Where is the evidence to be found?

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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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GenoM wrote:
geots wrote:
GenoM wrote:
geots wrote:I can without a doubt tell you what i am not: a "follow the crowd simpleton".
Neither am I.
In fact, my opinion is that you with your emotions are just increasing the noise in this topic.
102nd time: Put up or shut up
Do you feel some kind superior to me, George? :lol:
The shell game again. Getting old here. Stay on target and produce evidence. Hell, if you dont have any- which you dont- jsut make some up. Everyone else is.
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Zach Wegner wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, but I suppose you didn't see this: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 68&#211968

That's peanuts compared to what I've seen. So yes, even more will be "put up". The question is, when will you "shut up"??

My friend, you are adding a new meaning to "beating a dead horse to death" Christophe has said he is thru with programming, Bob has shot his wad- so that just leaves you. Shame that they would pump you up and then let you be dragged thru the mud like this.
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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geots wrote:
GenoM wrote:
geots wrote:
GenoM wrote:
geots wrote:I can without a doubt tell you what i am not: a "follow the crowd simpleton".
Neither am I.
In fact, my opinion is that you with your emotions are just increasing the noise in this topic.
102nd time: Put up or shut up
Do you feel some kind superior to me, George? :lol:
The shell game again. Getting old here. Stay on target and produce evidence. Hell, if you dont have any- which you dont- jsut make some up. Everyone else is.
You have no answer, have you, George?
take it easy :)
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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geots wrote:
bob wrote:I assume your only goal here is to keep posting so much "nothing" that you try to drown out all the legitimate discussion? If so, in a way you are making some progress, but the discussion probably won't die until a final conclusion is reached, like it or not.

So cluttering up the threads with such nonsense is just cluttering up the thread, but it won't go away as a result.

"Legitimate discussion" ???? Exactly where in the hell would that be. Havent seen it on this forum in 6 days. Andas for a final conclusion, it has been reached, dear heart. You cant prove anything- you wont prove anything- except that you are fairly good at giving people headaches with all your jibber-jabber.
Fine. You seem to have developed into a synonym for hemorrhoid, if you get my drift. And perhaps, just perhaps, one day you will finally realize that the only thing I have tried to "prove" is that the identical-by-chance explanation is nonsense. I can certainly look at what has been presented and draw conclusions. Or I can stick my head where it clearly doesn't belong, as you have, and not look at anything at all...
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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geots wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, but I suppose you didn't see this: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 68&#211968

That's peanuts compared to what I've seen. So yes, even more will be "put up". The question is, when will you "shut up"??

My friend, you are adding a new meaning to "beating a dead horse to death" Christophe has said he is thru with programming, Bob has shot his wad- so that just leaves you. Shame that they would pump you up and then let you be dragged thru the mud like this.
You can say "I am done" all you want. But when you extract your head so that you are seeing something besides large intestines, I am still going to be around. Again "I am done when I _say_ I am done." You have no input in that decision whatsoever. And I have no problems overlooking most of your contentless posts as well, so that is also not going to eventually drive me out of the discussion.

Nice try, but no success...
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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geots wrote:
bob wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
henkf wrote:Why don't you give them some time to produce the results of their research, instead of flaming the results before they are produced?
Well, considering they have started threads, and produced hundreds of posts on the matter, it seems strange to me to be asked to now wait for the results to be produced. What were the claims based on? The number of letters in the name?

Furthermore, the evidence presented will have to show that it is what helps Fruit play as well as it does, and this is also what helps Rybka play as well as it does. Otherwise, the evidence really wouldn't be any better than identical UCI protocols.

Albert
What _is_ the intent here. To deflect attention elsewhere once more? The evidence does _not_ have to show that is what helps fruit do anything. It only has to show that fruit was copied. Where are you trying to go with this? The goal of the two original investigators here was to simply answer the question "was rybka derived from fruit?" why is it necessary to have a continually shifting target and why do others get to dictate what Zach and Christophe were trying to answer?

Quite simply, copying _any part_ of a GPL program is not permissable. _any part_. Not just "key parts".

Whew. I see credibility sprouting wings and flying away. I would be real careful here.
I was thinking more along the lines that I had no more to add than the above drivel, I might consider shutting up for a bit myself...
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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bob wrote:
geots wrote:
Zach Wegner wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, but I suppose you didn't see this: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 68&#211968

That's peanuts compared to what I've seen. So yes, even more will be "put up". The question is, when will you "shut up"??

My friend, you are adding a new meaning to "beating a dead horse to death" Christophe has said he is thru with programming, Bob has shot his wad- so that just leaves you. Shame that they would pump you up and then let you be dragged thru the mud like this.
You can say "I am done" all you want. But when you extract your head so that you are seeing something besides large intestines, I am still going to be around. Again "I am done when I _say_ I am done." You have no input in that decision whatsoever. And I have no problems overlooking most of your contentless posts as well, so that is also not going to eventually drive me out of the discussion.

Nice try, but no success...

As far as this Rybka discussion goes, i dont have to do anything but sit back- you have plenty of rope to hang yourself.
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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bob wrote:
geots wrote:
bob wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
henkf wrote:Why don't you give them some time to produce the results of their research, instead of flaming the results before they are produced?
Well, considering they have started threads, and produced hundreds of posts on the matter, it seems strange to me to be asked to now wait for the results to be produced. What were the claims based on? The number of letters in the name?

Furthermore, the evidence presented will have to show that it is what helps Fruit play as well as it does, and this is also what helps Rybka play as well as it does. Otherwise, the evidence really wouldn't be any better than identical UCI protocols.

Albert
What _is_ the intent here. To deflect attention elsewhere once more? The evidence does _not_ have to show that is what helps fruit do anything. It only has to show that fruit was copied. Where are you trying to go with this? The goal of the two original investigators here was to simply answer the question "was rybka derived from fruit?" why is it necessary to have a continually shifting target and why do others get to dictate what Zach and Christophe were trying to answer?

Quite simply, copying _any part_ of a GPL program is not permissable. _any part_. Not just "key parts".

Whew. I see credibility sprouting wings and flying away. I would be real careful here.
I was thinking more along the lines that I had no more to add than the above drivel, I might consider shutting up for a bit myself...
Now, now Bob- dont lose your cool as well.
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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Thanks Terry and Nom for kind words, if possible I will try to write something I could,to try to refute someone's points, especially, in non techincal matters, on either or both side of the arguments. :wink:
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Re: Where is the evidence to be found?

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swami wrote:Thanks Terry and Nom for kind words, if possible I will try to write something I could,to try to refute someone's points, especially, in non techincal matters, on either or both side of the arguments. :wink:
You could tell George to behave. If I said what he has said I'd be banned for the mod term!!!

I was banned for a day without explanation for far far less...and hadn't been warned...had to guess why...and still not certain why. I read the thread...I wasn't upset, no need to cool off...for what??

You tell me...