LC0 at position 10-11 in current TCEC and CCC tournaments

Jouni · Post by **Jouni** » Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:13 am

This is Lc0 current level. OK needs better hardware? Only 2xA100 and 8x NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090

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AndrewGrant · Post by **AndrewGrant** » Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:28 am

Improper build at CCC. Corrected, and event to be replayed due to that + other external issues when updating the CCC infrastructure.

Jouni · Post by **Jouni** » Thu Dec 25, 2025 7:14 pm

It has improved! Now position 3 at TCEC and 5 at CCC. Obsidian leading TCEC but got free win when Ceres crashed.

Jouni · Post by **Jouni** » Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:51 am

I was wrong. Lc0 clear 2 in TCEC again

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FireDragon761138 · Post by **FireDragon761138** » Wed Dec 31, 2025 4:39 pm

Lc0 and minimax engines are like apples and oranges. Not only do they look and taste different, they are fundamentally different things.
Minimax engines will probably always be better navigating sharp tactics, but they won't give you the kind of detailed information about the actual value of a position in terms of winning chances.

Jouni · Post by **Jouni** » Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:46 pm

Problem with Lc0 is the need for 8 RTX 5090. Price some 20 000 €. You get same Stockfish performance with Ryzen 7 9800X3D at 500 €.

Jouni · Post by **Jouni** » Mon Jan 05, 2026 3:17 pm

CCC semifinals after 52 games:

Stockfish 30/52
Torch 26.5/52
Reckless 26.5/52
Obsidian 25.5/52
PlentyChess 24.5/52
Lc0 23/52

LC0 at position 10-11 in current TCEC and CCC tournaments

LC0 at position 10-11 in current TCEC and CCC tournaments

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