RubiChess with old net?

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Werner
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RubiChess with old net?

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The net included in the download version RubiChess-20240112 is from August 2023 - so no new network included?
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Re: RubiChess with old net?

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I didn't check the net other than to note that there was one. I'll check which one it is when I access my machine again. But I got +24 Elo out of it anyway.
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Re: RubiChess with old net?

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Thanks, we just got the answer from Andreas: correct - no new network!
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Re: RubiChess with old net?

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Yes when I downloaded RubiChess on my machine, it asked me if I wanted to replace the old network with new one, same name and same seize...
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Re: RubiChess with old net?

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Andreas what is optimal Time Usage for RubiChess. I used Default 100 and lost on time after only 70 moves in draw position.

Shall I raise Move Overhead to 500 or 1000 like Stockfish does ?
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Hi Damir,

what the RubiChess programmers are doing is very nice:
https://github.com/Matthies/NN

I also saw this and check and second the NN site.
I can't see any newer NN file.

Often I also look here for my opening analyses.
RubiChess is one of my TOP-10 engines for opening analyses.

Logically, the programmer can give the best answer.
Have fun with RubiChess!

Best
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Re: RubiChess with old net?

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Damir wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:53 pm Andreas what is optimal Time Usage for RubiChess. I used Default 100 and lost on time after only 70 moves in draw position.

Shall I raise Move Overhead to 500 or 1000 like Stockfish does ?
The problem is not about time usage of RubiChess, it is (usually) about the GUI stealing time from the engines.
Arena and ChessGUI are known for stealing a lot of time (and even Fritz? There was some report about a commercial GUI with this problem but I don't remember exactly) like 500ms or even more while others like Cutechess(-cli) limit this move overhead to < 10ms.

Rubi measures the overhead of the GUI and warns if this measured overhead is near or even exceeds the value of the Move Overhead option:

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            if (measuredOverhead > moveOverhead / 2)
            {
                if (measuredOverhead > moveOverhead)
                    guiCom << "info string Measured GUI overhead is " + to_string(measuredOverhead) + "ms and time forfeits are very likely. Please increase Move_Overhead option!\n";
                else
                    guiCom << "info string Measured GUI overhead is " + to_string(measuredOverhead) + "ms (> 50% of allowed via Move_Overhead option).\n";
            }
So you should look for messages like this in your UCI log and set the Move Overhead option to a value matching your GUI.

Regards, Andreas