates.

7. Will post next time in the correct sub-forum, this is an announcement only.
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Re: First release ADRL Blitz List

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The below continually updated Top 15 round-robin using SPCC Anti-Draw unbalanced openings has been going since August.

https://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/Chess324/index.html
White wins: 8'723 (41.5%)
Black wins: 988 (4.7%)
Draws: 11'289 (53.8%)
White score: 68.4%
When a new version is released, the previous version is removed, so a replacement approach. It is about to be updated with Komodo 3.3.

I'm not seeing here the Elo spread that you are seeing however. For example I have a 102 Elo gap between Stockfish and Berserk. If using Ordo, that gap is probably around +130.
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Cool....
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Rebel wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:57 amCool....
But not real chess :mrgreen:
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Modern Times wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:12 am The below continually updated Top 15 round-robin using SPCC Anti-Draw unbalanced openings has been going since August.

https://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/Chess324/index.html
Chess324 is a subset of FRC and has nothing to do with SPCC openings? Or am I wrong?

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RubiChess wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:46 am
Modern Times wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:12 am The below continually updated Top 15 round-robin using SPCC Anti-Draw unbalanced openings has been going since August.

https://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/Chess324/index.html
Chess324 is a subset of FRC and has nothing to do with SPCC openings? Or am I wrong?

Regards, Andreas
Yes you are wrong :D

https://www.sp-cc.de/anti-draw-openings.htm
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Ah, okay. I didn't know that Stefan created some books based on chess324 positions and reading your page carefully now I noticed that you are playing the SPCC 3-move Chess324_xxl_big_+090_+119 opening book.
Unfortunately the PGNs from your site don't contain information about book moves so I misread the games starting from chess 324 positions.

Regards, Andreas