I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

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I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Edward German »

Today on Playchess.com in the Main Room!

First with normally style:

[Event "3m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Playchess.com"]
[Date "2007.07.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Poet13"]
[Black "Comp Hiarcs, HIARCS 11.2 MP."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B97"]
[WhiteElo "2519"]
[BlackElo "3244"]
[PlyCount "41"]
[EventDate "2007.07.31"]
[EventType "blitz"]

1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. Nf3 {1} d6 {0} 3. d4 {1} cxd4 {0} 4. Nxd4 {0} Nf6 {0} 5.
Nc3 {1} a6 {0} 6. Bg5 {1} e6 {0} 7. f4 {0} Qb6 {0} 8. Qd2 {0} Qxb2 {0} 9. Rb1 {
0} Qa3 {0} 10. f5 {0} Nc6 {0} 11. fxe6 {1} fxe6 {0} 12. Nxc6 {0} bxc6 {0} 13.
Be2 {0} Be7 {0} 14. O-O {1} O-O {0} 15. Rb3 {1} Qc5+ {0} 16. Be3 {1} Qe5 {0}
17. Bd4 {0} Qa5 {0} 18. Bb6 {0} Qe5 {0} 19. Bd4 {0} Qa5 {5} 20. Bb6 {0} Qe5 {3}
21. Bd4 {(Lag: Av=0.35s, max=0.6s) 0} 1/2-1/2

Easy draw for the Human, but it was now better!

[Event "3m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Playchess.com"]
[Date "2007.07.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Comp Hiarcs, HIARCS 11.2 MP."]
[Black "Poet13"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A84"]
[WhiteElo "3227"]
[BlackElo "2536"]
[PlyCount "366"]
[EventDate "2007.07.31"]
[EventType "blitz"]

1. c4 {0} c6 {2} 2. d4 {0} d5 {1} 3. Nf3 {0} e6 {1} 4. e3 {0} f5 {1} 5. Nc3 {0}
Nf6 {1} 6. Bd3 {0} Bd6 {1} 7. O-O {0} O-O {1} 8. b3 {0} g6 {4} 9. a4 {13} Nbd7
{5} 10. Ba3 {7} Qe7 {1} 11. Bxd6 {6} Qxd6 {0} 12. a5 {12} a6 {1} 13. Be2 {8}
Re8 {5} 14. Qd2 {8} Nf8 {1} 15. Ne5 {8} N8d7 {7} 16. f4 {4} Nf8 {1} 17. c5 {7}
Qe7 {8} 18. Qe1 {0} N8d7 {3} 19. Nd3 {1} Ne4 {4} 20. Nxe4 {0} dxe4 {0} 21. Nb2
{4} Nf6 {1} 22. Nc4 {3} Nd5 {1} 23. Qg3 {4} Rf8 {8} 24. Ne5 {4} Qf6 {4} 25. h4
{4} Kh8 {12} 26. Rac1 {5} Ne7 {4} 27. Kf2 {6} h5 {1} 28. Kg1 {5} Rg8 {6} 29.
Rcd1 {4} Nd5 {5} 30. Kh2 {3} Rb8 {1} 31. Bc4 {4} Ra8 {3} 32. Rb1 {3} Rb8 {1}
33. b4 {4} Ra8 {1} 34. Rf2 {3} Ra7 {2} 35. Rbb2 {3} Ra8 {1} 36. Rfc2 {5} Ra7 {1
} 37. Kg1 {3} Ra8 {1} 38. Be2 {2} Ra7 {1} 39. Rc1 {2} Ra8 {1} 40. Rbb1 {2} Ra7
{1} 41. Kh2 {5} Ra8 {0} 42. Rf1 {2} Rg7 {1} 43. Qf2 {2} Bd7 {6} 44. Bc4 {1} Be8
{2} 45. Qg3 {1} Rg8 {1} 46. Rg1 {1} Rg7 {1} 47. Rb3 {2} Ra7 {1} 48. Be2 {1} Ra8
{1} 49. Ra1 {0} Ra7 {1} 50. Rg1 {1} Ra8 {0} 51. Rh1 {0} Ra7 {0} 52. Qf2 {1} Ra8
{1} 53. Rf1 {0} Ra7 {0} 54. Rbb1 {1} Ra8 {0} 55. Qg3 {1} Ra7 {1} 56. Bd1 {1}
Ra8 {0} 57. Bb3 {1} Ra7 {0} 58. Ba4 {1} Ra8 {1} 59. Qf2 {1} Ra7 {0} 60. g3 {1}
Ra8 {0} 61. Bc2 {0} Ra7 {0} 62. Qd2 {0} Ra8 {0} 63. Kg1 {0} Ra7 {0} 64. Bb3 {0}
Ra8 {1} 65. Bc4 {0} Ra7 {0} 66. Kg2 {0} Ra8 {0} 67. Rh1 {0} Ra7 {0} 68. Rhe1 {0
} Ra8 {0} 69. Qf2 {1} Ra7 {0} 70. Kg1 {0} Ra8 {0} 71. Be2 {0} Ra7 {0} 72. Kh2 {
0} Ra8 {0} 73. Rec1 {0} Ra7 {0} 74. Re1 {0} Ra8 {0} 75. Rh1 {0} Ra7 {0} 76. Bc4
{1} Ra8 {0} 77. Kg2 {0} Ra7 {0} 78. Qd2 {0} Ra8 {0} 79. Rhe1 {0} Ra7 {0} 80.
Kg1 {0} Ra8 {0} 81. Be2 {0} Ra7 {0} 82. Bc4 {0} Ra8 {0} 83. Qf2 {0} Ra7 {0} 84.
Qb2 {0} Ra8 {0} 85. Kf2 {0} Ra7 {0} 86. Rbc1 {0} Ra8 {0} 87. Qb3 {0} Ra7 {0}
88. Rb1 {0} Ra8 {0} 89. Rf1 {0} Ra7 {0} 90. Qc2 {0} Ra8 {0} 91. Qd2 {0} Ra7 {0}
92. Rbc1 {0} Ra8 {0} 93. Bb3 {0} Ra7 {0} 94. Kg2 {0} Ra8 {0} 95. Ba4 {0} Ra7 {1
} 96. Bc2 {0} Ra8 {0} 97. Ba4 {0} Ra7 {0} 98. Rfe1 {0} Ra8 {0} 99. Bb3 {0} Ra7
{0} 100. Kf2 {0} Ra8 {0} 101. Rh1 {0} Ra7 {0} 102. Rce1 {0} Ra8 {0} 103. Kg2 {0
} Ra7 {0} 104. Rc1 {0} Ra8 {0} 105. Bd1 {0} Ra7 {0} 106. Rf1 {0} Ra8 {0} 107.
Be2 {0} Ra7 {0} 108. Bc4 {0} Ra8 {0} 109. Rcd1 {0} Ra7 {0} 110. Bxd5 {0} exd5 {
1} 111. Qe2 {0} Ra8 {0} 112. Kh2 {0} Ra7 {0} 113. Rb1 {0} Ra8 {0} 114. Rbc1 {0}
Qe7 {0} 115. Rg1 {0} Ra7 {0} 116. Kg2 {0} Ra8 {0} 117. Rgd1 {0} Qf6 {1} 118.
Kf2 {0} Ra7 {0} 119. Rg1 {0} Ra8 {0} 120. Rge1 {0} Ra7 {0} 121. Rcd1 {0} Ra8 {0
} 122. Rh1 {0} Ra7 {0} 123. Rde1 {0} Ra8 {0} 124. Reg1 {0} Ra7 {0} 125. Rb1 {0}
Ra8 {0} 126. Rbg1 {0} Ra7 {0} 127. Rd1 {0} Ra8 {0} 128. Rde1 {0} Ra7 {0} 129.
Ra1 {0} Ra8 {0} 130. Rhe1 {0} Ra7 {0} 131. Rac1 {0} Ra8 {0} 132. Kg2 {0} Ra7 {0
} 133. Rh1 {0} Ra8 {0} 134. Rcf1 {0} Ra7 {0} 135. Rhg1 {0} Ra8 {0} 136. Rh1 {0}
Ra7 {0} 137. Ra1 {0} Ra8 {0} 138. Rhg1 {0} Ra7 {0} 139. Rgb1 {0} Ra8 {0} 140.
Ra2 {0} Ra7 {0} 141. Rd2 {0} Ra8 {1} 142. Rbd1 {0} Ra7 {0} 143. Kf2 {0} Ra8 {0}
144. Ke1 {0} Ra7 {0} 145. Kf1 {0} Ra8 {0} 146. Rc1 {0} Ra7 {0} 147. Rdc2 {0}
Ra8 {0} 148. Kg2 {0} Ra7 {0} 149. Kf1 {0} Ra8 {0} 150. Rb2 {0} Ra7 {0} 151. Rc3
{0} Ra8 {0} 152. Rbc2 {0} Ra7 {0} 153. Kf2 {0} Ra8 {0} 154. Qf1 {0} Ra7 {0}
155. Qd1 {0} Ra8 {1} 156. Qb1 {0} Ra7 {0} 157. Qd1 {0} Ra8 {' 1} 158. Qh1 {0}
Ra7 {0} 159. Qc1 {0} Ra8 {0} 160. b5 {0} axb5 {1} 161. Ra3 {0} Ra6 {0} 162. Rb2
{0} Qe6 {1} 163. Qd2 {0} Qf6 {0} 164. Qb4 {0} Qe6 {0} 165. Qc3 {0} Qf6 {0} 166.
Rbb3 {0} Qe6 {0} 167. Qc2 {0} Qf6 {0} 168. Rb1 {0} Qe6 {0} 169. Raa1 {0} Qf6 {0
} 170. Ke2 {0} Qe6 {0} 171. Qc3 {0} Qf6 {0} 172. Qd2 {0} Qe6 {0} 173. Qc2 {0}
Qf6 {0} 174. Kf2 {0} Qe6 {0} 175. Rd1 {0} Qf6 {0} 176. Qc3 {0} Qe6 {0} 177. Rh1
{0} Qf6 {0} 178. Rhc1 {0} Qe6 {0} 179. Rab1 {0} Qf6 {0} 180. Rc2 {0} Qe6 {0}
181. Rbb2 {. 0} Qf6 {0} 182. Qb4 {0} Qe6 {0} 183. Kg2 {0} Qf6 {
Zeit (Lag: Av=0.35s, max=0.8s) 0} 0-1

Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Next:

[Event "3m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "Playchess.com"]
[Date "2007.07.31"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Comp Hiarcs, HIARCS 11.2 MP."]
[Black "Tiger Lilov"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A85"]
[WhiteElo "3174"]
[BlackElo "2878"]
[PlyCount "264"]
[EventDate "2007.07.31"]
[EventType "blitz"]

{Ducats=5+- 5} 1. d4 {0} d5 {2} 2. c4 {0} e6 {1} 3. Nc3 {0} f5 {2} 4. Nf3 {0}
c6 {1} 5. Bf4 {0} Nf6 {1} 6. e3 {0} Bd6 {0} 7. Bd3 {0} O-O {1} 8. O-O {0} Qc7 {
1} 9. Bxd6 {11} Qxd6 {0} 10. Qb3 {8} Kh8 {4} 11. c5 {10} Qc7 {3} 12. Ne2 {7} g6
{2} 13. Rac1 {11} Re8 {1} 14. Nf4 {9} Nbd7 {2} 15. Ng5 {7} Nf8 {1} 16. Qa3 {8}
Kg7 {2} 17. Be2 {6} Bd7 {1} 18. Nf3 {4} a6 {1} 19. Qa4 {8} Re7 {2} 20. b4 {6}
Rae8 {1} 21. Nd3 {3} Bc8 {5} 22. Qc2 {0} Bd7 {1} 23. Rb1 {5} Kg8 {1} 24. Nde5 {
7} Rg7 {1} 25. Ng5 {4} Rge7 {3} 26. a4 {7} Rc8 {4} 27. f4 {6} Be8 {2} 28. Ngf3
{2} Qd8 {5} 29. Bd3 {3} Qc7 {1} 30. Qf2 {4} Rg7 {7} 31. Qh4 {2} Qe7 {2} 32.
Rfe1 {4} Nh5 {11} 33. Qh3 {2} Nf6 {2} 34. Qh6 {2} N8d7 {10} 35. Nxd7 {0} Bxd7 {
4} 36. Ne5 {0} Be8 {4} 37. Red1 {0} Nd7 {3} 38. Nf3 {0} Nf6 {5} 39. h3 {0} Bf7
{2} 40. Qg5 {2} Be8 {1} 41. Rf1 {0} Nd7 {4} 42. Qh6 {0} Nf6 {1} 43. Kh2 {2} Nd7
{2} 44. Ng5 {1} Nf6 {1} 45. Rbc1 {1} Bd7 {3} 46. Nf3 {1} Rf8 {2} 47. Ne5 {1}
Be8 {1} 48. Rfd1 {1} Nd7 {2} 49. Nf3 {0} Nf6 {1} 50. Ng5 {2} Nd7 {2} 51. Rh1 {2
} Nf6 {1} 52. Rhf1 {0} Bd7 {1} 53. Nf3 {1} Be8 {1} 54. Rcd1 {0} Bd7 {1} 55. a5
{1} Bc8 {2} 56. Rc1 {1} Bd7 {0} 57. Ne5 {1} Bc8 {0} 58. Rc2 {2} Nd7 {0} 59. Nf3
{1} Nf6 {1} 60. Kg1 {1} Bd7 {2} 61. Re2 {2} Bc8 {0} 62. Ree1 {1} Bd7 {0} 63.
Ne5 {0} Bc8 {0} 64. Bc2 {0} Nd7 {1} 65. Nf3 {0} Nf6 {0} 66. Ne5 {0} Nd7 {1} 67.
Nf3 {1} Nf6 {0} 68. Kh2 {0} Bd7 {1} 69. Ne5 {0} Bc8 {0} 70. g4 {0} Nd7 {7} 71.
Nf3 {0} Nf6 {1} 72. Rg1 {0} Bd7 {' 8} 73. g5 {0} Ne8 {4} 74. Kh1 {0} Nc7 {4}
75. Ne5 {0} Be8 {1} 76. Bd3 {0} Rgf7 {4} 77. Nxf7 {0} Qxf7 {0} 78. Ref1 {0} Qg7
{1} 79. Qxg7+ {0} Kxg7 {0} 80. Kg2 {0} Bf7 {1} 81. Kf3 {0} Rg8 {1} 82. h4 {0}
Ne8 {3} 83. Rf2 {0} Kf8 {1} 84. Ke2 {0} Kg7 {0} 85. Kd2 {0} Kf8 {0} 86. Rh2 {0}
Kg7 {0} 87. Be2 {0} Kf8 {1} 88. h5 {0} Ng7 {2} 89. hxg6 {0} hxg6 {0} 90. Rh7 {0
} Be8 {1} 91. Rgh1 {0} Bf7 {0} 92. R7h6 {0} Be8 {0} 93. R1h3 {0} Bf7 {0} 94.
Kc3 {0} Be8 {0} 95. Rh7 {0} Bf7 {0} 96. Rh2 {0} Be8 {0} 97. Bd3 {0} Bf7 {0} 98.
R7h6 {0} Be8 {0} 99. R2h3 {0} Bf7 {0} 100. Kd2 {0} Be8 {0} 101. Rh7 {0} Bf7 {0}
102. Rh1 {0} Be8 {0} 103. R1h2 {0} Bf7 {0} 104. R7h4 {0} Be8 {0} 105. Be2 {0}
Bf7 {0} 106. R4h3 {0} Be8 {0} 107. Rh7 {0} Bf7 {0} 108. Rh1 {0} Be8 {0} 109.
Kd3 {0} Bf7 {0} 110. Kc3 {0} Be8 {0} 111. Bf3 {0} Bf7 {0} 112. R1h2 {0} Be8 {0}
113. Kd3 {0} Bf7 {0} 114. Rg2 {0} Be8 {0} 115. Rc2 {0} Bf7 {0} 116. Rch2 {0}
Be8 {0} 117. Bd1 {0} Bf7 {0} 118. R7h3 {0} Be8 {0} 119. Rh6 {0} Bf7 {1} 120.
Be2 {0} Be8 {1} 121. Bf3 {0} Bf7 {0} 122. Kd2 {0} Be8 {0} 123. Rh7 {0} Bf7 {0}
124. R2h3 {0} Be8 {0} 125. Kc3 {0} Bf7 {0} 126. Be2 {0} Be8 {0} 127. Bd3 {0}
Bf7 {0} 128. R7h4 {0} Be8 {0} 129. Rh1 {. 0} Nh5 {1} 130. R4h3 {0} Bf7 {1} 131.
Be2 {0} Be8 {0} 132. Kd2 {0} Bf7 {Zeit (Lag: Av=0.22s, max=0.6s) 2} 0-1

Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost again!!

Diagram last position:

[d]5kr1/1p3b2/p1p1p1p1/P1Pp1pPn/1P1P1P2/4P2R/3KB3/7R w - - 0 1

Very stupid playing by Hiarcs 11.2 MP

BTW: The last game was played for Ducats {Ducats=5+- 5} !
swami
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by swami »

You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
Guetti

Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Guetti »

swami wrote:You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
You got it right!
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by swami »

Guetti wrote:
swami wrote:You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
You got it right!
and...he is on his own special witch hunt :P
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Roman Hartmann »

The two losses were only possible because of premoving. Shuffling the pieces behind a pawn wall and winning on time is some kind of art but not really chess.
If Hiarcs (or any other chess engine) would be programmed to do that (close the position and shuffle the pieces around with premoves) it would be unbeatable in that regard too. But as Hiarcs (or any other chess engine I know) is programmed to play chess rather than trying to win on time they have a weak spot there. Personally I don't think that this problem is interesting enough to even care about ...

Roman
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Roman Hartmann wrote:The two losses were only possible because of premoving. Shuffling the pieces behind a pawn wall and winning on time is some kind of art but not really chess.
If Hiarcs (or any other chess engine) would be programmed to do that (close the position and shuffle the pieces around with premoves) it would be unbeatable in that regard too. But as Hiarcs (or any other chess engine I know) is programmed to play chess rather than trying to win on time they have a weak spot there. Personally I don't think that this problem is interesting enough to even care about ...

Roman
Well said Roman :D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Guetti

Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Guetti »

swami wrote:
Guetti wrote:
swami wrote:You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
You got it right!
and...he is on his own special witch hunt :P

Exactly. But, I edited that before it causes troubles. :lol:
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Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Father »

Hello Eduard,

These games were great. Well done !!! :D :D :D :D :D :D

Macines to continue in troubles !!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Best regards,

Pablo :D :D
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
Edward German

Re: I and Father are not alone - Hiarcs 11.2 MP lost!

Post by Edward German »

swami wrote:You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
No!

For me are alike all engine.

I write about Fritz or Rybka exactly the same as about Hiarcs or other programs, anyway by AntiChess.

You dream!
Edward German

Re: Moderation pleas STOP this personal Attack!

Post by Edward German »

swami wrote:
Guetti wrote:
swami wrote:You post this because you have bias towards Harvey and Hiarcs team?
You got it right!
and...he is on his own special witch hunt :P
I write about all engines egual! See my another post.