Looking for a tool ... may interesting for Norm Pollock

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Looking for a tool ... may interesting for Norm Pollock

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Hi there,

at the moment I have contact with a russian chess coach, he checked the database from my last tournament. He saw all the long games, first thing he does is copy all the games below move number 80 into a new database and look for lines for the opening he likes most. He wrote, no time for it looking in all the typical long computer chess engine games.

Found 14, great for an analysis with maybe new interesting lines found by engines.

:-)

So, I think about a tool that can do this ...

Step 1:
Truncate (maybe a job for Norm Pollock) if one of the engines are more than 5 moves evaluate with 0.00 if the final result = draw.

Step 2:
Truncate if both engines are more than 15 moves evaluate with -0.50 - +0.50 and the final result of the game = draw.

Step 3:
The tool should set a hint to the last position from the game (truncate with: ... name of the tool).

Good to have if a comp database is given to stronger chess players.

This one is perfect:

Step 4:
Games, a longer time (maybe 15 moves), the evaluation is -0.50 - +0.50 ended with 1:0 or 0:1 with more than 80 moves copied into a new database.

Such a tool is important today because the tools have a lot to do.
Can more easily find the endgame blunder. Can check contempt settings!
But in the time of neural networks such things are more and more rare.

Best
Frank
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Re: Looking for a tool ... may interesting for Norm Pollock

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If interesting for Norm Pollock ...

Norm can give the tool the name: Clearing-comp-games ... or what he like.

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Re: Looking for a tool ... may interesting for Norm Pollock

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Hi there,

for others have interest on the programming.

A good database is my last tournament (FCP-Tourney-2024).
Can be found here: https://www.amateurschach.de/download/_ ... y-2024.zip

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Re: Looking for a tool ... may interesting for Norm Pollock

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Loud thinking:

Furthermore, we can see directly in how many games "for each engine" this tool set a comment on the end of the games (truncate with ...).
A bit more intelligent from the cummunity to present comp databases if we have such a tool.

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Re: Looking for a tool ... may interesting for Norm Pollock

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I think the tool will also have a lot to do with resign=on games.

In general:
Resign=on ... worst case scenario for so many reasons.

We can clean games after and not while they are running!

So the end result is 100% clean and we can have a perfect simulation of chess programmings. I always think that also with Eng-Eng tournaments we present the teamwork of programmers to all normal chess players all over the world. I think this was a comment by Carlos E.A. Drake (Argentina) in Winboard Times. And the games should be very clear if chess players want to use the games for their own training, opening books or statistics.

Again, it is time for such a tool!
Perhaps others have additional ideas?