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								by Houdini   »  Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:51 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Modern Times wrote: Houdini wrote: It should be won now. 
Houdini has played a couple of excellent moves (37...Qe6! and 42...a5!!) that the Cluster didn't see coming.
The game was drawn, no  ?
Probably not.
Houdini's evaluations have been rising very consistently.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								Modern Times  							 
									
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								by Modern Times   »  Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:54 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Houdini wrote: 
Probably not. 
Houdini's evaluations have been rising very consistently.
OK yes, I have it on screen now
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Tomcass   »  Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:56 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Despite the cluster I felt the game too easy for Houdini 3.0. Probably a new Rybka book leading the game very far in terms of moves could make the match more balanced. 
    Anyway, a very exciting experience. Thanks to the people who has worked hard to make this match possible. And congratulations for this exhibition of strength of Houdini 3.0, Robert.
Tom.
 
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Vinvin   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:21 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			H3 took a very long time to play moves 70 and 71 (around 3 min by move) ... may be it's a bug or a problem with the room ...
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[Event "Wertungspartie, 105m+15s"]
[Site "Maschinenraum"]
[Date "2012.11.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TryMe, Rybka Cluster, 64 cores"]
[Black "Felix 2, Houdini 3 Pro x64 16 cores 3.4 Ghz"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E43"]
[Annotator "0.26;0.02"]
[PlyCount "146"]
[EventDate "2012.11.13"]
[TimeControl "6300+15"]
1. d4 {0.26/21 215} Nf6 {0.02/28 224} 2. c4 {0.46/22 305} e6 {0.09/29 447} 3.
Nc3 {0.36/24 0} Bb4 {0.08/27 179} 4. e3 {0.14/23 481} b6 {0.06/29 234} 5. Bd3 {
0.16/22 19} Bb7 {0.05/28 226} 6. f3 {0.12/23 0} c5 {0.02/28 161} 7. Nge2 {
0.17/22 9} Nc6 {-0.04/28 122} 8. O-O {0.11/22 305} cxd4 {-0.03/28 0} 9. exd4 {
0.08/23 290} O-O {0.01/28 0} 10. Qc2 {0.02/22 415} h6 {-0.10/26 133} 11. a3 {
0.07/23 260} Be7 {-0.01/28 534} 12. Na4 {0.11/21 279} Rc8 {-0.04/27 1} 13. b4 {
0.21/19 127} Re8 {-0.11/26 553} 14. Bb2 {0.21/21 0} b5 {-0.06/25 423} 15. Nc5 {
0.15/23 0} bxc4 {-0.08/27 159} 16. Bxc4 {0.13/23 21} Ba8 {-0.14/26 126} 17. Qd2
{0.05/22 226} Nd5 {-0.11/27 0} 18. Ba6 {0.00/22 180} Rb8 {-0.45/28 288} 19. Bd3
{0.00/23 190} Bg5 {-0.43/28 0} 20. f4 {0.02/19 60} Bh4 {-0.43/28 53} 21. Rac1 {
-0.10/20 382} d6 {-0.44/28 142} 22. Ne4 {-0.08/21 0} Nce7 {-0.50/26 75} 23. g3
{-0.10/20 24} Bf6 {-0.47/25 96} 24. h3 {-0.13/19 84} h5 {-0.51/27 0} 25. Rf2 {
-0.19/21 306} Nf5 {-0.68/24 93} 26. Re1 {-0.28/18 24} Nb6 {-0.80/26 56} 27.
Nxf6+ {-0.13/19 49} Qxf6 {-0.45/28 87} 28. d5 {-0.16/20 40} Qg6 {-0.52/29 66}
29. Nd4 {-0.49/20 67} Nxd5 {-0.88/25 65} 30. Nxf5 {-0.56/21 66} exf5 {
-0.97/24 20} 31. Kh2 {-0.57/21 1} Nf6 {-0.83/28 57} 32. Rfe2 {-0.59/21 67} Ne4
{Game resumed -1.25/26 86} 33. Qe3 {-0.65/21 200} Re7 {-1.24/27 192} 34. Bxe4 {
-0.81/22 0} Bxe4 {-1.29/27 66} 35. Bd4 {-0.83/22 54} a6 {-1.33/29 142} 36. Qc3
{-0.83/24 12} Ree8 {-1.44/29 82} 37. Rc1 {-0.91/23 36} Qe6 {-1.59/30 36} 38.
Qa1 {(Dd2) -1.00/23 81} Rec8 {-1.79/29 97} 39. Rce1 {-1.08/23 0} Qg6 {
(f7-f6) -1.78/30 46} 40. Rc1 {-0.92/24 118} Rxc1 {-1.81/31 0} 41. Qxc1 {
-1.01/25 7} Qe6 {-2.09/27 64} 42. Bb2 {-1.01/24 0} a5 {(Tb8-c8) -2.12/27 92}
43. Qc3 {(Kg1) -1.82/22 170} f6 {-2.58/24 23} 44. Kg1 {(h4) -1.94/21 117} axb4
{(Tb8-c8) -3.08/27 90} 45. axb4 {-1.83/19 22} Rc8 {-3.35/28 137} 46. Qd2 {
-2.04/22 0} Qd7 {-3.36/27 73} 47. Qe3 {(De1) -1.97/21 64} Qb5 {-3.53/26 41} 48.
g4 {(Td2) -2.14/21 104} Rc4 {-4.01/26 73} 49. gxf5 {-2.81/20 24} d5 {
-4.38/24 21} 50. Qf2 {-3.25/19 93} Bxf5 {-4.95/26 0} 51. h4 {(Te7) -3.30/20 106
} d4 {(Db5xb4) -6.18/23 55} 52. Qg3 {(Te7) -4.32/17 65} Rxb4 {
(d4-d3) -7.89/24 13} 53. Re7 {-6.64/19 51} Bg4 {-11.06/28 7} 54. Bc1 {
-7.51/20 0} Rb1 {-13.47/25 16} 55. Re1 {(Tc7) -65.19/23 507} Qc4 {-21.47/24 17}
56. Bd2 {-14.85/22 0} Rb2 {-17.76/23 5} 57. Rc1 {(Te8+) -7.23/21 1} Qa2 {
(Dc4-e2) -23.20/21 1} 58. Be1 {-#15/22 452} d3 {-#17/33 0} 59. f5 {-#14/22 233}
d2 {(Da2-d5) -#16/33 0} 60. Bxd2 {-#15/22 124} Rxd2 {-#15/33 0} 61. Re1 {
(Tf1) -#13/12 69} Kh7 {(Da2-d5) ' -#13/33 37} 62. Rf1 {-#13/23 19} Qa7+ {
-#12/33 6} 63. Kh1 {(Tf2) -#11/23 10} Qd4 {(Lg4xf5) -#11/31 8} 64. Qg2 {
-#10/26 21} Rxg2 {-#10/34 3} 65. Kxg2 {-#10/26 12} Be2 {(Dd4-e4+) -#9/36 1} 66.
Rf2 {-#8/31 18} Bd3 {(Le2-a6) -#8/41 1} 67. Kg3 {(Kf3) -#7/29 16} Qg4+ {
-#7/23 0} 68. Kh2 {-#6/25 0} Be4 {-#6/45 0} 69. Ra2 {-#5/37 29} Qxh4+ {-#5/99 0
} 70. Kg1 {-#4/35 1} Qg3+ {-#4/98 204} 71. Kf1 {-#3/46 0} Bd3+ {-#3/97 173} 72.
Re2 {-#2/51 0} Qh2 {-#2/96 0} 73. Ke1 {-#1/42 1} Qxe2# {
(Lag: Av=0.15s, max=0.6s) -#1/99 0} 0-1 
			
			
													
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								IWB  							 
									
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								by IWB   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:22 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			First game over: 
 
[Event "Wertungspartie, 105m+15s"] 
[Site "Maschinenraum"] 
[Date "2012.11.13"] 
[Round "?"] 
[White "TryMe"] 
[Black "Felix 2, Houdini 3 Pro x64"] 
[Result "0-1"] 
[ECO "E43"] 
[Annotator "0.26;0.02"] 
[PlyCount "146"] 
[EventDate "2012.11.13"] 
[TimeControl "6300+15"] 
 
1. d4 {0.26/21 215} Nf6 {0.02/28 224} 2. c4 {0.46/22 305} e6 {0.09/29 447} 3. 
Nc3 {0.36/24 0} Bb4 {0.08/27 179} 4. e3 {0.14/23 481} b6 {0.06/29 234} 5. Bd3 { 
0.16/22 19} Bb7 {0.05/28 226} 6. f3 {0.12/23 0} c5 {0.02/28 161} 7. Nge2 {0.17/ 
22 9} Nc6 {-0.04/28 122} 8. O-O {0.11/22 305} cxd4 {-0.03/28 0} 9. exd4 {0.08/ 
23 290} O-O {0.01/28 0} 10. Qc2 {0.02/22 415} h6 {-0.10/26 133} 11. a3 {0.07/ 
23 260} Be7 {-0.01/28 534} 12. Na4 {0.11/21 279} Rc8 {-0.04/27 1} 13. b4 {0.21/ 
19 127} Re8 {-0.11/26 553} 14. Bb2 {0.21/21 0} b5 {-0.06/25 423} 15. Nc5 {0.15/ 
23 0} bxc4 {-0.08/27 159} 16. Bxc4 {0.13/23 21} Ba8 {-0.14/26 126} 17. Qd2 {0. 
05/22 226} Nd5 {-0.11/27 0} 18. Ba6 {0.00/22 180} Rb8 {-0.45/28 288} 19. Bd3 { 
0.00/23 190} Bg5 {-0.43/28 0} 20. f4 {0.02/19 60} Bh4 {-0.43/28 53} 21. Rac1 { 
-0.10/20 382} d6 {-0.44/28 142} 22. Ne4 {-0.08/21 0} Nce7 {-0.50/26 75} 23. g3 
{-0.10/20 24} Bf6 {-0.47/25 96} 24. h3 {-0.13/19 84} h5 {-0.51/27 0} 25. Rf2 { 
-0.19/21 306} Nf5 {-0.68/24 93} 26. Re1 {-0.28/18 24} Nb6 {-0.80/26 56} 27. 
Nxf6+ {-0.13/19 49} Qxf6 {-0.45/28 87} 28. d5 {-0.16/20 40} Qg6 {-0.52/29 66} 
29. Nd4 {-0.49/20 67} Nxd5 {-0.88/25 65} 30. Nxf5 {-0.56/21 66} exf5 {-0.97/24 
20} 31. Kh2 {-0.57/21 1} Nf6 {-0.83/28 57} 32. Rfe2 {-0.59/21 67} Ne4 {-1.25/ 
26 86 Game resumed} 33. Qe3 {-0.65/21 200} Re7 {-1.24/27 192} 34. Bxe4 {-0.81/ 
22 0} Bxe4 {-1.29/27 66} 35. Bd4 {-0.83/22 54} a6 {-1.33/29 142} 36. Qc3 {-0. 
83/24 12} Ree8 {-1.44/29 82} 37. Rc1 {-0.91/23 36} Qe6 {-1.59/30 36} 38. Qa1 { 
-1.00/23 81 (Dd2)} Rec8 {-1.79/29 97} 39. Rce1 {-1.08/23 0} Qg6 {-1.78/30 46  
(f7-f6)} 40. Rc1 {-0.92/24 118} Rxc1 {-1.81/31 0} 41. Qxc1 {-1.01/25 7} Qe6 { 
-2.09/27 64} 42. Bb2 {-1.01/24 0} a5 {-2.12/27 92 (Tb8-c8)} 43. Qc3 {-1.82/22 
170 (Kg1)} f6 {-2.58/24 23} 44. Kg1 {-1.94/21 117 (h4)} axb4 {-3.08/27 90  
(Tb8-c8)} 45. axb4 {-1.83/19 22} Rc8 {-3.35/28 137} 46. Qd2 {-2.04/22 0} Qd7 { 
-3.36/27 73} 47. Qe3 {-1.97/21 64 (De1)} Qb5 {-3.53/26 41} 48. g4 {-2.14/21 
104 (Td2)} Rc4 {-4.01/26 73} 49. gxf5 {-2.81/20 24} d5 {-4.38/24 21} 50. Qf2 { 
-3.25/19 93} Bxf5 {-4.95/26 0} 51. h4 {-3.30/20 106 (Te7)} d4 {-6.18/23 55  
(Db5xb4)} 52. Qg3 {-4.32/17 65 (Te7)} Rxb4 {-7.89/24 13 (d4-d3)} 53. Re7 {-6. 
64/19 51} Bg4 {-11.06/28 7} 54. Bc1 {-7.51/20 0} Rb1 {-13.47/25 16} 55. Re1 { 
-65.19/23 507 (Tc7)} Qc4 {-21.47/24 17} 56. Bd2 {-14.85/22 0} Rb2 {-17.76/23 5} 
57. Rc1 {-7.23/21 1 (Te8+)} Qa2 {-23.20/21 1 (Dc4-e2)} 58. Be1 {-#15/22 452} d3 
{-#17/33 0} 59. f5 {-#14/22 233} d2 {-#16/33 0 (Da2-d5)} 60. Bxd2 {-#15/22 124} 
Rxd2 {-#15/33 0} 61. Re1 {-#13/12 69 (Tf1)} Kh7 {-#13/33 37 (Da2-d5) '} 62. Rf1 
{-#13/23 19} Qa7+ {-#12/33 6} 63. Kh1 {-#11/23 10 (Tf2)} Qd4 {-#11/31 8  
(Lg4xf5)} 64. Qg2 {-#10/26 21} Rxg2 {-#10/34 3} 65. Kxg2 {-#10/26 12} Be2 {-#9/ 
36 1 (Dd4-e4+)} 66. Rf2 {-#8/31 18} Bd3 {-#8/41 1 (Le2-a6)} 67. Kg3 {-#7/29 16 
(Kf3)} Qg4+ {-#7/23 0} 68. Kh2 {-#6/25 0} Be4 {-#6/45 0} 69. Ra2 {-#5/37 29} 
Qxh4+ {-#5/99 0} 70. Kg1 {-#4/35 1} Qg3+ {-#4/98 204} 71. Kf1 {-#3/46 0} Bd3+ { 
-#3/97 173} 72. Re2 {-#2/51 0} Qh2 {-#2/96 0} 73. Ke1 {-#1/42 1} Qxe2# {-#1/99 
0 (Lag: Av=0.15s, max=0.6s)} 0-1 
 
Tomorrow 20.00 CET second game on Playchess. 
 
Bye 
Ingo
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								gotogo  							 
									
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								by gotogo   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:19 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			Looks like Houdini 3 cooked himself some fish today! 
    
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								Vinvin  							 
									
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								by Vinvin   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:26 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Graham Banks   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:40 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			gotogo wrote: Looks like Houdini 3 cooked himself some fish today! 
   
That was a complete mauling. Rybka will need to play better than that!
 
			
			
									
						
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								by beachknight   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:22 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			Vinvin wrote: Speed :  
Rybka cluster 64 cores : 104 Mn/sec 
Houdini 3 16*3.4 Ghz : 34 Mn/s
Oh. what a monster!  
 
			
			
									
						
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								by beachknight   »  Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:29 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			Graham Banks wrote: gotogo wrote: Looks like Houdini 3 cooked himself some fish today! 
   
That was a complete mauling. Rybka will need to play better than that!
completely agreed. It seems that an opening surprise will not not sufficient to win.
 
			
			
									
						
							hi, merhaba, hallo HT