Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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Harvey Williamson wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:31 pm [*]
Harvey Williamson wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:23 pm
Rebel wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:05 pm I never seen any ad on the forum, you?

What happened to SOLIDARITY ?

Solidarity with those who can't access the forum.
Every time I login to your forum I get adverts. I will email you a screenshot when I get home.
The forum website clearly says you have to pay to remove ads.This is what I see at the bottom of the login page:
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Just Install AdGuard AdBlocker and uBlock Origin as extension and you won't get any ads. They will block all the ads.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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In Windows 10 you can still use a modified HOSTS file although Microsoft has recently made it harder to change to DNS Client Server, the only setting that you have to change. But it still seems possible to use it. See https://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm It's free but he does need to pay hospital bills.
Occasionally some of the ads may slip through but I only saw some on Ed's site once I believe.

Irony in that picture from Harvey, Ed in the business of mail order brides for Computer chess enthusiasts :) No ads , honestly.

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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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Most of the time I am still blocked from TalkChess; only rarely I get through. I am currently in e-mail contact with Quentin Turner, discussing the possibility to migrate to a dedicated server.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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Damir wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:03 pm
Harvey Williamson wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:31 pm [*]
Harvey Williamson wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:23 pm
Rebel wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:05 pm I never seen any ad on the forum, you?

What happened to SOLIDARITY ?

Solidarity with those who can't access the forum.
Every time I login to your forum I get adverts. I will email you a screenshot when I get home.
The forum website clearly says you have to pay to remove ads.This is what I see at the bottom of the login page:
Image
Just Install AdGuard AdBlocker and uBlock Origin as extension and you won't get any ads. They will block all the ads.
Install the adblock extension for chrome, no ads.

uBlocker - Ad Block Tool for Chrome
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/adblocker
Of course if you do use Chrome, you shoud add the duckduckgo extension for additional privacy.

TalkChess is dying, we should move sooner than later. Thank you ChessUSA for all the good years. If we really want to thank them for the good years, we should offer them a free ChessUSA link to whereever we go.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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MikeB wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:43 pm
Damir wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:03 pm
Harvey Williamson wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:31 pm [*]
Harvey Williamson wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:23 pm
Rebel wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:05 pm I never seen any ad on the forum, you?

What happened to SOLIDARITY ?

Solidarity with those who can't access the forum.
Every time I login to your forum I get adverts. I will email you a screenshot when I get home.
The forum website clearly says you have to pay to remove ads.This is what I see at the bottom of the login page:
Image
Just Install AdGuard AdBlocker and uBlock Origin as extension and you won't get any ads. They will block all the ads.
Install the adblock extension for chrome, no ads.

uBlocker - Ad Block Tool for Chrome
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/adblocker
Of course if you do use Chrome, you shoud add the duckduckgo extension for additional privacy.

TalkChess is dying, we should move sooner than later. Thank you ChessUSA for all the good years. If we really want to thank them for the good years, we should offer them a free ChessUSA link to whereever we go.
I don't think running an adblocker should be a requirement for visiting talkchess.

Generally I don't have big issues with ads, as long as they are not obnoxious, like on Ed's forum.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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smatovic wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:30 amI suggest that all moderator candidates add a statement on their policy how they intend to deal with the IP blocking issue.
The problem is an IT administrative one, i.e. not within the scope of moderator activities. I'd also suggest to not make the possible relocation of Talkchess a moderation election topic, but to have that in an entirely different discussion.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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Ras wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:01 pm
smatovic wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:30 amI suggest that all moderator candidates add a statement on their policy how they intend to deal with the IP blocking issue.
The problem is an IT administrative one, i.e. not within the scope of moderator activities. I'd also suggest to not make the possible relocation of Talkchess a moderation election topic, but to have that in an entirely different discussion.
I agree in a sense that we as members should be patient and wait for more information on the current situation. Is talkchess.com under DOS attack? IP blocking? Frequent logouts? Negotiation with the sponsor for an own server?

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Michel wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:13 pm
MikeB wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:43 pm
Install the adblock extension for chrome, no ads.

uBlocker - Ad Block Tool for Chrome
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/adblocker
Of course if you do use Chrome, you shoud add the duckduckgo extension for additional privacy.

TalkChess is dying, we should move sooner than later. Thank you ChessUSA for all the good years. If we really want to thank them for the good years, we should offer them a free ChessUSA link to whereever we go.
I don't think running an adblocker should be a requirement for visiting talkchess.

Generally I don't have big issues with ads, as long as they are not obnoxious, like on Ed's forum.
Ad supported services tend to disappear after a few years, especially when visitors block the ads.

You can’t look at this as merely an individual but as a community that exists over years and decades.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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smatovic wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:21 pmI agree in a sense that we as members should be patient and wait for more information on the current situation
My point was that moderator is more of a social position, i.e. dealing with people. If we mix that with administrative aspects, in particular server migration, this would have the side effect of requiring such skills for a moderator position. That in turn would shut out TC members without IT admin background from a moderator post, and I don't think this is an intended effect.

If, on the other hand, we keep the TC server migration separate from the moderator election, then we can concentrate more on the "how" aspects, come to a conclusion, and then see who is willing and skilled to do such a migration without abandoning the database. Remember that the last forum update was pretty difficult, to the point where we donated to get money for paying a contractor to do this job - so a full-blown migration won't be easy-peasy.
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Re: Time to say thanks to ChessUSA for all the good years and move

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I suggest that all moderator candidates add a statement on their policy how they intend to deal with the IP blocking issue.
This is literally the only thing that interests me about these elections. And any member of the the current team gets no vote for not reacting to this problem strongly enough.