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Re: the worlds ugliest novelty

Post by Dann Corbit »

Here are a few games (mostly fast paced and so of dubious quality):

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[Event "Partien Computerschach"]
[Site "-"]
[Date "2004.12.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Wing v1.1"]
[Black "Zotron v4.4.6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.e4 e5 6.Nc3 Qd7 7.g5 Qe6 8.d4 
cxd3 9.Qxd3 Bb4 10.Bd2 h5 11.O-O-O Bd7 12.Nf3 Qd6 13.Qc4 Be6 14.Qa6 Bc8 
15.Qa4 Bg4 16.Be1 Qe6 17.Nd5 Rc8 18.Rd3 Bxe1 19.Rxe1 Bxf3 20.Rxf3 Qg6 21.
h4 Qd6 22.Nc3 Ra8 23.Qc4 Qe6 24.Qxe6+ fxe6 25.Na4 Rd8 26.Nc5 Ke7 27.Ra3 
Rd4 28.b3 Kd6 29.Nb7+ Kd7 30.Rxa7 Ne7 31.Nc5+ Kd6 32.Nb7+ Kd7 33.Rh1 Rb8 
34.Nc5+ Kd6 35.Nb7+ Rxb7 36.Rxb7 Rxe4 37.Rb8 Re2 38.Rd1+ Nd5 39.Rd2 Re4 
40.Rg8 Rxh4 41.Rxg7 Rh1+ 42.Kb2 c5 43.Re2 Rh2 44.Rg8 e4 45.g6 Rg2 46.g7 
Ke7 47.Rh8 Rxg7 48.Rxe4 Rg2 49.Rh7+ Kd6 50.Re2 Rh2 51.Rc2 c6 52.Kc1 Rh1+ 
53.Kb2 Rh2 54.Kc1 Rh1+ 55.Kd2 Nf6 56.Rf7 Nd5 57.Rc4 Nb4 58.a3 Nd5 59.a4 e5
60.Rf3 Rh2 61.a5 h4 62.a6 Nc7 63.a7 Ke7 64.Rxc5 e4 65.Rxc6 Na8 66.Rf4 Kd7 
67.Rh6 e3+ 68.Kxe3 1-0

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Phalanx 20"]
[Black "Zappa 0.8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.Qa4 Qd5 6.Nf3 Qb5 7.Nc3 Qxa4 8.
Nxa4 Bxg4 9.Ne5 Nf6 10.Rg1 Be6 11.Nc5 Bd5 12.Na6 Rc8 13.Nb4 a5 14.Nbxc6 
Ra8 15.b4 Bxc6 16.Nxc6 axb4 17.Nxb4 Kd7 18.Bb2 e6 19.Nc2 Rb8 20.Bd4 c5 21.
Be5 Bd6 22.Bxd6 Kxd6 23.Ne3 c3 24.Rxg7 cxd2+ 25.Kxd2 Ke7 26.Nc4 Rhd8+ 27.
Kc2 Ne4 28.Rag1 Rd4 29.Ne5 Kf6 30.f4 Rd2+ 31.Kc1 Rb7 32.Rxh7 Rxe2 33.Rgg7 
Nd6 34.a3 c4 35.Rg3 Rbb2 36.Rgg7 Kf5 37.Rh5+ Ke4 38.Nxf7 Nxf7 39.Rxf7 
Rec2+ 40.Kd1 Rf2 41.Ke1 Rg2 42.Kf1 Rgc2 43.Re5+ Kf3 44.Rd7 Rb1+ 45.Rd1 
Rxd1+ 46.Re1 Rf2+ 47.Kg1 Rxe1# 0-1

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Damas 6.0"]
[Black "Gringo v1.4.0.21l"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.h3 Qd5 6.Nf3 h5 7.Nc3 Qa5 8.g5 
Be6 9.Kf1 O-O-O 10.Kg1 g6 11.e4 Bg7 12.Ne2 Qc5 13.Nf4 Qd6 14.Nxe6 Qxe6 15.
Qe2 f5 16.e5 Rd3 17.Rb1 f4 18.Qe4 Qd5 19.Qxg6 Qxf3 20.Qxg7 Qxh1+ 21.Kxh1 
Rd8 22.Qxh8 Nf6 23.Qh6 1-0

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Esc 1.16"]
[Black "Chezzz 1.0.3"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.h3 h5 6.g5 e5 7.h4 Bd6 8.Nf3 
Ne7 9.Nc3 O-O 10.d4 cxd3 11.Qxd3 Bg4 12.O-O Qb8 13.Rd1 Rd8 14.Qc2 Qb4 15.
a3 Qc4 16.Nd2 Qa6 17.Nf3 Rd7 18.Be3 Rad8 19.Rd2 Nf5 20.Qe4 Nxe3 21.fxe3 
Qb6 22.Rad1 Be6 23.Kh1 Bb3 24.Rc1 a6 25.Na4 Qa5 26.Nc3 Qb6 27.Na4 Qa5 28.
Nc3 Qc5 29.Rg1 Qb6 30.a4 Qc5 31.g6 f6 32.Qf5 Qxe3 33.Qxh5 e4 34.Nd1 Bxd1 
35.Rgxd1 exf3 36.exf3 a5 37.Rd3 Qe6 38.Qh7+ Kf8 39.Qh8+ Qg8 40.Qh5 Rb8 41.
R3d2 c5 42.Qf5 Re7 43.h5 Rbe8 44.Kg1 Qc4 45.Rf1 Re1 46.Qh3 Bf4 47.Rd1 Rxd1
0-1

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.12"]
[Round "?"]
[White "GES v1.30"]
[Black "Ax 0.8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.e4 e5 6.Nc3 Qd3 7.h4 Bc5 8.Rh3 
Qd4 9.Rh2 Ne7 10.h5 Qd6 11.g5 Be6 12.Nf3 O-O 13.h6 g6 14.Rg2 a5 15.Rg1 
Rad8 16.Qa4 f5 17.Rg2 Qd3 18.Ng1 Bb6 19.Qa3 Rd7 20.Rg3 Qc2 21.exf5 Nxf5 
22.Rf3 Bd5 23.Nxd5 cxd5 24.Ne2 Rdf7 25.Nc3 Nh4 26.Rf6 Rxf6 27.Rb1 Rxf2 28.
Ra1 Nf3# 0-1

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Gaviota v0.33"]
[Black "Eeyore 1.48"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.g5 e5 6.Qa4 Bd7 7.Nf3 e4 8.Ne5 
Qxg5 9.Nxd7 Kxd7 10.Nc3 Qg2 11.Rf1 Nf6 12.Qxc4 Qg6 13.h4 Bd6 14.b3 Rhb8 
15.h5 Qxh5 16.Nxe4 Nxe4 17.Qxe4 Re8 18.Rh1 Qb5 19.Qg4+ f5 20.Qh5 g6 21.Qf3
h5 22.Rg1 Rxe2+ 23.Qxe2 Re8 24.Qxe8+ Kxe8 25.Bb2 Kf7 26.Kd1 h4 27.Rc1 Qd3 
28.Rc4 h3 29.Rh4 Qb1+ 30.Bc1 h2 31.Re1 Qxa2 32.Re3 Qb1 33.Rc3 Be5 34.d4 
Bf4 35.Rhh3 Qa1 36.Rc4 Kg8 37.d5 Bxc1 38.Rxc1 Qd4+ 39.Kc2 Qxf2+ 40.Kb1 Qg2
41.Rh4 Qg3 0-1

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Madeleine 0.2"]
[Black "Delphil v0.9f"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.g5 e5 6.Nc3 Qxg5 7.Nf3 Qg6 8.
Rg1 Qe6 9.Rg3 Ne7 10.Kf1 Nf5 11.Rg2 Be7 12.Kg1 e4 13.Ng5 Bxg5 14.Rxg5 f6 
15.Rh5 Ne3 16.dxe3 Qg4+ 17.Kh1 Qxh5 18.Qd4 Qg6 19.Bd2 Bg4 20.Rd1 Qf5 21.
Kg1 Qe6 22.Qxe4 Qxe4 23.Nxe4 Bxe2 24.Re1 Bf3 25.Ng3 Kf7 26.Nf5 c5 27.a3 
Rad8 28.Bc3 Rhe8 29.Ba5 Rd7 30.Ng3 Red8 31.h3 Ke6 32.h4 Rd1 33.Rxd1 Rxd1+ 
34.Kh2 h5 35.e4 g5 36.Nf5 Rh1+ 37.Kg3 Bxe4 38.Ne3 Rg1+ 39.Kh2 Rb1 0-1

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "NagaSkaki v3.07"]
[Black "Requiem 0.53"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.g5 h6 6.g6 fxg6 7.Nc3 Qd6 8.Qa4
Qc5 9.b3 cxb3 10.axb3 a6 11.Ba3 Qb6 12.Qc4 e6 13.Bxf8 Kxf8 14.Nf3 Ne7 15.
Ne5 Ke8 16.O-O Rb8 17.Ra4 Rf8 18.b4 Rf5 19.Nd3 e5 20.Qa2 Kd8 21.Nc5 Rf4 
22.Rb1 Bh3 23.N3e4 a5 24.f3 axb4 25.Raxb4 Qxb4 26.Rxb4 Rxb4 27.Qa8+ Bc8 
28.Ne6+ Kd7 29.Nxf4 Rb1+ 30.Kg2 exf4 31.Qa4 Ke8 32.Nc3 Rb2 33.Qxf4 Ba6 34.
Kf2 Bc8 35.Qd4 Nf5 36.Qe5+ Kd8 37.Ne4 Ra2 38.Qc3 Be6 39.Qxc6 Bf7 40.Qc5 
Kd7 41.Qb5+ Ke7 42.Qb4+ Kd8 43.d4 Ne7 44.Qb5 Nd5 45.Nc5 Nb6 46.Qc6 Kc8 47.
Qe4 Kd8 48.Qf4 Ke8 49.Qxc7 Bc4 50.Qxb6 Rxe2+ 51.Kg3 Kf7 52.Ne4 Kg8 53.Qd8+
Kh7 54.Qc7 1-0

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "OliThink v4.1.3"]
[Black "Bodo v0.2b"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.h3 h5 6.g5 e5 7.Qa4 Bd7 8.h4 a5
9.Qxc4 Bd6 10.Nc3 Rb8 11.d3 Ne7 12.Nf3 O-O 13.b3 Rb4 14.Qa6 Qa8 15.Qxa8 
Rxa8 16.Kd2 Bg4 17.Ne1 Rb6 18.Nc2 Nd5 19.Na4 Rb5 20.f3 Bd7 21.e4 Nf4 22.d4
exd4 23.Nxd4 Rb7 24.Kc2 Ng6 25.Bb2 c5 26.Nf5 Bxa4 27.bxa4 Be5 28.Rab1 Bxb2
29.Rxb2 Rb4 30.a3 Rxb2+ 31.Kxb2 Rd8 32.Kc2 c4 33.Rd1 Rxd1 34.Kxd1 Ne5 35.
Ke2 c3 36.Ne3 Kf8 37.f4 Ng4 38.e5 Nxe3 39.Kxe3 Ke7 40.f5 g6 41.Kd3 gxf5 
42.Kxc3 Ke6 43.Kd4 c6 44.Kc5 Kxe5 45.Kc4 Ke4 46.Kc3 f4 0-1

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "OliThink v4.1.3"]
[Black "Monarch 1.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.h3 h5 6.g5 e5 7.Qa4 Bb7 8.h4 
Qd5 9.Nf3 a5 10.Nc3 Qe6 11.Nd1 Bc5 12.Ne3 e4 13.Ng1 Bxe3 14.dxe3 Ne7 15.
Bd2 Nc8 16.Bc3 O-O 17.Nh3 Nb6 18.Qc2 Nd5 19.Nf4 Nxf4 20.exf4 c5 21.Qa4 
Rfd8 22.Kf1 Bd5 23.Qa3 Qb6 24.Kg2 f5 25.gxf6 gxf6 26.Kh2 Kh7 27.Rhg1 Rf8 
28.Rad1 c6 29.Qa4 Qd8 30.e3 Qe7 31.Kh1 Qd7 32.Rg3 Qf7 33.Rdg1 Ra7 34.Qa3 
Qe7 35.Rg7+ Qxg7 36.Rxg7+ Rxg7 37.Qxc5 Rfg8 38.Bxf6 Rg1+ 39.Kh2 R8g2+ 40.
Kh3 Rg4 41.Qe7+ Kg6 42.f5+ Kxf5 43.Be5 Rh1+ 44.Bh2 Kg6 45.Qd6+ Kh7 46.Qe5 
Rg6 47.Qxh5+ Kg7 48.Qe5+ Kg8 49.h5 Be6+ 50.Kh4 Rg4+ 51.Kh3 Bd7 52.Qb8+ Kh7
53.Qc7 Rd1 54.Bg3 Rg5+ 55.Kg2 Rxh5 56.Bd6 Rg5+ 57.Kh2 Rg7 58.Be5 Rf7 59.
Kg3 Rf1 60.Qd8 Rf3+ 61.Kh2 R3xf2+ 62.Kg3 Rf7 63.Qh4+ Kg6 64.Qxe4+ R1f5 65.
Bf4 Kh7 66.Qxc4 Kg8 67.Kf3 Rb5 68.b3 Rh5 69.Ke4 Rd5 70.a3 Rh5 71.Kd3 Rb5 
72.e4 c5 73.Ke3 Rb6 74.Qd5 c4 75.Qg5+ Kh7 76.b4 Rc6 77.Qh4+ Kg7 78.Qd8 Re6
79.Qg5+ Kh7 80.Qxa5 Rfe7 81.Qh5+ Kg8 82.Qd5 Bc6 83.Qxc4 Bxe4 84.Be5 Bg6 
85.Kd2 Bf7 86.Bd4 Re4 87.Qc8+ Re8 88.Qd7 Rh4 89.a4 Rh2+ 90.Kc3 Rh6 91.Qg4+
Rg6 92.Qh3 Kf8 93.b5 Re2 94.a5 Rgg2 95.Qh8+ Ke7 96.Bf6+ Ke6 97.Kb4 Rh2 98.
Qd8 Bh5 99.Bc3 Rhf2 100.Bd4 Rb2+ 101.Bxb2 Rxb2+ 102.Kc5 Rc2+ 103.Kb6 Bg6 
104.a6 Be4 105.Qe8+ Kf5 106.a7 Kf4 107.Qe6 Rf2 108.Qxe4+ Kxe4 109.a8=Q+ 
Kd4 110.Qd8+ Ke3 111.Qd5 Re2 112.Kc6 Rc2+ 113.Kd6 Rf2 114.b6 Rf8 115.Ke7 
Rf1 116.Qc5+ Ke2 117.b7 Re1 118.b8=Q Kf3+ 119.Kf7 Rf1 120.Kg6 Rg1+ 121.
Qxg1 Ke4 122.Qd6 Kf3 123.Qdc5 Ke2 124.Qce3# 1-0

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Phalanx XXIIc"]
[Black "Fritz 7"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.Qa4 Qd5 6.Nf3 Qb5 7.Qa3 Bxg4 8.
Nc3 Qh5 9.Nd4 Qg6 10.Qb4 Bc8 11.Nf3 Qe6 12.Qc5 Bb7 13.Rb1 Nf6 14.Rg1 Nd7 
15.Qa5 Nb6 16.Ng5 Qd6 17.Qf5 Qf6 18.Qh3 h6 19.Nge4 Qe5 20.f4 Qa5 21.f5 Nd5
22.b4 cxb3 23.Rxb3 Bc8 24.Qf3 Bd7 25.Rf1 e5 26.Bb2 Nf4 27.f6 g6 28.Nf2 Bd6
29.h3 Rd8 30.Qh1 Ne6 31.Nfe4 Nd4 32.Nxd6+ cxd6 33.Ne4 Nxb3 34.Nxd6+ Kf8 
35.axb3 Qb4 36.Bxe5 Qh4+ 37.Kd1 Qxh3 38.Qxh3 Bxh3 39.Rf3 Be6 40.b4 Ra8 41.
Nb7 Bd5 42.Ra3 h5 43.Nc5 h4 44.e4 Bc4 45.Nd7+ Kg8 46.Nb6 Bb3+ 47.Kc1 Re8 
48.Nd7 Bc4 49.d3 Bb5 50.Bh2 Rh5 51.Rxa7 Bxd3 52.Nc5 Bb5 53.e5 Rf5 54.Ne4 
g5 55.Nd6 Rf1+ 56.Kc2 Rf2+ 57.Kc3 Rf3+ 58.Kc2 Rf8 59.e6 Bd3+ 60.Kd2 fxe6 
61.Rg7+ Kh8 62.Be5 Bf5 63.f7 Rd3+ 64.Kc1 Rxd6 65.Rg8+ Kh7 66.Rxf8 Kg6 67.
Bxd6 Kg7 68.Rg8+ Kxf7 69.Rxg5 Kf6 70.Rh5 h3 71.Bh2 Kf7 72.Kd2 Kg6 73.Rh8 
e5 74.Ke3 Kg5 75.Bxe5 Kg6 76.Rd8 1-0

[Event "Engine Games"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Queen 2.45"]
[Black "Sunsetter C10"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.Qa4 Qd5 6.Nf3 Qb5 7.Nc3 Qxa4 8.
Nxa4 Bxg4 9.Ne5 Bh3 10.Nxc4 e6 11.Rg1 Rd8 12.d3 Nf6 13.Bd2 Rg8 14.Rg3 Bf5 
15.e4 Bg6 16.Rc1 c5 17.Nc3 Nh5 18.Rh3 Bd6 19.Be3 Bf4 20.Rd1 Bxe3 21.fxe3 
Rb8 22.Na4 Rb5 23.Rc1 Nf6 24.Na3 Rb4 25.b3 Nd7 26.Nxc5 c6 27.Nxd7 Kxd7 28.
Nc4 Rb5 29.Rg3 Rh5 30.Rg2 Rb8 31.Ke2 Rbb5 32.Kd2 f6 33.Kc3 e5 34.a4 Rb8 
35.Rcg1 c5 36.a5 Ke6 37.a6 Rb4 38.Na5 Rb5 39.Ra1 Rh3 40.Nc4 Kd7 41.Raa2 
Ke7 42.Raf2 Ke6 43.Kc2 Rh4 44.Rg3 Rh5 45.Kc3 Ke7 46.h3 Ke6 47.Rfg2 Kd7 48.
Rg1 Ke7 49.Rh1 Ke6 50.Rg4 Kd7 51.h4 Ke7 52.Rgg1 Ke6 53.Rg2 Rb8 54.Na5 Rc8 
55.Nb7 Ke7 56.Rg4 Rc6 57.Ra1 Kf8 58.Ra5 Be8 59.Nxc5 Bd7 60.Rg3 Rxh4 61.d4 
Kf7 62.Rb5 Bc8 63.d5 Rc7 64.Rb7 Bxb7 65.axb7 Rxc5+ 66.Kb4 Rxd5 67.b8=Q Rd7
68.Qb5 Re7 69.Qd5+ Kf8 70.Qd8+ Re8 71.Qd6+ Kf7 72.Qd7+ Re7 73.Rxg7+ Kxg7 
74.Qxe7+ Kg6 75.Qe8+ Kg5 76.Qg8+ Kh6 77.Qf7 Rxe4+ 78.Ka3 Rxe3 79.Qxf6+ Kh5
80.Qf2 Rc3 81.Qf5+ Kh4 82.Qxe5 Rf3 83.Qe7+ Kg4 84.Qg7+ Kf4 85.Qxh7 Ke3 86.
Qxa7+ Kf4 87.Qd4+ Kg3 88.Kb2 Rf4 89.Kc3 Rxd4 90.Kxd4 Kf4 91.b4 Kf5 92.Kd5 
Kf6 93.Kd6 Kg5 94.b5 Kf4 95.b6 Ke3 96.b7 Kd4 97.b8=Q Ke4 98.Qb3 Kd4 99.Qf3
Kc4 100.Qe3 Kb4 101.Qd3 Ka5 102.Qb3 Ka6 103.Kc6 Ka5 104.Qa3# 1-0

[Event "Engine Games 001 Min + X Sec"]
[Site "Internet INT"]
[Date "2004.12.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Frenzee 159"]
[Black "Hiarcs 9"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A00n"]
[Variation "Grob"]

1.g4 Nc6 2.Bg2 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc6+ bxc6 5.Qa4 Qd5 6.f3 e5 7.Nc3 Qe6 8.Nh3
Be7 9.f4 h5 10.f5 Qd6 11.Nf2 Bh4 12.O-O hxg4 13.Nxg4 Ne7 14.e4 g6 15.Qxc4 
gxf5 16.exf5 Bxf5 17.h3 O-O-O 18.Ne4 Qd5 19.Qxd5 cxd5 20.Nef2 Rdg8 21.Re1 
Nc6 22.Kf1 Bxf2 23.Nxf2 Nd4 24.d3 Bxh3+ 25.Nxh3 Rxh3 26.Be3 Nc2 27.Bxa7 
Nxa1 28.Rxe5 Rh1+ 29.Ke2 Rb1 30.Kf3 Rxb2 31.a4 c6 32.Bd4 Ra2 33.Re7 Rxa4 
34.Bb6 Rb4 35.Bf2 Rb7 36.Re2 Nb3 37.Rc2 Kd7 38.Be3 Rb4 39.Ra2 Nd4+ 40.Kf2 
c5 41.Bf4 Rb3 42.Ra7+ Ke6 43.Ra6+ Kf5 44.Be3 Rb2+ 45.Kf1 Nf3 46.Rb6 Rxb6 
47.Bxc5 Rb2 48.Bf2 Nh2+ 49.Ke1 Ra8 50.Ba7 Rxa7 51.Kd1 Ra1# 0-1

Guenther
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Re: the worlds ugliest novelty

Post by Guenther »

Tord Romstad wrote:
ozziejoe wrote:against the grob, rybka 3.0 prefers a novelty, which can lead to a truely grotesque looking position for black. check it out

1. g4, d5; 2 bg2, nc6 !? (novelty)...

If white playes c4 (quite normal in the grob), and black plays best moves, black can end up witht this position (3 c4, dxc4, 4; g2xc6, bxc6.).

rybka thinks black is doing really well (evaluation < -.50))

...


do you agree?
I think black has a big advantage, and that 4. Bxc6 is a serious mistake. Black has an extra pawn and the bishop pair, and is ahead in development. White was a very weak kingside, no safe place for the king, and difficulties developing the queenside
...

Tord
I agree that Bxc6? is a weak move and by no means in the spirit of
this opening.

Guenther
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Re: the worlds ugliest novelty

Post by Nimzovik »

Doubled pawns (in this case tripled pawns) is better that no pawn(s ) :wink: but we speak in generalities.. Concrete analysis is required to speak in an educated manner........
Marc MP

Re: the worlds ugliest novelty

Post by Marc MP »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:It's not only ugly,it's also dangeours with these three pawns on the C file,I personaly prefer white's position....
How can you second-guess computer advices Dr. Deeb? Aren't you usually saying that comps are so much better than humans? Then suddently, when your opinion is in doubt, you advocate the opposite?
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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: the worlds ugliest novelty

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Marc MP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:It's not only ugly,it's also dangeours with these three pawns on the C file,I personaly prefer white's position....
How can you second-guess computer advices Dr. Deeb? Aren't you usually saying that comps are so much better than humans? Then suddently, when your opinion is in doubt, you advocate the opposite?
I didn't use computer assistance to analyse the position and I do insist that the tripeled pawns are bad for black....
Is there something wrong to second -guess the computers,I mean they are not Gods after all....
My point is that the position is not totaly lost for white as mentioned above,but white must play very pricisely to obtain a draw let alone a win....
I can beat the computers in regular terms regards,
Dr.D
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Re: the worlds ugliest novelty

Post by Uri Blass »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Marc MP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:It's not only ugly,it's also dangeours with these three pawns on the C file,I personaly prefer white's position....
How can you second-guess computer advices Dr. Deeb? Aren't you usually saying that comps are so much better than humans? Then suddently, when your opinion is in doubt, you advocate the opposite?
I didn't use computer assistance to analyse the position and I do insist that the tripeled pawns are bad for black....
Is there something wrong to second -guess the computers,I mean they are not Gods after all....
My point is that the position is not totaly lost for white as mentioned above,but white must play very pricisely to obtain a draw let alone a win....
I can beat the computers in regular terms regards,
Dr.D
computers are not gods but it does not mean that they are not smarter than you and me most of the time.

If you think that their evaluation is wrong then the right way to convince
other people is to show a game that demonstrate how to win against them including winning against rybka.

Uri
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Uri Blass wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Marc MP wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:It's not only ugly,it's also dangeours with these three pawns on the C file,I personaly prefer white's position....
How can you second-guess computer advices Dr. Deeb? Aren't you usually saying that comps are so much better than humans? Then suddently, when your opinion is in doubt, you advocate the opposite?
I didn't use computer assistance to analyse the position and I do insist that the tripeled pawns are bad for black....
Is there something wrong to second -guess the computers,I mean they are not Gods after all....
My point is that the position is not totaly lost for white as mentioned above,but white must play very pricisely to obtain a draw let alone a win....
I can beat the computers in regular terms regards,
Dr.D
computers are not gods but it does not mean that they are not smarter than you and me most of the time.

If you think that their evaluation is wrong then the right way to convince
other people is to show a game that demonstrate how to win against them including winning against rybka.

Uri
Agreed,but I have a lot of wins against 2400+ engines on a decent hardware at long time controls....I didn't rise yet to To Rybka's level and most probably I won't....
It's a well known fact that I believe that the computers had dominated the chess scene and the human don't stand a chance against them....
For the particular position,it will be extremly hard to obtain even a win against a top rated chess engine,the Bxc6 is a big positional mistake....
Never the less,against a -2000 engine I think that I can hold white's position but i will probably not because when I have time I like to play my own opening lines and get good results....
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Thanks Ted,a beautiful illustration :D
Where did you get that stuff from,ChessBase 10 I assume :!: :?:
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Thanks Ted,a beautiful illustration :D
Where did you get that stuff from,ChessBase 10 I assume :!: :?:
Yes Sir! :wink:
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