Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink 5.1.

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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Hi Oliver,

Previous version of Olithink is playing in this Grand Blitz tournament

http://64.68.157.89/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24325

Once the tournament is finished..I'll add the latest version to see the progress and compare it with the existing one. :)

Regards.
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Michael Sherwin wrote:
BubbaTough wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:Very nice Oliver! :D I hope that you will request Olithink to play in Olivier Deville's next open war tournament. Engines play by author request only.
I think it is playing right now in division E. It snatched 1/2 a point from LearningLemming in the first round (and LearningLemming was hard pressed to get the draw) but has not done as well in subsequent rounds.

http://www.open-aurec.com/chesswar/Ches ... 013E00.htm

-Sam
Oliver is claiming a big strength increase for 5.1.6 and it is 5.1.4 that is playing in Olivier's division E tourney. Maybe Olivier should restart his div. E tourney with the new OliThink! :lol:

Romi - Oli, so far 20.5/33 +19 -11 =3
The page I quoted seems to imply that 5.1.6 (not 5.1.4) is playing in the division. I guess its possible that there was an update part way through as anything goes in Chesswar, but for some reason I did not think that was the case.
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
I dont think this is fair. I think due to our testing at 1min+1sec only, Romi is ultra optimized for that time control.
You could be right. However, Oliver stated that OliThink does really well at fast time limits.
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
RomiChessP3k - OliThink : 63.0/100 47-21-32 (111=====11=110==000=1=1=01=11111=10111101=11111110=10010=0==101=01=1=1111==0111===1==000101100==11==) 63% +92

Now I do not know what to think.
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
I dont think this is fair. I think due to our testing at 1min+1sec only, Romi is ultra optimized for that time control.
You could be right. However, Oliver stated that OliThink does really well at fast time limits.
That was based on game in 5 seconds or something. Many of the engines doesnt do well at something that quick. Go ahead and send the beta myway..
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
I dont think this is fair. I think due to our testing at 1min+1sec only, Romi is ultra optimized for that time control.
You could be right. However, Oliver stated that OliThink does really well at fast time limits.
That was based on game in 5 seconds or something. Many of the engines doesnt do well at something that quick. Go ahead and send the beta myway..
It is only an alpha. I some some more work to do to make it a beta. ASAP
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
I dont think this is fair. I think due to our testing at 1min+1sec only, Romi is ultra optimized for that time control.
You could be right. However, Oliver stated that OliThink does really well at fast time limits.
That was based on game in 5 seconds or something. Many of the engines doesnt do well at something that quick. Go ahead and send the beta myway..
It is only an alpha. I some some more work to do to make it a beta. ASAP
On a side note, I figured out how to enable autoKibitz with the help of Robindu.
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Great, that will mean that you get a beta, sooner!
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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Michael Sherwin wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
RomiChessP3k - OliThink : 63.0/100 47-21-32 (111=====11=110==000=1=1=01=11111=10111101=11111110=10010=0==101=01=1=1111==0111===1==000101100==11==) 63% +92

Now I do not know what to think.
i don't understand, are you disappointed by OliThink's performance or vice versa?
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Re: Tournament with OliThink, Crafty and Glaurung. OliThink

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OliverBr wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:RomiChess96c - OliThink : 63.5/100 56-29-15 (1110011000=110111011011010=11=011100111101=1101010011111==10011=11=1=000111100=1=1=111101==111=00110) 64% +100

I will run OliThink against the last released version of RomiChess (P3k) to get a further comparison. So far RomiChess96c is testing about CCRL 2650 ELO, but I seriously doubt that it is that strong. RomiChessP3k is CCRL rated about ELO 2507. When this next match is finished we should know more. :)
RomiChessP3k - OliThink : 63.0/100 47-21-32 (111=====11=110==000=1=1=01=11111=10111101=11111110=10010=0==101=01=1=1111==0111===1==000101100==11==) 63% +92

Now I do not know what to think.
i don't understand, are you disappointed by OliThink's performance or vice versa?
I was hoping that RomiChessP3k would not do as well as RomiChess96c as that would indicate that 96c is indeed ~100 elo stronger. And that OliThink 5.1.6 was at least 2500 elo. However, this result of P3k vs 5.1.6 does not support that conclusion. So now I do not know what to think.

To try for clarification I am playing OliThink 5.1.6 vs Hamsters 0.2

So far the results are OliThink 5.1.6 vs Hamsters 0.2 35/83, +24 -37 =22, 42%, -56

So my best guess at this time is CCRL 2425 < 5.1.6 <2475
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