Booot 5.2.0 running for the IPON

[IWB]

here: http://www.inwoba.de you find the tourney.

If Booot comes out with more than 2706 Elo it will push good old Zappa out of the Top 20. That is especially remarkable as Boot is written "just" in Pascal and for sure has a performance handicap compared to the other C/C++ engines there!

Have fun
Ingo

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

here: http://www.inwoba.de you find the tourney.

If Booot comes out with more than 2706 Elo it will push good old Zappa out of the Top 20. That is especially remarkable as Boot is written "just" in Pascal and for sure has a performance handicap compared to the other C/C++ engines there!

Have fun
Ingo

It might succeed I think....

A remarkable chess engine that is a little bit underestimated....

I'll wait for your results Ingo and might give it a wild card for my private rating list......
Dr.D

[jd1]

here: http://www.inwoba.de you find the tourney.

If Booot comes out with more than 2706 Elo it will push good old Zappa out of the Top 20. That is especially remarkable as Boot is written "just" in Pascal and for sure has a performance handicap compared to the other C/C++ engines there!

Have fun
Ingo

It might succeed I think....

A remarkable chess engine that is a little bit underestimated....

I'll wait for your results Ingo and might give it a wild card for my private rating list......
Dr.D

Doing very well (2760 elo) after 388 games , though still early days ...

That would place it as No. 17 - very impressive!

Jerry

[lucasart]

Boot is written "just" in Pascal and for sure has a performance handicap compared to the other C/C++ engines there!

Actually, there's no reason why Pascal is slower than C. It depends how you use it, and what kind of code you write. But best/fast code in Pascal should be as fast as best/fast code in C. That's assuming Pascal compilers are as good as C compilers, which is perhaps a bad assumptions these days (Pascal is going out of fashion to say the least). The real reason to choose C over Pascal is that doing all the low level stuff that you need to do is much nicer/less verbose written in C (I hated manipulating pointer and doing bit fidling in Pascal, but it's possible). If there is a performance penalty it's surely small, and the translation of raw speed into elo is logarithmic, as we all know...

So Pascal engines can still shine. It's just a penance to write code in such a verbose language.

[IWB]

... That's assuming Pascal compilers are as good as C compilers,...

Thats the point. To my best knowledge even in the 80th the good old Turbo C compiler was always faster than the Turbo Pascal compiler from Borland (talking about the result of the compilation of course)
So, yes, it is not the language but the worse compilers.

Bye
Ingo

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

here: http://www.inwoba.de you find the tourney.

If Booot comes out with more than 2706 Elo it will push good old Zappa out of the Top 20. That is especially remarkable as Boot is written "just" in Pascal and for sure has a performance handicap compared to the other C/C++ engines there!

Have fun
Ingo

It might succeed I think....

A remarkable chess engine that is a little bit underestimated....

I'll wait for your results Ingo and might give it a wild card for my private rating list......
Dr.D

Doing very well (2760 elo) after 388 games , though still early days ...

That would place it as No. 17 - very impressive!

Jerry

Thanks for the feedback

Impressive indeed....
Dr.D

[Modern Times]

here: http://www.inwoba.de you find the tourney.

If Booot comes out with more than 2706 Elo it will push good old Zappa out of the Top 20.

Ingo

Poor Zappa.... but actually it is amazing it has stayed there so long. It is very old now.

Did Martin run Zappa on 16 cores for nTCEC ?

[Martin Thoresen]

Did Martin run Zappa on 16 cores for nTCEC ?

Not officially, but I've tested it and it usually crashes with 16 cores. With 8 it works fine though.

[Modern Times]

Did Martin run Zappa on 16 cores for nTCEC ?

Not officially, but I've tested it and it usually crashes with 16 cores. With 8 it works fine though.

Pity. Was that the last release, Zappa Mexico II ?

The older freeware one used to crash on just 4 cores sometimes.

[Mike S.]

I would not object if you would put Zappa Mexico II into nTCEC Season 2, as a "representative of the old performers", like Naum. Just in case that you don't find enough new interesting engines. But Booot is certainly a candidate. The intermediate IPON result after 1134 games is at Deep Junior 13.3 level.