THINKER 5.3B - A VERY STRONG ENGINE !

[Sylwy]

http://cid-2991af457de54bf0.skydrive.li ... ker53B.zip

Hi!

Who belongs to the new UCI? Is it "Glaurung" or something else?


Regards Torbjorn

1.Thinker 5.3B is a WB ( Winboard ) engine .
2.Thinker has nothing to do with Glaurung ! The final version never joins Vallhala ! His " father " is a Canadian from Toronto-Lance Perkins ! I don't belive to be one of Tord's cousins !
So........is something else ! Sorry !


Viking regards,
Silvian

PS: a furore Normandorum........................

[Lilleemester]

http://cid-2991af457de54bf0.skydrive.li ... ker53B.zip

Hi!

Who belongs to the new UCI? Is it "Glaurung" or something else?


Regards Torbjorn

1.Thinker 5.3B is a WB ( Winboard ) engine .
2.Thinker has nothing to do with Glaurung ! The final version never joins Vallhala ! His " father " is a Canadian from Toronto-Lance Perkins ! I don't belive to be one of Tord's cousins !
So........is something else ! Sorry !


Viking regards,
Silvian

PS: a furore Normandorum........................

Hi!

Thank you for your reply. I understand what you mean. Just nice!

Regards Torbjorn

[Werewolf]

First of all congratulations on producing a really strong, fun chess engine.

Secondly I have add my own feelings that UCI would be very welcome by the general public. I hope you choose to go commercial with your program - I'm sure it will be a great sucess like a new Junior - but UCI is just the only way for the general masses.

I'm sure winboard has some advantages over UCI but it is also a pain if you use chessbase products.

[Tony Thomas]

First of all congratulations on producing a really strong, fun chess engine.

Secondly I have add my own feelings that UCI would be very welcome by the general public. I hope you choose to go commercial with your program - I'm sure it will be a great sucess like a new Junior - but UCI is just the only way for the general masses.

I'm sure winboard has some advantages over UCI but it is also a pain if you use chessbase products.

I prefer winboard engines, most of the stronger ones have better learning features, so you wont have to see your favorite engine lose the same opening over and over without any changes to the movelist.

[ernest]

I prefer winboard engines, most of the stronger ones have better learning features, ...

Could you elaborate...?

But anyway, it seems that Lance has a real bad feeling against UCI... so be it!

[Ovyron]

Could you elaborate...?

+1

Some UCI engines that support learning: Spike, Shredder, Hiarcs, Naum, Rybka...

[Tony Thomas]

Could you elaborate...?

+1

Some UCI engines that support learning: Spike, Shredder, Hiarcs, Naum, Rybka...

None of them keep tracks of win/loss ratio as far as I am aware. My understanding was that the engine doesnt know any of those things when operating under UCI.

[Ovyron]

None of them keep tracks of win/loss ratio as far as I am aware.

But it seems evaluation based learning is more powerful.

[geots]

... myself I am not interested anymore in WB-only engines....

ditto - IMHO it's just plain laziness not to implement UCI.

Steve

My apologies, that our choice of protocol is a disappointment to you.

It is a conscious decision. In the future, there will be a new set of features in the Thinker engine that will be impossible for UCI to support.

It is also a personal choice. I personally would not design a protocol the way UCI is designed. And so, I choose not to code for it.

Again, my apologies.

No need to apologize to me. I run ONLY UCI or winboard that can be CONVERTED TO UCI. If you are of the mind to fix your engine so it cannot in any way be run as UCI- that will make me happy. Then i will not have to worry at all with an engine that shows no output, as i have to now as a tester. (But i dont enjoy it). Have a nice day and a wonderful life.

PS: You do not care for UCI- you have that choice and i respect it.
I do not care at all for your engine- that is my choice and please
respect it.

[geots]

PS: You do not care for UCI- you have that choice and i respect it.
I do not care at all for your engine- that is my choice and please
respect it.

Don't worry, George, I am sure Lance is not going take any steps to force Thinker on you.

The point being that i run engines that need games the most- which often times will be a Thinker version. I hate to run any of them, because they show no output- but i run them anyway because that is my job. Once he has fixed Thinker so I CANT- then there will be no crisis of conscience, and we will all be happier.