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Triumviratus 8.1 released

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Triumviratus 8.1 released

Triumviratus 8.1 is out. It is the official release that follows 8.0 and the 8.1 pre-releases of the last weeks.

While 8.1 was being prepared, Triumviratus 8.0 kept doing well on the CCRL lists of 7 November: on 40/15 it shares first place on 4 CPUs with Stockfish 19 (3650) and is first among the single-CPU engines (3635), on Blitz it is second (3784), and on the 40/2 FRC list it is second (4104).

Strength (UHO 2024 openings, 1 thread, large pages enabled for both engines):
  • against Triumviratus 8.0: +21.5 +- 6.7 Elo over 2,508 games at 15+0.15
  • against Stockfish 19: +0.3 +- 3.3 Elo over 8,860 games at 60+0.6
The Consilium Plebis network is large (about 250 MB), so without large pages Triumviratus loses more speed than Stockfish 19: on a PC without them the result can be lower. The README explains how to enable them.

What is new
  • Network: Consilium Plebis, with input buckets chosen separately for each side by the opponent's non-pawn material (the project calls them "experts"; the idea comes from the mixture-of-experts models of language AI), and a small pawn-king subnetwork added to every layer stack. Alone it is worth about +10 Elo over the 8.0 network.
  • Search: every block rewritten in the project's own code, a quiet history that learns as a listwise ranker, and several changes measured one by one.
  • Speed: faster evaluation and move ordering, with contributions from Houze Guo (AVX2, AVX-VNNI and AVX-512) and A Tin Man (move generator). The universal executable now carries each build exactly as it was optimised alone, each with its own PGO profile, built with clang 23.
  • Fixes: the universal executable runs again on CPUs without AVX (issue #10), an 8 MB thread stack on every platform (issue #9), 64-bit Zobrist keys, and the fixes from the code review by Bastiii.
The techniques that are new to our knowledge are listed in NOVELTIES.md.

Files: one Windows executable for every x86-64 CPU (from SSE4.1 to AVX-512, the best build is chosen at start-up), Linux builds for any distribution, and macOS builds for Apple Silicon and Intel.

Position Solver: the 8.1 analysis build for hard positions is also released. On Eduard Nemeth's "256 difficult positions 2023" at 10 s per position, Maurizio Platino measured 173 solved with the Position Solver of 28 October, against 154 for ShashChess 42 and 146 for Stockfish 19. It is made for solving and analysing positions, not for games.

Thanks to Maurizio Platino (MortalSin), the project's main tester and search-tuner, who also shares the cost of training the networks; to Houze Guo, A Tin Man and Bastiii for their code; to Mark Tang for his testing and reports during development; and to CCRL and the whole computer chess community.

Triumviratus is becoming a community project: anyone who would like to join the Discord server can contact me.

Francesco

Download Triumviratus 8.1
Download Triumviratus 8.1 Position Solver
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Chacal X
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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

Post by Chacal X »

NathanDrake wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2026 2:28 pm Triumviratus 8.1 released

Triumviratus 8.1 is out. It is the official release that follows 8.0 and the 8.1 pre-releases of the last weeks.

While 8.1 was being prepared, Triumviratus 8.0 kept doing well on the CCRL lists of 7 November: on 40/15 it shares first place on 4 CPUs with Stockfish 19 (3650) and is first among the single-CPU engines (3635), on Blitz it is second (3784), and on the 40/2 FRC list it is second (4104).

Strength (UHO 2024 openings, 1 thread, large pages enabled for both engines):
  • against Triumviratus 8.0: +21.5 +- 6.7 Elo over 2,508 games at 15+0.15
  • against Stockfish 19: +0.3 +- 3.3 Elo over 8,860 games at 60+0.6
The Consilium Plebis network is large (about 250 MB), so without large pages Triumviratus loses more speed than Stockfish 19: on a PC without them the result can be lower. The README explains how to enable them.

What is new
  • Network: Consilium Plebis, with input buckets chosen separately for each side by the opponent's non-pawn material (the project calls them "experts"; the idea comes from the mixture-of-experts models of language AI), and a small pawn-king subnetwork added to every layer stack. Alone it is worth about +10 Elo over the 8.0 network.
  • Search: every block rewritten in the project's own code, a quiet history that learns as a listwise ranker, and several changes measured one by one.
  • Speed: faster evaluation and move ordering, with contributions from Houze Guo (AVX2, AVX-VNNI and AVX-512) and A Tin Man (move generator). The universal executable now carries each build exactly as it was optimised alone, each with its own PGO profile, built with clang 23.
  • Fixes: the universal executable runs again on CPUs without AVX (issue #10), an 8 MB thread stack on every platform (issue #9), 64-bit Zobrist keys, and the fixes from the code review by Bastiii.
The techniques that are new to our knowledge are listed in NOVELTIES.md.

Files: one Windows executable for every x86-64 CPU (from SSE4.1 to AVX-512, the best build is chosen at start-up), Linux builds for any distribution, and macOS builds for Apple Silicon and Intel.

Position Solver: the 8.1 analysis build for hard positions is also released. On Eduard Nemeth's "256 difficult positions 2023" at 10 s per position, Maurizio Platino measured 173 solved with the Position Solver of 28 October, against 154 for ShashChess 42 and 146 for Stockfish 19. It is made for solving and analysing positions, not for games.

Thanks to Maurizio Platino (MortalSin), the project's main tester and search-tuner, who also shares the cost of training the networks; to Houze Guo, A Tin Man and Bastiii for their code; to Mark Tang for his testing and reports during development; and to CCRL and the whole computer chess community.

Triumviratus is becoming a community project: anyone who would like to join the Discord server can contact me.

Francesco

Download Triumviratus 8.1
Download Triumviratus 8.1 Position Solver
Hello,
The Universal build is working properly now.
A very powerful program, running perfectly on my PC.
Thank you,
Flavio/
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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

Post by cc2150dx »

NathanDrake wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2026 2:28 pm Triumviratus 8.1 released

Triumviratus 8.1 is out. It is the official release that follows 8.0 and the 8.1 pre-releases of the last weeks.

While 8.1 was being prepared, Triumviratus 8.0 kept doing well on the CCRL lists of 7 November: on 40/15 it shares first place on 4 CPUs with Stockfish 19 (3650) and is first among the single-CPU engines (3635), on Blitz it is second (3784), and on the 40/2 FRC list it is second (4104).

Strength (UHO 2024 openings, 1 thread, large pages enabled for both engines):
  • against Triumviratus 8.0: +21.5 +- 6.7 Elo over 2,508 games at 15+0.15
  • against Stockfish 19: +0.3 +- 3.3 Elo over 8,860 games at 60+0.6
The Consilium Plebis network is large (about 250 MB), so without large pages Triumviratus loses more speed than Stockfish 19: on a PC without them the result can be lower. The README explains how to enable them.

What is new
  • Network: Consilium Plebis, with input buckets chosen separately for each side by the opponent's non-pawn material (the project calls them "experts"; the idea comes from the mixture-of-experts models of language AI), and a small pawn-king subnetwork added to every layer stack. Alone it is worth about +10 Elo over the 8.0 network.
  • Search: every block rewritten in the project's own code, a quiet history that learns as a listwise ranker, and several changes measured one by one.
  • Speed: faster evaluation and move ordering, with contributions from Houze Guo (AVX2, AVX-VNNI and AVX-512) and A Tin Man (move generator). The universal executable now carries each build exactly as it was optimised alone, each with its own PGO profile, built with clang 23.
  • Fixes: the universal executable runs again on CPUs without AVX (issue #10), an 8 MB thread stack on every platform (issue #9), 64-bit Zobrist keys, and the fixes from the code review by Bastiii.
The techniques that are new to our knowledge are listed in NOVELTIES.md.

Files: one Windows executable for every x86-64 CPU (from SSE4.1 to AVX-512, the best build is chosen at start-up), Linux builds for any distribution, and macOS builds for Apple Silicon and Intel.

Position Solver: the 8.1 analysis build for hard positions is also released. On Eduard Nemeth's "256 difficult positions 2023" at 10 s per position, Maurizio Platino measured 173 solved with the Position Solver of 28 October, against 154 for ShashChess 42 and 146 for Stockfish 19. It is made for solving and analysing positions, not for games.

Thanks to Maurizio Platino (MortalSin), the project's main tester and search-tuner, who also shares the cost of training the networks; to Houze Guo, A Tin Man and Bastiii for their code; to Mark Tang for his testing and reports during development; and to CCRL and the whole computer chess community.

Triumviratus is becoming a community project: anyone who would like to join the Discord server can contact me.

Francesco

Download Triumviratus 8.1
Download Triumviratus 8.1 Position Solver
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If the net is supposed to be embedded why does it say: EvalFile: 'nn-consilium-plebis.nnue' not found (kept current net) ?
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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

Post by peter »

The 325 positions (see ShashChess site) single thread with 90"/pos and MultiPV=1,2,3,4- runs. Triumviratus Position Solver 8.1 best at nr. 13 (MPV3) , "Default" for MPV=2 (AnShadow true), best run of previous version 8.0PosMPV3 at nr. 25, 40 StatTS- Elo at error bar 9 between them.
"ALF" is my private engine (for Analysis Learning Fish :), mainly based on SF dev. with patches made by Claude based on role models like e.g Crystal, sorry for having it in list not planning to make it public, just as some kind of non- competitive benchmark for the suite and hardware- TC, the rest of the name stands for a certain single setting, QSEEP3 is Quiet SEE Pruning=3, KD1 is King Danger=1) ShashChess42C was a prerelease- version of ShashChess 42 I tested way back then, it wasn't publicly available neither and is outdated since release of 42.

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 # Engine                          Elo   +/-  Matches  Score%  Av.Opp     Solved     MST1     MST2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1 ALF2QSEEP3KD1MPV3              3578     9    12388   60.9%    3499    274/325     9.0s    21.7s
 2 ShashChess42C-MPV3             3558     7    12273   58.2%    3499    269/325     8.9s    22.9s
 3 HorizonPB-MPV3                 3557     7    12226   58.1%    3499    265/325     8.9s    23.9s
 4 Crystal260930MPV3              3555     8    12500   57.8%    3499    269/325     8.8s    22.8s
 5 Crystal260930MPV4              3548     9    12455   56.7%    3500    269/325     8.8s    22.8s
 6 ShashChess42C-MPV2             3547     8    11994   56.5%    3500    260/325     9.3s    25.4s
 7 ShashChess42MPV3               3544     8    12256   56.3%    3499    268/325     9.8s    23.8s
 8 Crystal260930MPV2              3543     9    12151   56.0%    3500    253/325     8.2s    26.3s
 9 ShashChess42C-MPV4             3536     8    12054   55.0%    3500    259/325     9.1s    25.5s
10 CorChess260924MPV3             3535     7    12175   54.8%    3500    265/325    11.5s    26.0s
11 ShashChess41.2GDMPV4           3533     8    12251   54.6%    3500    262/325     9.0s    24.7s
12 CorChess260924MPV4             3532     7    12236   54.5%    3500    267/325    12.2s    26.1s
13 Triumviratus8.1PosMPV3         3532     9    11756   54.4%    3501    241/325    10.0s    30.7s
14 Crystal260930                  3532     9    12215   54.3%    3501    252/325    10.0s    28.0s
15 CorChess260924MPV2             3530     7    12012   54.1%    3500    258/325    11.5s    27.7s
16 Triumviratus8.1PosDefault      3528     8    11524   53.7%    3501    232/325     9.4s    32.4s
17 LeptirM260122                  3524     8    12156   53.3%    3500    262/325    11.2s    26.5s
18 Stockfish261013MPV4            3523     9    11916   53.0%    3501    250/325    11.3s    29.5s
19 LeptirM260122MPV2              3521     8    12031   52.8%    3501    254/325    11.1s    28.3s
20 ALF2MPV3                       3519     8    11851   52.5%    3501    240/325     9.3s    30.4s
21 LeptirM260122MPV4              3517     8    12098   52.3%    3500    258/325    10.9s    27.2s
22 HorizonPB                      3510     9    11431   51.1%    3502    228/325    10.0s    33.9s
23 ShashChess42C                  3506     9    11534   50.5%    3502    227/325    10.6s    34.6s
24 ShashChess42                   3503     8    11463   50.1%    3502    228/325    11.5s    34.9s
25 Triumviratus8.0PosMPV3         3503     8    11426   50.1%    3502    229/325    10.4s    33.9s
26 Reckless260903MPV4             3498     9    11876   49.4%    3502    243/325     9.7s    30.0s
27 Triumviratus8PS                3498     8    11290   49.3%    3502    223/325    10.5s    35.5s
28 Triumviratus8.0PosMPV4         3487     8    11527   47.8%    3502    232/325    12.9s    35.0s
29 CorChess260924                 3486     8    11393   47.6%    3503    223/325    11.2s    35.9s
30 Stockfish260913                3484     9    11295   47.2%    3504    207/325    12.1s    40.4s
31 Stockfish261010                3484     8    11267   47.2%    3503    213/325    11.5s    38.6s
32 ShashChess41.2                 3482     9    11296   47.0%    3503    214/325     9.0s    36.7s
33 Triumviratus8.1PosMPV1         3479    10    11011   46.5%    3504    199/325     9.8s    40.9s
34 LeptirM260122MPV1              3476     8    11333   46.2%    3503    218/325    12.5s    38.0s
35 Crystal9                       3475    11    11718   46.1%    3503    223/325    10.1s    35.2s
36 Stockfish19                    3465    10    11013   44.4%    3504    195/325    11.1s    42.6s
37 Triumviratus8.0                3463     9    10817   44.1%    3505    191/325     9.2s    42.5s
38 Triumviratus8.0PosMPV1         3462    10    10864   44.0%    3504    194/325    10.4s    42.5s
39 Reckless260903                 3452     9    11385   42.6%    3504    212/325    12.3s    39.3s
40 PlentyChess8.0                 3447    11    11115   41.8%    3505    185/325     9.9s    44.4s
41 Pawnocchio260828               3440    10    11390   41.0%    3504    204/325    14.4s    42.6s
42 Integral260925                 3398    10    11083   35.1%    3506    175/325    15.0s    49.6s
43 Cinder0.6.1                    3379    11    10630   32.5%    3507    150/325    13.0s    54.4s
44 Coda0.9.4.1                    3330    14    10455   26.6%    3508    117/325    10.6s    61.4s

Kreuztabelle (Zeile gegen Spalte, Elo-Differenz; Spalten = Ranglistennummern):
                                   1      2      3      4      5      6      7      8      9     10     11     12     13     14     15     16     17     18     19     20     21     22     23     24     25     26     27     28     29     30     31     32     33     34     35     36     37     38     39     40     41     42     43     44
 1  ALF2QSEEP3KD1MPV3              —    +23    +20    +21    +26    +37    +35    +32    +46    +48    +50    +50    +45    +50    +53    +48    +61    +57    +61    +63    +67    +67    +71    +74    +74    +85    +82    +97    +92    +89    +89    +91    +93   +102   +107   +108   +106   +108   +126   +120   +132   +172   +191   +232
 2  ShashChess42C-MPV3           -23      —   +3.9   -0.3   +8.9    +12    +15    +16    +22    +30    +29    +29    +28    +25    +31    +32    +40    +39    +40    +43    +47    +46    +57    +56    +63    +62    +65    +76    +75    +76    +73    +74    +75    +82    +81    +90    +90    +95   +105   +103   +116   +152   +163   +204
 3  HorizonPB-MPV3               -20   -3.9      —   -0.5   +8.7    +12    +12    +12    +16    +22    +20    +25    +28    +25    +28    +32    +37    +39    +37    +43    +41    +54    +51    +54    +62    +62    +67    +77    +71    +70    +73    +75    +82    +81    +78    +92    +96    +93   +104   +104   +116   +155   +173   +213
 4  Crystal260930MPV3            -21   +0.3   +0.5      —    +12  +10.0    +13    +19    +20    +22    +24    +26    +24    +35    +28    +27    +40    +34    +36    +31    +46    +46    +49    +56    +49    +58    +55    +65    +72    +67    +67    +75    +73    +84    +95    +82    +85    +84   +100   +103   +116   +160   +155   +205
 5  Crystal260930MPV4            -26   -8.9   -8.7    -12      —   +0.5   +2.8   +8.5    +12    +16    +17    +18    +20    +27    +23    +21    +31    +31    +31    +23    +34    +41    +39    +45    +43    +52    +49    +60    +61    +63    +57    +69    +63    +78    +83    +72    +79    +82    +93    +94   +109   +148   +145   +199
 6  ShashChess42C-MPV2           -37    -12    -12  -10.0   -0.5      —   +2.5   +2.2    +11    +15    +14    +19    +18    +15    +20    +17    +27    +27    +26    +27    +30    +33    +47    +44    +48    +52    +53    +63    +63    +65    +62    +63    +65    +67    +68    +86    +80    +85    +94    +93   +108   +143   +162   +202
 7  ShashChess42MPV3             -35    -15    -12    -13   -2.8   -2.5      —   +2.8   +6.2    +13    +14    +14    +16    +15    +17    +19    +26    +22    +24    +31    +31    +32    +42    +41    +47    +51    +49    +61    +59    +62    +60    +60    +60    +66    +70    +77    +77    +83    +91    +91   +103   +142   +152   +200
 8  Crystal260930MPV2            -32    -16    -12    -19   -8.5   -2.2   -2.8      —   +9.0   +9.3   +9.1    +13   +6.0    +17    +16    +17    +23    +22    +23    +22    +31    +38    +36    +45    +34    +46    +43    +51    +59    +60    +58    +61    +62    +71    +80    +76    +76    +80    +94    +96   +107   +149   +145   +195
 9  ShashChess42C-MPV4           -46    -22    -16    -20    -12    -11   -6.2   -9.0      —   +3.7   +6.4   +9.0   +3.7   +0.9   +9.0   +6.7    +17    +18    +19    +19    +26    +28    +34    +31    +40    +44    +42    +57    +51    +50    +48    +55    +49    +59    +64    +65    +71    +73    +78    +83    +91   +130   +146   +193
10  CorChess260924MPV3           -48    -30    -22    -22    -16    -15    -13   -9.3   -3.7      —   +1.6   +4.2   +5.1   +2.1   +6.6   +9.6    +12    +14    +17    +17    +17    +26    +31    +32    +37    +44    +43    +55    +54    +55    +49    +50    +58    +59    +60    +71    +71    +71    +82    +85    +91   +132   +149   +190
11  ShashChess41.2GDMPV4         -50    -29    -20    -24    -17    -14    -14   -9.1   -6.4   -1.6      —   -0.8   -2.6   +3.0   +3.7   +9.4    +15   +7.5    +12    +15    +20    +26    +32    +30    +37    +37    +41    +51    +46    +50    +46    +57    +53    +60    +59    +61    +73    +72    +83    +79    +90   +130   +147   +191
12  CorChess260924MPV4           -50    -29    -25    -26    -18    -19    -14    -13   -9.0   -4.2   +0.8      —   +3.3   -2.8   +1.9   +9.9   +8.8    +11    +11    +14    +14    +27    +28    +30    +38    +38    +41    +52    +53    +54    +51    +51    +56    +60    +55    +66    +72    +71    +82    +81    +90   +129   +147   +189
13  Triumviratus8.1PosMPV3       -45    -28    -28    -24    -20    -18    -16   -6.0   -3.7   -5.1   +2.6   -3.3      —   +1.3   +0.5   +6.8   +9.7  +10.0    +10    +13    +16    +26    +25    +28    +40    +31    +41    +50    +46    +45    +49    +53    +59    +61    +50    +70    +77    +75    +82    +83    +90   +128   +147   +200
14  Crystal260930                -50    -25    -25    -35    -27    -15    -15    -17   -0.9   -2.1   -3.0   +2.8   -1.3      —   +4.2   +1.6   +9.9   +8.1    +15   +7.2    +20    +25    +29    +34    +21    +29    +31    +42    +50    +49    +47    +54    +50    +63    +68    +65    +70    +71    +84    +86    +97   +139   +142   +194
15  CorChess260924MPV2           -53    -31    -28    -28    -23    -20    -17    -16   -9.0   -6.6   -3.7   -1.9   -0.5   -4.2      —   +4.6   +3.5   +7.6   +7.1    +13   +8.7    +24    +21    +25    +30    +38    +36    +48    +52    +55    +50    +45    +51    +52    +49    +72    +63    +68    +82    +85    +94   +129   +153   +190
16  Triumviratus8.1PosDefault    -48    -32    -32    -27    -21    -17    -19    -17   -6.7   -9.6   -9.4   -9.9   -6.8   -1.6   -4.6      —   +5.0   +0.6   +2.9   +7.5   +5.2    +18    +23    +29    +25    +25    +31    +41    +44    +42    +52    +50    +59    +53    +51    +72    +69    +64    +72    +78    +83   +128   +159   +203
17  LeptirM260122                -61    -40    -37    -40    -31    -27    -26    -23    -17    -12    -15   -8.8   -9.7   -9.9   -3.5   -5.0      —   +0.0   +3.8   +4.5   +7.5    +18    +22    +23    +26    +22    +30    +42    +42    +44    +40    +49    +45    +60    +49    +61    +68    +68    +74    +79    +84   +126   +140   +191
18  Stockfish261013MPV4          -57    -39    -39    -34    -31    -27    -22    -22    -18    -14   -7.5    -11  -10.0   -8.1   -7.6   -0.6   -0.0      —   +3.9   +3.6   +7.9    +11    +18    +19    +22    +26    +27    +42    +37    +42    +40    +45    +44    +46    +45    +56    +63    +63    +68    +76    +79   +119   +142   +196
19  LeptirM260122MPV2            -61    -40    -37    -36    -31    -26    -24    -23    -19    -17    -12    -11    -10    -15   -7.1   -2.9   -3.8   -3.9      —   +1.2   +4.8    +14    +14    +14    +20    +23    +30    +35    +38    +40    +35    +42    +43    +52    +48    +59    +61    +64    +74    +76    +81   +123   +141   +179
20  ALF2MPV3                     -63    -43    -43    -31    -23    -27    -31    -22    -19    -17    -15    -14    -13   -7.2    -13   -7.5   -4.5   -3.6   -1.2      —   +1.6    +10    +17    +15    +15    +20    +16    +32    +32    +38    +37    +38    +40    +39    +42    +55    +53    +60    +70    +75    +79   +120   +142   +188
21  LeptirM260122MPV4            -67    -47    -41    -46    -34    -30    -31    -31    -26    -17    -20    -14    -16    -20   -8.7   -5.2   -7.5   -7.9   -4.8   -1.6      —   +8.5    +13    +15    +19    +19    +26    +33    +34    +37    +31    +41    +39    +46    +41    +54    +61    +63    +66    +69    +80   +118   +134   +179
22  HorizonPB                    -67    -46    -54    -46    -41    -33    -32    -38    -28    -26    -26    -27    -26    -25    -24    -18    -18    -11    -14    -10   -8.5      —   +2.9   +5.0   +6.9   +8.2   +9.3    +22    +26    +26    +34    +29    +36    +35    +29    +54    +60    +56    +62    +69    +70   +108   +142   +189
23  ShashChess42C                -71    -57    -51    -49    -39    -47    -42    -36    -34    -31    -32    -28    -25    -29    -21    -23    -22    -18    -14    -17    -13   -2.9      —   -1.2   +1.9   +6.7   +6.8    +17    +20    +23    +27    +25    +29    +32    +28    +49    +47    +49    +54    +58    +68   +107   +127   +183
24  ShashChess42                 -74    -56    -54    -56    -45    -44    -41    -45    -31    -32    -30    -30    -28    -34    -25    -29    -23    -19    -14    -15    -15   -5.0   +1.2      —   -1.9   +6.7   +6.3    +11    +17    +20    +26    +26    +22    +29    +26    +47    +39    +46    +51    +57    +66   +102   +126   +179
25  Triumviratus8.0PosMPV3       -74    -63    -62    -49    -43    -48    -47    -34    -40    -37    -37    -38    -40    -21    -30    -25    -26    -22    -20    -15    -19   -6.9   -1.9   +1.9      —   +5.3   +6.7    +18    +18    +18    +21    +22    +26    +27    +31    +40    +46    +47    +53    +58    +58   +109   +134   +183
26  Reckless260903MPV4           -85    -62    -62    -58    -52    -52    -51    -46    -44    -44    -37    -38    -31    -29    -38    -25    -22    -26    -23    -20    -19   -8.2   -6.7   -6.7   -5.3      —   +3.8   +7.5   +7.6    +12    +13    +15    +24    +23    +25    +33    +37    +38    +52    +55    +61   +104   +118   +172
27  Triumviratus8PS              -82    -65    -67    -55    -49    -53    -49    -43    -42    -43    -41    -41    -41    -31    -36    -31    -30    -27    -30    -16    -26   -9.3   -6.8   -6.3   -6.7   -3.8      —    +13    +17    +13    +13    +14    +21    +19    +20    +41    +43    +48    +45    +58    +58   +102   +126   +180
28  Triumviratus8.0PosMPV4       -97    -76    -77    -65    -60    -63    -61    -51    -57    -55    -51    -52    -50    -42    -48    -41    -42    -42    -35    -32    -33    -22    -17    -11    -18   -7.5    -13      —   +2.1   +1.2   +7.8   +6.3    +14    +11    +16    +26    +33    +33    +37    +45    +53    +95   +114   +169
29  CorChess260924               -92    -75    -71    -72    -61    -63    -59    -59    -51    -54    -46    -53    -46    -50    -52    -44    -42    -37    -38    -32    -34    -26    -20    -17    -18   -7.6    -17   -2.1      —   +7.4   +7.5   +2.3    +11   +8.6    +11    +28    +24    +26    +39    +44    +51    +89   +124   +165
30  Stockfish260913              -89    -76    -70    -67    -63    -65    -62    -60    -50    -55    -50    -54    -45    -49    -55    -42    -44    -42    -40    -38    -37    -26    -23    -20    -18    -12    -13   -1.2   -7.4      —   +1.3   +1.7   +7.7   +7.0   +5.2    +24    +19    +21    +32    +43    +39    +86   +117   +163
31  Stockfish261010              -89    -73    -73    -67    -57    -62    -60    -58    -48    -49    -46    -51    -49    -47    -50    -52    -40    -40    -35    -37    -31    -34    -27    -26    -21    -13    -13   -7.8   -7.5   -1.3      —   -1.1   -2.1   +1.8   +8.7    +20    +20    +22    +25    +41    +38    +87   +126   +170
32  ShashChess41.2               -91    -74    -75    -75    -69    -63    -60    -61    -55    -50    -57    -51    -53    -54    -45    -50    -49    -45    -42    -38    -41    -29    -25    -26    -22    -15    -14   -6.3   -2.3   -1.7   +1.1      —   +0.4   +1.9   +4.8    +22    +28    +19    +37    +37    +49    +91   +115   +163
33  Triumviratus8.1PosMPV1       -93    -75    -82    -73    -63    -65    -60    -62    -49    -58    -53    -56    -59    -50    -51    -59    -45    -44    -43    -40    -39    -36    -29    -22    -26    -24    -21    -14    -11   -7.7   +2.1   -0.4      —   +4.2   +0.3    +15    +19    +18    +24    +33    +38    +83   +113   +166
34  LeptirM260122MPV1           -102    -82    -81    -84    -78    -67    -66    -71    -59    -59    -60    -60    -61    -63    -52    -53    -60    -46    -52    -39    -46    -35    -32    -29    -27    -23    -19    -11   -8.6   -7.0   -1.8   -1.9   -4.2      —   +0.3    +15    +20    +21    +27    +35    +42    +86   +109   +158
35  Crystal9                    -107    -81    -78    -95    -83    -68    -70    -80    -64    -60    -59    -55    -50    -68    -49    -51    -49    -45    -48    -42    -41    -29    -28    -26    -31    -25    -20    -16    -11   -5.2   -8.7   -4.8   -0.3   -0.3      —    +11    +12    +13    +29    +30    +41    +84    +98   +140
36  Stockfish19                 -108    -90    -92    -82    -72    -86    -77    -76    -65    -71    -61    -66    -70    -65    -72    -72    -61    -56    -59    -55    -54    -54    -49    -47    -40    -33    -41    -26    -28    -24    -20    -22    -15    -15    -11      —   -4.1   +2.5    +12    +23    +25    +70   +108   +151
37  Triumviratus8.0             -106    -90    -96    -85    -79    -80    -77    -76    -71    -71    -73    -72    -77    -70    -63    -69    -68    -63    -61    -53    -61    -60    -47    -39    -46    -37    -43    -33    -24    -19    -20    -28    -19    -20    -12   +4.1      —   +0.1    +11    +22    +22    +70   +100   +161
38  Triumviratus8.0PosMPV1      -108    -95    -93    -84    -82    -85    -83    -80    -73    -71    -72    -71    -75    -71    -68    -64    -68    -63    -64    -60    -63    -56    -49    -46    -47    -38    -48    -33    -26    -21    -22    -19    -18    -21    -13   -2.5   -0.1      —   +7.7    +25    +24    +68   +100   +163
39  Reckless260903              -126   -105   -104   -100    -93    -94    -91    -94    -78    -82    -83    -82    -82    -84    -82    -72    -74    -68    -74    -70    -66    -62    -54    -51    -53    -52    -45    -37    -39    -32    -25    -37    -24    -27    -29    -12    -11   -7.7      —    +14    +13    +63    +74   +131
40  PlentyChess8.0              -120   -103   -104   -103    -94    -93    -91    -96    -83    -85    -79    -81    -83    -86    -85    -78    -79    -76    -76    -75    -69    -69    -58    -57    -58    -55    -58    -45    -44    -43    -41    -37    -33    -35    -30    -23    -22    -25    -14      —   +6.4    +54    +74   +124
41  Pawnocchio260828            -132   -116   -116   -116   -109   -108   -103   -107    -91    -91    -90    -90    -90    -97    -94    -83    -84    -79    -81    -79    -80    -70    -68    -66    -58    -61    -58    -53    -51    -39    -38    -49    -38    -42    -41    -25    -22    -24    -13   -6.4      —    +52    +66   +123
42  Integral260925              -172   -152   -155   -160   -148   -143   -142   -149   -130   -132   -130   -129   -128   -139   -129   -128   -126   -119   -123   -120   -118   -108   -107   -102   -109   -104   -102    -95    -89    -86    -87    -91    -83    -86    -84    -70    -70    -68    -63    -54    -52      —    +22    +81
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# Name                     Points      %     Elo    +/-   W-L-D          1     2     
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1 Stockfish dev-20261028   538.0/1000  53.8  +26.5  13.5  +235-159=606         53.8% 
2 Triumviratus 8.1         462.0/1000  46.2     --    --  +159-235=606   46.2%       

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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

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cc2150dx wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2026 6:45 pm Image
If the net is supposed to be embedded why does it say: EvalFile: 'nn-consilium-plebis.nnue' not found (kept current net) ?
You can get the net from: https://github.com/Tors3/Triumviratus-N ... lebis.nnue
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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

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Triumvirartus rating results you can see in this new AI-list: https://ipmanchess.yolasite.com/r9-7945 ... ngines.php

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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

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Hi Francesco,

Below is the result of a similarity test between 23 top engines.

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Engine Stockfish-19 and Triumviratus-8.0 show a similarity of 64.05%
Engine Stockfish-19 and Triumviratus-8.1 show a similarity of 63.74%
Engine Stockfish-18 and Triumviratus-8.0 show a similarity of 63.12%
Engine Stockfish-18 and Triumviratus-8.1 show a similarity of 62.60%
Engine Pawnocchio-1.9.2 and Tarnished-5.0 show a similarity of 61.03%
I can say that 64% with Stockfish-19 is extreme high for a NNUE engine.

Most of the top engines score a similarity in the 40's or low 50's.

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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

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Rebel wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2026 7:45 pm Hi Francesco,

Below is the result of a similarity test between 23 top engines.

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Engine Stockfish-19 and Triumviratus-8.0 show a similarity of 64.05%
Engine Stockfish-19 and Triumviratus-8.1 show a similarity of 63.74%
Engine Stockfish-18 and Triumviratus-8.0 show a similarity of 63.12%
Engine Stockfish-18 and Triumviratus-8.1 show a similarity of 62.60%
Engine Pawnocchio-1.9.2 and Tarnished-5.0 show a similarity of 61.03%
I can say that 64% with Stockfish-19 is extreme high for a NNUE engine.

Most of the top engines score a similarity in the 40's or low 50's.

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Hi,

Could you share how the similarity was measured? Which positions, how many, and the time or depth per move?

If it is based on how often the two engines play the same move, I don't think the number means much. Two strong engines agree on the best move in most positions. Pawnocchio 1.9.2 and Tarnished 5.0 also score high in your list. I dont see the conclusions of such results.
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Re: Triumviratus 8.1 released

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cc2150dx wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2026 6:45 pm
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If the net is supposed to be embedded why does it say: EvalFile: 'nn-consilium-plebis.nnue' not found (kept current net) ?

That's odd, can you share what hardware you are testing on?
Francesco :D