I Noticed that Berserk 12 performed better than version 11.1 against Chess System Tal
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 24.0/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 1======1=1=========11=======1======11=== 384.00
2 Berserk-11.1-x64-avx2 16.0/40 =0======0=0=========00=======0======00=== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 384.00
40 games played / Tournament is finished
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Berserk12 vs CSTal
Rank Engine Score Be Ch S-B
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 23.5/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · =1==1=1=1===1=======1===========1======= 387.75
2 Chess-System-Tal-2.00-v21-E1019-Elo.opt-avx2 16.5/40 =0==0=0=0===0=======0===========0======= · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 387.75
40 games played / Tournament is finished
Tournament start: 2023.10.28, 00:45:58
Latest update: 2023.10.28, 09:18:23
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Level: 5 Seconds
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Berserk11.1 vs CSTal
Rank Engine Score Be Ch S-B
1 Berserk-11.1-x64-avx2 20.5/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · =1========1==0==1==========0============ 399.75
2 Chess-System-Tal-2.00-v21-E1019-Elo.opt-avx2 19.5/40 =0========0==1==0==========1============ · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 399.75
40 games played / Tournament is finished
Tournament start: 2023.10.28, 00:45:58
Latest update: 2023.10.28, 14:00:26
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Level: 5 Seconds
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 15.9 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
PGN-File: Berserk11.1 vs CSTal.pgn
Table created with: Arena 3.5.
Comparing Berserk 12 vs Berserk 11.1 vs Chess System Tall
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Chessqueen
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
So far at 5 seconds per move they seems equal
Berserk12 Vs Rubichess
Rank Engine Score Be Ru S-B
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 11.5/22 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ========1===10======== 120.75
2 RubiChess-20230918_x86-64-avx2 10.5/22 ========0===01======== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 120.75
22 of 40 games played
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Latest update: 2023.10.28, 17:05:05
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Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
PGN-File: Berserk12 Vs Rubichess.pgn
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
Berserk12 Vs Rubichess
Rank Engine Score Be Ru S-B
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 11.5/22 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ========1===10======== 120.75
2 RubiChess-20230918_x86-64-avx2 10.5/22 ========0===01======== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 120.75
22 of 40 games played
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Latest update: 2023.10.28, 17:05:05
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PGN-File: Berserk12 Vs Rubichess.pgn
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
Probably need 500 games, but this small sample is enough for me to know that they are very close
Opening Book used for all engines SuperGM_4mvs.abk (4 moves deep), which to me top engines do NOT need Opening more than 4 moves deep, since they can search for lines and variations equal or better than any Opening Book which most of the time favor White.
Berserk12 Vs Rubichess
Rank Engine Score Be Ru S-B
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 21.0/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · ========1===10============1============= 399.00
2 RubiChess-20230918_x86-64-avx2 19.0/40 ========0===01============0============= · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 399.00
40 games played / Tournament is finished
Tournament start: 2023.10.28, 14:15:34
Latest update: 2023.10.28, 20:21:48
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-4QNC0GS, United States
Level: 5 Seconds
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 15.9 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
PGN-File: Berserk12 Vs Rubichess.pgn
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
[pgn][Event "Berserk12 Vs Rubichess"] [Site "DESKTOP-4QNC0GS"] [Date "2023.10.28"] [Round "40"] [White "RubiChess-20230918_x86-64-avx2"] [Black "Berserk-12-x64-avx2"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [BlackElo "3510"] [ECO "A57"] [Opening "Benko Gambit"] [Time "19:31:36"] [Variation "4.Nf3"] [WhiteElo "3495"] [TimeControl "0+5"] [Termination "adjudication"] [PlyCount "299"] [WhiteType "program"] [BlackType "program"] 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. c4 b4 5. Nbd2 g6 6. e4 d6 7. e5 dxe5 8. Nxe5 Bg7 9. Be2 Qc7 10. Nd3 Bf5 11. Nb3 Nbd7 12. Bf4 Qb6 13. g4 Bxd3 14. Qxd3 a5 15. Nd2 a4 16. Rb1 O-O 17. Bg3 e6 18. O-O Qa6 19. Rbd1 h6 20. h4 exd5 21. g5 hxg5 22. hxg5 Nh7 23. Qxd5 Rad8 24. Bc7 Rc8 25. Bf4 Rfe8 26. Rfe1 Nb6 27. Qh1 Rcd8 28. Qc6 Bxb2 29. Bf3 Rxe1+ 30. Rxe1 Bc3 31. Qxc5 Nf8 32. Ne4 Rc8 33. Qe7 Qxc4 34. Be5 Nd5 35. Qd6 Bxe5 36. Qxe5 Nd7 37. Qd6 N7b6 38. Kg2 Qc7 39. Nf6+ Nxf6 40. Qxf6 Qc3 41. Re4 Qxf6 42. gxf6 b3 43. axb3 axb3 44. Bd1 b2 45. Rb4 Nd7 46. Rxb2 Rc1 47. Ba4 Nxf6 48. Rb7 Ng4 49. Bb3 Nh6 50. f3 Rc3 51. Kg3 Rc1 52. Ba2 Rc2 53. Bb1 Re2 54. Be4 Rd2 55. Ra7 Kg7 56. Bb1 Rb2 57. Be4 Rb5 58. Kf4 Rb4 59. Kg3 Rd4 60. Rb7 Rd6 61. Bb1 Rc6 62. Be4 Rd6 63. Bb1 Kf6 64. Kf4 Rd4+ 65. Kg3 Ng8 66. Rb6+ Kg7 67. Rb7 Rd2 68. Ra7 Rd4 69. Ba2 Nh6 70. Bb1 Kf6 71. Be4 Ng8 72. Kf2 Kg7 73. Bb1 Rh4 74. Ba2 Nh6 75. Kg3 Rd4 76. Bb1 Rd2 77. Kf4 Rg2 78. Ke3 Kf6 79. Kf4 Kg7 80. Be4 Rf2 81. Bb1 Rb2 82. Ba2 Rb5 83. Kg3 Rh5 84. Rb7 Rg5+ 85. Kf2 Rc5 86. Kg3 Rc6 87. Bb1 Rc1 88. Be4 Rd1 89. Bb1 Rd2 90. Ra7 Rb2 91. Be4 Rb5 92. Rb7 Ra5 93. Rd7 Rc5 94. Kf4 Rc4 95. Kg3 Rc1 96. Kf4 Rg1 97. Ke3 Ra1 98. Bd3 g5 99. Be4 Kf6 100. Rd6+ Kg7 101. Rd7 Ra6 102. Kf2 Kf6 103. Rd5 Ra3 104. Kg3 Ra6 105. Kf2 Re6 106. Kg3 Re5 107. Rd8 Kg7 108. Rd7 Rc5 109. Rb7 Ng8 110. Bb1 Kf6 111. Rb6+ Kg7 112. f4 gxf4+ 113. Kxf4 Ra5 114. Rb7 Ra6 115. Bc2 Ra5 116. Bb3 Nh6 117. Bxf7 Nxf7 118. Kg3 Rc5 119. Ra7 Rc4 120. Kf2 Rc3 121. Ke2 Kf6 122. Kf2 Ng5 123. Ra6+ Kf5 124. Ke2 Ne6 125. Ra7 Ke4 126. Kd2 Rd3+ 127. Kc1 Nf4 128. Kc2 Rh3 129. Ra4+ Kf5 130. Ra8 Ke4 131. Ra4+ Kf5 132. Ra8 Ke5 133. Rb8 Nd5 134. Ra8 Nc7 135. Rg8 Nd5 136. Kd2 Ke4 137. Kc2 Kd4 138. Kb2 Nb4 139. Rd8+ Nd5 140. Kc2 Ra3 141. Kb2 Ra6 142. Kc2 Rb6 143. Kc1 Rh6 144. Kb2 Rb6+ 145. Kc2 Rb7 146. Kc1 Rh7 147. Kc2 Rb7 148. Kc1 Rb4 149. Rg8 Kd3 150. Rc8 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
Opening Book used for all engines SuperGM_4mvs.abk (4 moves deep), which to me top engines do NOT need Opening more than 4 moves deep, since they can search for lines and variations equal or better than any Opening Book which most of the time favor White.
Berserk12 Vs Rubichess
Rank Engine Score Be Ru S-B
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 21.0/40 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · ========1===10============1============= 399.00
2 RubiChess-20230918_x86-64-avx2 19.0/40 ========0===01============0============= · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 399.00
40 games played / Tournament is finished
Tournament start: 2023.10.28, 14:15:34
Latest update: 2023.10.28, 20:21:48
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-4QNC0GS, United States
Level: 5 Seconds
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 15.9 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
PGN-File: Berserk12 Vs Rubichess.pgn
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
[pgn][Event "Berserk12 Vs Rubichess"] [Site "DESKTOP-4QNC0GS"] [Date "2023.10.28"] [Round "40"] [White "RubiChess-20230918_x86-64-avx2"] [Black "Berserk-12-x64-avx2"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [BlackElo "3510"] [ECO "A57"] [Opening "Benko Gambit"] [Time "19:31:36"] [Variation "4.Nf3"] [WhiteElo "3495"] [TimeControl "0+5"] [Termination "adjudication"] [PlyCount "299"] [WhiteType "program"] [BlackType "program"] 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. c4 b4 5. Nbd2 g6 6. e4 d6 7. e5 dxe5 8. Nxe5 Bg7 9. Be2 Qc7 10. Nd3 Bf5 11. Nb3 Nbd7 12. Bf4 Qb6 13. g4 Bxd3 14. Qxd3 a5 15. Nd2 a4 16. Rb1 O-O 17. Bg3 e6 18. O-O Qa6 19. Rbd1 h6 20. h4 exd5 21. g5 hxg5 22. hxg5 Nh7 23. Qxd5 Rad8 24. Bc7 Rc8 25. Bf4 Rfe8 26. Rfe1 Nb6 27. Qh1 Rcd8 28. Qc6 Bxb2 29. Bf3 Rxe1+ 30. Rxe1 Bc3 31. Qxc5 Nf8 32. Ne4 Rc8 33. Qe7 Qxc4 34. Be5 Nd5 35. Qd6 Bxe5 36. Qxe5 Nd7 37. Qd6 N7b6 38. Kg2 Qc7 39. Nf6+ Nxf6 40. Qxf6 Qc3 41. Re4 Qxf6 42. gxf6 b3 43. axb3 axb3 44. Bd1 b2 45. Rb4 Nd7 46. Rxb2 Rc1 47. Ba4 Nxf6 48. Rb7 Ng4 49. Bb3 Nh6 50. f3 Rc3 51. Kg3 Rc1 52. Ba2 Rc2 53. Bb1 Re2 54. Be4 Rd2 55. Ra7 Kg7 56. Bb1 Rb2 57. Be4 Rb5 58. Kf4 Rb4 59. Kg3 Rd4 60. Rb7 Rd6 61. Bb1 Rc6 62. Be4 Rd6 63. Bb1 Kf6 64. Kf4 Rd4+ 65. Kg3 Ng8 66. Rb6+ Kg7 67. Rb7 Rd2 68. Ra7 Rd4 69. Ba2 Nh6 70. Bb1 Kf6 71. Be4 Ng8 72. Kf2 Kg7 73. Bb1 Rh4 74. Ba2 Nh6 75. Kg3 Rd4 76. Bb1 Rd2 77. Kf4 Rg2 78. Ke3 Kf6 79. Kf4 Kg7 80. Be4 Rf2 81. Bb1 Rb2 82. Ba2 Rb5 83. Kg3 Rh5 84. Rb7 Rg5+ 85. Kf2 Rc5 86. Kg3 Rc6 87. Bb1 Rc1 88. Be4 Rd1 89. Bb1 Rd2 90. Ra7 Rb2 91. Be4 Rb5 92. Rb7 Ra5 93. Rd7 Rc5 94. Kf4 Rc4 95. Kg3 Rc1 96. Kf4 Rg1 97. Ke3 Ra1 98. Bd3 g5 99. Be4 Kf6 100. Rd6+ Kg7 101. Rd7 Ra6 102. Kf2 Kf6 103. Rd5 Ra3 104. Kg3 Ra6 105. Kf2 Re6 106. Kg3 Re5 107. Rd8 Kg7 108. Rd7 Rc5 109. Rb7 Ng8 110. Bb1 Kf6 111. Rb6+ Kg7 112. f4 gxf4+ 113. Kxf4 Ra5 114. Rb7 Ra6 115. Bc2 Ra5 116. Bb3 Nh6 117. Bxf7 Nxf7 118. Kg3 Rc5 119. Ra7 Rc4 120. Kf2 Rc3 121. Ke2 Kf6 122. Kf2 Ng5 123. Ra6+ Kf5 124. Ke2 Ne6 125. Ra7 Ke4 126. Kd2 Rd3+ 127. Kc1 Nf4 128. Kc2 Rh3 129. Ra4+ Kf5 130. Ra8 Ke4 131. Ra4+ Kf5 132. Ra8 Ke5 133. Rb8 Nd5 134. Ra8 Nc7 135. Rg8 Nd5 136. Kd2 Ke4 137. Kc2 Kd4 138. Kb2 Nb4 139. Rd8+ Nd5 140. Kc2 Ra3 141. Kb2 Ra6 142. Kc2 Rb6 143. Kc1 Rh6 144. Kb2 Rb6+ 145. Kc2 Rb7 146. Kc1 Rh7 147. Kc2 Rb7 148. Kc1 Rb4 149. Rg8 Kd3 150. Rc8 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
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Ciekce
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
NoChessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:28 am this small sample is enough for me to know that they are very close
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
You got it be kidding count all the games of these 4 matches = total 160 games played which is more than your small sample of 150 gamesCiekce wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:43 amNoChessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:28 am this small sample is enough for me to know that they are very close
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
You got it be kidding count all the games of these 4 matches = total 160 games played which is more than a small statistical sample of 150 games. But if you are NOT satisfied you are welcome to continue, all these engines are available for FREE and you have a Computer to continue it.Ciekce wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:43 amNoChessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:28 am this small sample is enough for me to know that they are very close
NOTE: Let us know what you found out in a week from now when you are done playing thousands of games and burn at least $30.00 of electricity
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
'Your engine is almost equal to Pawn 2.0 in strength, do you belief that I need 1000 games to prove it ?Ciekce wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:43 amNoChessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:28 am this small sample is enough for me to know that they are very close
Stormphrax vs Pawn 2.0
Rank Engine Score St Pa S-B
1 Stormphrax-2.0.0-avx2 (2) 8.5/17 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· =011=0==10=1====0 72.25
1 Pawn_2.0_win_haswell 8.5/17 =100=1==01=0====1 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 72.25
17 of 500 games played
Tournament start: 2023.10.28, 23:49:31
Latest update: 2023.10.29, 00:48:36
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Level: 1 Second
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PGN-File: Stormphrax vs Pawn 2.0.pgn
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Re: Comparing Berserk 12 vs Rubichess
Chessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:53 am'Your engine is almost equal to Pawn 2.0 in strength rated around 3275 probably, do you belief that I need 1000 games to prove it ?Ciekce wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:43 amNoChessqueen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:28 am this small sample is enough for me to know that they are very close
Stormphrax vs Pawn 2.0
Rank Engine Score St Pa S-B
1 Stormphrax-2.0.0-avx2 (2) 29.0/57 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · =011=0==10=1====011=01=100==0=1====1==101=0========01==0= 812.00
2 Pawn_2.0_win_haswell 28.0/57 =100=1==01=0====100=10=011==1=0====0==010=1========10==1= · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· · 812.00
57 of 500 games played
Tournament start: 2023.10.28, 23:49:31
Latest update: 2023.10.29, 00:48:36
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-4QNC0GS, United States
Level: 1 Second
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Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
PGN-File: Stormphrax vs Pawn 2.0.pgn
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1