I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

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Edward German

Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Edward German »

Roman Hartmann wrote:The two losses were only possible because of premoving. Shuffling the pieces behind a pawn wall and winning on time is some kind of art but not really chess.
If Hiarcs (or any other chess engine) would be programmed to do that (close the position and shuffle the pieces around with premoves) it would be unbeatable in that regard too. But as Hiarcs (or any other chess engine I know) is programmed to play chess rather than trying to win on time they have a weak spot there. Personally I don't think that this problem is interesting enough to even care about ...

Roman
I can post further two Draw games (from today) if You need?

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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by gerold »

Great games Eduard. Now if the top G.M. could master your
style of play they could be real all around chess players :) :)
I like beating the top computer engines myself. :)

Good luck,

Gerold.
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Dr.Ex »

[quote="Roman Hartmann"]The two losses were only possible because of premoving. Shuffling the pieces behind a pawn wall and winning on time is some kind of art but not really chess.
If Hiarcs (or any other chess engine) would be programmed to do that (close the position and shuffle the pieces around with premoves) it would be unbeatable in that regard too.

I could beat such a thing easily, except at bullet chess of course.
Edward German

Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Edward German »

Edward German wrote:
Roman Hartmann wrote:The two losses were only possible because of premoving. Shuffling the pieces behind a pawn wall and winning on time is some kind of art but not really chess.
If Hiarcs (or any other chess engine) would be programmed to do that (close the position and shuffle the pieces around with premoves) it would be unbeatable in that regard too. But as Hiarcs (or any other chess engine I know) is programmed to play chess rather than trying to win on time they have a weak spot there. Personally I don't think that this problem is interesting enough to even care about ...

Roman
I can post further two Draw games (from today) if You need?

Need You?
Here is an another example:

[Event "5m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Großer Spielsaal"]
[Date "2007.07.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Xhrg"]
[Black "Comp Hiarcs, HIARCS 11.2 MP."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B66"]
[WhiteElo "2708"]
[BlackElo "3230"]
[PlyCount "89"]
[EventDate "2007.07.30"]
[EventType "blitz"]

1. e4 {2} c5 {0} 2. Nf3 {1} Nc6 {0} 3. d4 {1} cxd4 {0} 4. Nxd4 {0} Nf6 {0} 5.
Nc3 {0} d6 {0} 6. Bg5 {2} e6 {0} 7. Qd2 {1} a6 {0} 8. O-O-O {1} h6 {0} 9. Nxc6
{1} bxc6 {0} 10. Bf4 {1} d5 {0} 11. Qe3 {1} Be7 {0} 12. Be2 {24} Qa5 {0} 13.
Qg3 {50} dxe4 {0} 14. Qxg7 {9} Rg8 {0} 15. Qxh6 {1} Ra7 {19} 16. Bd6 {25} Ng4 {
20} 17. Qh7 {2} Qg5+ {1} 18. Kb1 {2} Nf6 {10} 19. Bxe7 {2} Rxe7 {9} 20. Qh3 {0}
Qxg2 {4} 21. Qxg2 {3} Rxg2 {2} 22. Rhg1 {0} Rxg1 {7} 23. Rxg1 {0} Kd7 {10} 24.
h4 {0} Re8 {6} 25. h5 {7} Rh8 {0} 26. Rh1 {5} c5 {5} 27. h6 {2} Kd6 {7} 28. Rh4
{9} Bb7 {6} 29. Kc1 {1} a5 {5} 30. Kd2 {3} Bc6 {7} 31. Bb5 {13} Bxb5 {6} 32.
Nxb5+ {2} Ke5 {0} 33. Nc3 {15} Kf5 {0} 34. Na4 {8} Ng4 {0} 35. Nxc5 {9} Kg5 {0}
36. Rh1 {8} Kf4 {0} 37. h7 {9} Nxf2 {0} 38. Rh4+ {7} Kf3 {6} 39. Rh6 {1} Ng4 {8
} 40. Rh3+ {2} Kg2 {0} 41. Rh4 {7} Kg3 {0} 42. Rh1 {1} Kg2 {6} 43. Rh4 {2} Kg3
{6} 44. Rh1 {1} Kg2 {3} 45. Rh4 {(Lag: Av=1.17s, max=3.8s) 1} 1/2-1/2

The next game was I saw, Hiarcs lost only disconnected, sorry.
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by George Tsavdaris »

Guetti wrote:
swami wrote:You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
You got it right!
I don't agree.
In the past he wrote negative posts about Fritz, Shredder and about Rybka too.
I don't think he posts these to make harm to an engine, but only to show some of its weaknesses....
After his son's birth they've asked him:
"Is it a boy or girl?"
YES! He replied.....