My test for Kayra 1.0 v6 bmi2

[AlexChess]

Download:
https://filehorst.de/d/egFrDjsy

THANK YOU ! SUPER !

Using the .pgn Kayra matches collection you can made (easy) an opening book in .abk format under Arena GUI. Here is a short tutorial:

https://www.chess2u.com/t4215-how-to-ma ... p-tutorial

This book can be used like GUI book for all engines in matches/tournaments in Arena GUI !

I'm wondering why, if some original authors here know so well Stockfish code, their engine Is still 300 ELO worse, while with (supposed) random changes Keyra 1.0 v6 is so strong according to most testers ...Mehmet and Sylwy you are welcome on BanksiaGui forum to test all SF derivatives that you likes, skipping boring critics.
https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19

Best regards, Alex

non sei un programmatore vero?

Yes I'm, but I develop in Asp.net + SQL for CMS and web sites. I'm not a chess engine developer, but since I know C++ and all original authors say that it's trivial, I'm seriously thinking to modify last SF-dev parameters to create one more Fishstain for the joy of someone here Unfortunately Visual Studio 2019 Community for Windows 11 ARM64 under Parallels Desktop on Mac mini M1 8GB is very slow, but I like challenges.

PS: Please use English here or moderators could ban us

Best regards, Alex

[tcusr]

Download:
https://filehorst.de/d/egFrDjsy

THANK YOU ! SUPER !

Using the .pgn Kayra matches collection you can made (easy) an opening book in .abk format under Arena GUI. Here is a short tutorial:

https://www.chess2u.com/t4215-how-to-ma ... p-tutorial

This book can be used like GUI book for all engines in matches/tournaments in Arena GUI !

I'm wondering why, if some original authors here know so well Stockfish code, their engine Is still 300 ELO worse, while with (supposed) random changes Keyra 1.0 v6 is so strong according to most testers ...Mehmet and Sylwy you are welcome on BanksiaGui forum to test all SF derivatives that you likes, skipping boring critics.
https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19

Best regards, Alex

non sei un programmatore vero?

Yes I'm, but I develop in Asp.net + SQL for CMS and web sites. I'm not a chess engine developer, but since I know C++ and all original authors say that it's trivial, I'm seriously thinking to modify last SF-dev parameters to create one more Fishstain for the joy of someone here Unfortunately Visual Studio 2019 Community for Windows 11 ARM64 under Parallels Desktop on Mac mini M1 8GB is very slow, but I like challenges.

PS: Please use English here or moderators could ban us

Best regards, Alex

i'm sorry for the comment but it's frustrating seeing someone underestimating your work when they have not done it themselves.
i hope you that your opinion changes when you'll study SF code to see how it works, good luck!

[Eduard]

As I can see, Kayra cannot currently load any BIN books directly, maybe this can be changed in the future? In Banksia GUI, however, the BIN format is standard and the book can be loaded in the GUI. I'm planning a CTG matchbook with Kayra games, but it takes longer because I edit my books manually by hand.

I'm sorry, there won't be any more Kayra.ctg books from me. Hurnavich in the Outskirts Forum got today ahead of me and made a Kayra.ctg book, but I don't do a book with the same name.

[AlexChess]

The banning of Kayra tests at Outskirts Chess Forum is not problem for me becuse rule is rule.

I'm planning to publish Kayra as open source after making some corrections and new settings in the codes in 1-2 months. Kayra has much less parameters than Stockfish and these parameters are very different compared to Stockfish. So after Kayra becomes open source, I guess it will become much stronger after a good optimization process with the help of people who have strong systems.

Just downloaded Kayra 1.1 popcount.exe approved also by Sarona and I will soon update 1.0 results.

Congratulations, a new strong SF derivative star is born

Best regards, AlexChess

[AlexChess]

The banning of Kayra tests at Outskirts Chess Forum is not problem for me becuse rule is rule.

I'm planning to publish Kayra as open source after making some corrections and new settings in the codes in 1-2 months. Kayra has much less parameters than Stockfish and these parameters are very different compared to Stockfish. So after Kayra becomes open source, I guess it will become much stronger after a good optimization process with the help of people who have strong systems.

Ahh. So you're also violating Stockfish's license as well. Disappointing and disrespectful. Why not just publish the source?

I am not breaking any rules. Despite the intense interest in this engine, I did not give this engine to anyone except the testers. In 3 critical sections (Evalution, Psqt and Pawns), I reduced the number of parameters around 750 to less than 200. It would be a serious mistake to publish Kayra as it is. Due to so many changes in a short time, Kayra has serious weaknesses and I am trying to eliminate them.

by sarona » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:27 pm

It is definitely the psqt.cpp from latest Stockfish development version that I have (stockfish_21122211), but not a verbatim copy. He has made a few changes to the values. Seven modifications in total. No change in the bishop table.

I was skeptical at first - like many others. But my test results with Kayra 1.0 avx2 were very good. Even against Ceres and Lc0 (RTX 3080 Ti) Will definitely take a look at the new 1.1

Thank you Mehmet, your fine tuning is already superlative and you are an example of skills and resilience to steril critics!

PS: I'm starting to analyse SF psqt.cpp too. I'm a MS asp.net developer but, knowing C++, now I want to make my own AlexChess GPLv3 compliant SF derivative!

[Eduard]

Yes, it seems that Kayra 1.1 is impressive strong. Congrats to the Author.

Unfortunately, Hurnavich doesn't want to publish his new Kayra CTG book. So nobody knows if this book is real or just renamed? Nobody can check it! All my 692 games so far are implemented in my Kayra books. The author of Kayra can check my Bin and Abk Kayra book. The same would be possible with the CTG book. I am very disappointed and I see Hurnavich's actions as a provocation. You have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of such a person when he shows photos of books that he does not want to publish? I'm not making a fool of myself in front of Hurnavich, sorry.

[AlexChess]

Yes, it seems that Kayra 1.1 is impressive strong. Congrats to the Author.

Unfortunately, Hurnavich doesn't want to publish his new Kayra CTG book. So nobody knows if this book is real or just renamed? Nobody can check it! All my 692 games so far are implemented in my Kayra books. The author of Kayra can check my Bin and Abk Kayra book. The same would be possible with the CTG book. I am very disappointed and I see Hurnavich's actions as a provocation. You have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of such a person when he shows photos of books that he does not want to publish? I'm not making a fool of myself in front of Hurnavich, sorry.

+1 I will be more than happy to test your Kayra 1.1 Predator 2.2 derivative. I hope that Mehemet will add soon Polyglot .bin support so I can set this book exclusively for Kayra 1.1 on BSG.

PS: Mehmet you could start directly from latest SF PB

[Eduard]

Yes, it would be great if Kayra would support Polyglot. Then I could improve the BIN book better. Some things can only be done manually by analyzing the (PlayChess)games and then editing them with SCID and BIN book tuning.

[AlexChess]

From the 'Outskirts Forum':
(Now talkchess really looks goofy)

Re: Kayra Tests

Post by M.Z » Today, 9:59
Admin Message:
All users are reminded that links and test to engines that violate the GPL license are not allowed in this forum
Engines like Zeus and Kayra cannot be treated differently from Raubfish and other engines therefore in the absence of source code I am forced to close this Thread.
Violation of the GPL license
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I have bad news for you. Rules at Outskirts Chess Forum changes again

Compliance to the GPL license is mandatory. This Forum does not condone the violation thereof in any way. However we have decided to lift any restrictions on posting engine tests. To enable bookmakers and others the opportunity to analyze games generated by those entities, this Forum will allow, in the interests of fair comment, with a disclaimer, games played by those non-compliant engines. Therefore, only the publication of links to engines without source code is prohibited.
http://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/v ... 141#p40141

Outskirts is the past for me (thanks to Skynet ) If you likes, on BanksiaGUI forum you are not considered a moron but a skilled fine tuner (I'm one of the the moderators obviously respecting Pham rules and exclusively for beta testers before you release the source code under GPLv3) https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=29#p29

PS: I've decided to use MSYS2 & MinGW-w64 to compile latest SF PB modified by me instead of VS 2019 Community, maybe you can start from the source already including Polyglot support, too. So Eduard and me can build and test a Kayra.bin opening book.

SF-PB-191221_x64 bin + source code https://pixeldrain.com/u/dNEX6vBz

[AlexChess]

I think it's not private chess engine tests, but the tests of engines that violate gpl rules can be banned.

Raubfish violate gpl rules because a direct download link is shared on a chess forum.
I don' t know the status of Zeus and Fischerov. These engines do not have a direct download link.
Kayra doesn' t violate GPL. I just sent Kayra to some testers and I plan to make Kayra an open source engine until the end of January 2022.

Don't worry, dear. Your good intentions are clear

PS: Just found Kayra 1.0 for Android ARMv7 - ARMv8 and I'm start testing it also on this platform.
Tell me if you need the download link (in PM), if you are not the compiler.