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Chessqueen
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Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:45 am
I decided to play 300 games versus Rainman until I figured how beat it most of the times. I will continue paying against Rainman until I reach at least 1000 games this is my way of improving
NOTE: After I reached 200 games I started improving and my human mind started figuring how to beat it most of the times. Engines have certain style and way of playing but the human mind learn how to adjust.
[pgn][Event "Beating Rainman"]
[Round "200"]
[White "Rainman"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[ECO "A03"]
[Opening "Bird Opening"]
[Time "21:18:50"]
[Variation "1...d5"]
[WhiteElo "1582"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "109"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]
1. f4 d5 2. d3 Nf6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nbd2 Ng4 5. c3 Ne3 6. Qb3 Nc6 7. Kf2 Nxf1
8. Rxf1 e6 9. e3 a5 10. a4 Bd6 11. c4 Be7 12. Qb5 O-O 13. Kg1 Nb4 14. cxd5
exd5 15. d4 Nc2 16. Ra2 Nxe3 17. Re1 Nc2 18. Rf1 Nb4 19. Ra3 b6 20. Ne5 Ba6
21. Qd7 Bxf1 22. Nxf1 Qxd7 23. Nxd7 Nc6 24. Rd3 Rfd8 25. Ne5 Nxe5 26. dxe5
c6 27. Be3 Rab8 28. Nd2 b5 29. axb5 Rxb5 30. b3 h5 31. g3 Rb4 32. Nf3 Rdb8
33. Nd2 a4 34. bxa4 Rxa4 35. Nf1 Ra1 36. Bd4 Ra2 37. Rc3 Rb4 38. Bf2 Rb1
39. Rf3 c5 40. h3 Raa1 41. Be3 Ra3 42. f5 Bg5 43. Kg2 Rbb3 44. fxg6 fxg6
45. e6 d4 46. Bxg5 Rxf3 47. Bc1 Rab3 48. Bf4 Rfd3 49. g4 Rb2+ 50. Kg1 Rd1
51. e7 Kf7 52. gxh5 gxh5 53. Bg5 Rbb1 54. Kg2 Rxf1 55. Kg3 {Arena
Adjudication} 0-1[/pgn]
JohnW
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Location: New Hampshire
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by JohnW » Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:22 pm
Now do that with Stockfish 16
Chessqueen
Posts: 5685 Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
Location: Moving
Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:26 pm
JohnW wrote: ↑ Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:22 pm
Now do that with Stockfish 16
Next game I will beat Stockfish with a Queen Odds
[pgn][Event "Beating Rainman"]
[Round "233"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Rainman"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "1620"]
[ECO "A03"]
[Opening "Bird Opening"]
[Time "08:18:35"]
[Variation "1.f4 d5 2.g3"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "120"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. g3 d5 2. f4 Nc6 3. Bg2 e5 4. fxe5 Nxe5 5. d4 Nc6 6. Nc3 Bb4 7. Qd3 Nge7
8. Nf3 Bf5 9. Qd2 Qd7 10. a3 Bxc3 11. Qxc3 Ng6 12. Be3 O-O 13. O-O-O Rae8
14. Rhf1 Qe6 15. Ng5 Qd7 16. Nf3 Re7 17. Ng1 Rfe8 18. Bf2 Bg4 19. Qb3 Bxe2
20. Nxe2 Rxe2 21. Qxd5 Qxd5 22. Bxd5 Rd8 23. Bf3 Re7 24. d5 Nce5 25. Bxa7
Nxf3 26. Rxf3 b6 27. d6 Red7 28. Rfd3 Rxd6 29. Rxd6 Rxd6 30. Rxd6 cxd6 31.
Bxb6 f5 32. Bc7 d5 33. b4 Nf8 34. h4 Ne6 35. Bf4 Nd4 36. c3 Ne2+ 37. Kd2
Nxf4 38. gxf4 Kf8 39. Kd3 Ke7 40. Kd4 Kd6 41. h5 Ke6 42. b5 Kd6 43. a4 Kc7
44. Kxd5 g6 45. h6 Kb6 46. c4 Kc7 47. c5 g5 48. b6+ Kb7 49. fxg5 Ka6 50.
Ke5 f4 51. Kxf4 Kb7 52. a5 Ka6 53. c6 Kxa5 54. c7 Kxb6 55. c8=Q Kb5 56. g6
hxg6 57. h7 g5+ 58. Kxg5 Ka5 59. h8=Q Kb6 60. Qb2+ Ka7 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]
Chessqueen
Posts: 5685 Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
Location: Moving
Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:44 pm
Next game I will beat Stockfish with a Queen Odds, but you will have to beat it with a Rook Odds, since you might be much better than I am
[pgn][Event "Stockfish Queens Odds"]
[Date "2023.11.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3550"]
[Time "08:27:44"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "45"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 d5 3. exd5 Nf6 4. Bc4 Bd6 5. Qe2 O-O 6. dxe6 Bxe6 7. d4
Bxc4 8. Qxc4 Nbd7 9. Nf3 Nb6 10. Qd3 Rfe8+ 11. Be3 c6 12. O-O h6 13. a4
Rad8 14. a5 Nbd5 15. Nxd5 Nxd5 16. c4 Nxe3 17. fxe3 Re7 18. e4 c5 19. d5
Bf4 20. a6 b6 21. g4 f6 22. h4 Rde8 23. Rfe1 Kh8 24. h5 b5 25. Nh4 bxc4 26.
Ng6+ Kh7 27. Qxc4 Bd6 28. Qb5 c4 29. Nxe7 Rxe7 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]
Chessqueen
Posts: 5685 Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
Location: Moving
Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:49 pm
JohnW wrote: ↑ Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:22 pm
Now do that with Stockfish 16
Since you did NOT give me the Odds to play against Stockfish and NOT even Magnus can beat it with a Knight Odds at 3/2; I took it upon myself to get a Rook + Knight Odds
[pgn][Event "Rook+Knight Odds"]
[Date "2023.11.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2y"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3555"]
[Time "05:42:46"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2bqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQk - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "70"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. Nf3 f5 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 e6 4. e3 Bb4 5. Bd2 O-O 6. Bd3 b6 7. a3 Bxc3 8.
Bxc3 d6 9. O-O h6 10. b4 Bb7 11. b5 Nh7 12. a4 Rf7 13. a5 Be4 14. Bc4 Bd5
15. Be2 Bb7 16. a6 Be4 17. Nd2 Ba8 18. Bh5 Rf8 19. Qe2 Nf6 20. Bb4 Nxh5 21.
Qxh5 Qe8 22. Qxe8 Rxe8 23. h4 Kh7 24. c4 Rd8 25. f4 Kg6 26. g3 Kh5 27. Rfd1
Kg4 28. Kf2 Rd7 29. Re1 Rd8 30. Rac1 c5 31. Bc3 Kh5 32. dxc5 bxc5 33. Nb3
d5 34. Nxc5 Re8 35. Bxg7 dxc4 {Black resigns} *[/pgn]
Chessqueen
Posts: 5685 Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
Location: Moving
Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:31 pm
I decided to see if I could beat Rainman with this Odds setup
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Date "2023.11.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Rainman"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "1582"]
[Time "10:54:05"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "1nbqkbn1/3ppp2/8/8/8/8/3PPP2/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "160"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. Rh8 Qc7 2. Nc3 Nh6 3. e3 Bb7 4. Rb1 Nc6 5. Ba3 Qa5 6. Rxb7 Qxa3 7. Nf3
Qc1+ 8. Nd1 Qa1 9. Rb2 f5 10. Rh7 Ng4 11. Nd4 Nf6 12. Rh8 Kf7 13. Nxc6 dxc6
14. Bd3 Bg7 15. Rh4 Ne4 16. Rb1 Qf6 17. Rf4 Nd6 18. Nc3 e6 19. Ne4 Nxe4 20.
Bxe4 Bh6 21. Rf3 Qh4 22. Bd3 c5 23. Rb7+ Kf6 24. Rb6 Ke7 25. Bf1 Qa4 26.
Rh3 Qa1+ 27. Ke2 Qa7 28. Rb1 Qa2 29. Rc1 Qa3 30. Rb1 Qa2 31. Rb8 Qa6+ 32.
d3 e5 33. Kf3 Kf7 34. Rb1 f4 35. e4 Qd6 36. Rb7+ Kg8 37. Rh1 Bf8 38. Rg1+
Kh8 39. Be2 Qh6 40. Kg2 Qg6+ 41. Kf1 Qd6 42. Rh1+ Kg8 43. Rhh7 f3 44. Bxf3
Qxd3+ 45. Kg2 Qa6 46. Rhc7 Qg6+ 47. Kf1 Qh6 48. Rb8 Qc1+ 49. Kg2 Qg5+ 50.
Kh2 Qh6+ 51. Kg1 Qg5+ 52. Bg2 Qc1+ 53. Bf1 Qg5+ 54. Kh2 Qh4+ 55. Bh3 Qxf2+
56. Bg2 Qf4+ 57. Kg1 Qc1+ 58. Kf2 c4 59. Rcc8 Qd2+ 60. Kf3 Qf4+ 61. Ke2 Qc1
62. Rxf8+ Kg7 63. Rg8+ Kf6 64. Rb6+ Kf7 65. Rd8 Qa3 66. Bf3 Qa2+ 67. Rd2
Qa5 68. Rb7+ Kf8 69. Rdd7 Qa2+ 70. Kf1 Qa8 71. Be2 Qc8 72. Rf7+ Ke8 73.
Rbe7+ Kd8 74. Rf8+ Kxe7 75. Rxc8 c3 76. Rxc3 Kd6 77. Rb3 Kc5 78. Rd3 Kb5
79. Rd5+ Kc6 80. Rxe5 Kd6 1-0[/pgn]
Chessqueen
Posts: 5685 Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
Location: Moving
Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:18 pm
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DESKTOP-4QNC0GS"]
[Date "2023.11.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Rainman"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "1620"]
[Time "12:35:45"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "147"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e3 e6 2. Nf3 Be7 3. Bd3 Nf6 4. O-O Nc6 5. b3 Nb4 6. Ba3 c5 7. Bxb4 cxb4
8. c3 d5 9. a3 Qa5 10. cxb4 Bxb4 11. Ra2 Bd7 12. g3 b5 13. Ne5 a6 14. Rc1
Bd6 15. Nxd7 Kxd7 16. Be2 e5 17. d4 exd4 18. exd4 Qb6 19. Rd2 g6 20. b4 Ne4
21. Rd3 f5 22. f3 Nf6 23. Nd2 a5 24. bxa5 Qxa5 25. Nb1 Ke6 26. Rcd1 f4 27.
Rb3 Qa4 28. Rxb5 fxg3 29. hxg3 Bxg3 30. Rb4 Qc2 31. Rd2 Qc1+ 32. Bd1 Bd6
33. Rb6 Nh5 34. a4 Nf4 35. a5 h5 36. a6 Qc7 37. Rdb2 g5 38. Kh1 h4 39. Kg1
h3 40. R6b3 Qc4 41. Re3+ Kf5 42. a7 Qxd4 43. a8=Q Qxe3+ 44. Kf1 Qc1 45. Rd2
Qxb1 46. Rxd5+ Ke6 47. Rd2 Be7 48. Qg8+ Kf6 49. Kg1 Qc1 50. Qh8+ Kf7 51.
Qh7+ Ke8 52. Qh8+ Bf8 53. Qe5+ Be7 54. Rd4 Kf8 55. Qh8+ Kf7 56. Qh7+ Kf6
57. Qh8+ Ke6 58. Re4+ Kd7 59. Qd4+ Bd6 60. Re5 Kc7 61. Qa7+ Kd8 62. Qa8+
Kd7 63. Qa7+ Bc7 64. Qa4+ Kd6 65. Qd4+ Kc6 66. Qe4+ Kd7 67. Re7+ Kd8 68.
Re8+ Kd7 69. Qa4+ Qc6 70. Re7+ Kd6 71. Qb4+ Kd5 72. Bb3+ Qc4 73. Qxc4+ Kd6
74. Qxc7# *[/pgn]
Chessqueen
Posts: 5685 Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
Location: Moving
Full name: Jorge Picado
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by Chessqueen » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:31 pm
Almost won this game
[pgn][Event "Queen vs 2 Rooks"]
[Date "2023.11.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "ChessQueen"]
[Black "Rainman"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "1582"]
[Time "16:25:04"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBN1 w kq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "97"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. Nc3 e6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. e4 Bb4 4. e5 Ng4 5. Nb5 Ba5 6. h3 Nh6 7. b4 a6 8.
bxa5 axb5 9. Bxb5 Rxa5 10. Bc4 b5 11. Bb3 Nc6 12. d4 Nf5 13. d5 exd5 14.
Qxd5 O-O 15. Qd3 Nfe7 16. Bd2 b4 17. Qe4 Rb5 18. Bc4 Rc5 19. Bd3 Ng6 20.
Bxb4 Nxb4 21. Qxb4 d6 22. exd6 cxd6 23. Kd2 Be6 24. Qb6 Rfc8 25. a4 Bc4 26.
Qxd6 Bxd3 27. Qxd3 Nf4 28. Qb3 Nxg2 29. Nd4 Rc4 30. Nf5 Rxc2+ 31. Qxc2
Rxc2+ 32. Kxc2 Nf4 33. a5 Nd5 34. Kb3 Nc7 35. Kc4 Kf8 36. Kc5 g6 37. Ne3
Ke8 38. Kd6 Kd8 39. f4 Kc8 40. f5 gxf5 41. Nxf5 Kb7 42. h4 Ne6 43. Ke7 Ka6
44. Kxf7 Nf4 45. Kg7 h5 46. Kf6 Ng2 47. Kg5 Nxh4 48. Kxh4 Kxa5 49. Kxh5
{Insufficient material} *[/pgn]
lkaufman
Posts: 6276 Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:15 am
Location: Maryland USA
Full name: Larry Kaufman
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by lkaufman » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:17 am
Chessqueen wrote: ↑ Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:49 pm
JohnW wrote: ↑ Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:22 pm
Now do that with Stockfish 16
Since you did NOT give me the Odds to play against Stockfish and NOT even Magnus can beat it with a Knight Odds at 3/2
What is the basis of this statement? Have there actually been games where Magnus took knight odds in blitz from Stockfish? As far as I know, no engine has beaten anyone over 2700 FIDE giving knight odds in blitz; do you know otherwise?
Komodo rules!