TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 CEST

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kranium
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by kranium »

RJN wrote:Thanks Ray. While I would prefer to see start positions repeated, as with normal chess openings for "fairness', no big deal. I just assumed it would be the same.

(and you know what they say about assumptions!!!)
There are no opening moves, thus reversed (opening/start) positions are not needed, IMO.

The 960 start positions are perfectly white/black symmetrical, with the only advantage being whatever the 1st move (white) is worth,
unless, of course it can shown empirically that one or another position (out of the 960) heavily favors white (or black),
but that result seems illogical and highly unlikely.

The engines play the entire game, each from the exact same position (not from an inferior human opening book construct)
...FRC actually looks to be the most perfect 'test' mechanism available
(even if you don't repeat and reverse openings, results should be pretty accurate)

I have not done this but...try any FRC position with top engines...
theoretically, the start positions should give only a very small advantage to white.
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by Modern Times »

Don't know about anyone else, but the chat hasn't worked for at least the last couple of hours, all I get in it's place is a message

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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

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Modern Times wrote:Don't know about anyone else, but the chat hasn't worked for at least the last couple of hours, all I get in it's place is a message

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It's Chatwing...
they had issues during Season 6 as well
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by Martin Thoresen »

Yup it's been down for several hours now, it's true that they had issues during Season 6 as well but not like this... hopefully they'll be up again soon.
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by Modern Times »

OK - yes it is fine this morning.
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by Martin Thoresen »

Standings after 4 rounds:

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N Engine           Rtng Pts Gm   SB St Ho Cr Fi Sp Ry Sh To

 1 Stockfish 260614 3168 4.0  4 5.00 ··       1  1     1  1 
 2 Houdini 4        3145 3.5  4 3.25    ·· =        1  1  1 
 3 Critter 1.6a     3030 2.5  4 3.00    =  ··    =  =     1 
 4 Fire 3.1         3067 2.5  4 2.00 0        ·· 1  =     1 
 5 Spike 1.4        2876 1.5  4 2.25 0     =  0  ··    1    
 6 Rybka 4.1        3072 1.0  4 2.50    0  =  =     ·· 0    
 7 Shredder 12      2889 1.0  4 1.00 0  0        0  1  ··   
 8 Tornado 5        2778 0.0  4 0.00 0  0  0  0           ··
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by IanO »

Standings after the first seven rounds, Stockfish undefeated.

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 N Engine           Rtng Pts Gm    SB St Ho Cr Fi Sh Ry Sp To

 1 Stockfish 260614 3168 7.0  7 22.00 ·· 1  1  1  1  1  1  1 
 2 Houdini 4        3145 5.5  7 14.75 0  ·· =  1  1  1  1  1 
 3 Critter 1.6a     3030 3.5  7  9.25 0  =  ·· =  =  =  =  1 
 4 Fire 3.1         3067 3.5  7  7.25 0  0  =  ·· =  =  1  1 
 5 Shredder 12      2889 3.0  7  7.00 0  0  =  =  ·· 1  0  1 
 6 Rybka 4.1        3072 3.0  7  6.50 0  0  =  =  0  ·· 1  1 
 7 Spike 1.4        2876 2.5  7  4.75 0  0  =  0  1  0  ·· 1 
 8 Tornado 5        2778 0.0  7  0.00 0  0  0  0  0  0  0  ··
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

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N Engine           Rtng Pts  Gm    SB St Ho Fi Cr Ry Sp Sh To

 1 Stockfish 260614 3168 9.0  10 37.75 ·· 1  1= 1  1  1  11 1=
 2 Houdini 4        3145 8.0  10 27.50 0  ·· 1  == 11 1  1  11
 3 Fire 3.1         3067 6.0  10 19.75 0= 0  ·· =  =  11 =  11
 4 Critter 1.6a     3030 5.0  10 21.25 0  == =  ·· == == =  1 
 5 Rybka 4.1        3072 4.0  10 14.25 0  00 =  == ·· 1  0= 1 
 6 Spike 1.4        2876 4.0  10 12.50 0  0  00 == 0  ·· 11 1 
 7 Shredder 12      2889 3.5  10 12.00 00 0  =  =  1= 00 ·· 1 
 8 Tornado 5        2778 0.5  10  4.50 0= 00 00 0  0  0  0  ··
Two drawn games now for Stockfish.
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

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 N Engine           Rtng  Pts  Gm    SB St Ho Cr Fi Ry Sp Sh To

 1 Stockfish 260614 3168 11.0  12 53.75 ·· 1  1  1= 11 11 11 1=
 2 Houdini 4        3145  9.5  12 41.25 0  ·· == 1= 11 1  11 11
 3 Critter 1.6a     3030  6.5  12 30.00 0  == ·· =  == == =1 1=
 4 Fire 3.1         3067  6.5  12 29.75 0= 0= =  ·· =0 11 =  11
 5 Rybka 4.1        3072  5.0  12 24.00 00 00 == =1 ·· 1  0= 1 
 6 Spike 1.4        2876  4.0  12 15.50 00 0  == 00 0  ·· 11 10
 7 Shredder 12      2889  3.5  12 16.00 00 00 =0 =  1= 00 ·· 1 
 8 Tornado 5        2778  2.0  12 12.75 0= 00 0= 00 0  01 0  ··
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Re: TCEC Season 6 - FRC event starts 28th of June at 16:00 C

Post by IanO »

Fourteen rounds.

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 N Engine           Rtng  Pts  Gm    SB St Ho Fi Cr Ry Sh Sp To

 1 Stockfish 260614 3168 12.5  14 78.25 ·· 11 1= 1= 11 11 11 1=
 2 Houdini 4        3145 10.5  14 54.50 00 ·· 1= == 11 11 11 11
 3 Fire 3.1         3067  8.0  14 41.25 0= 0= ·· == =0 =1 11 11
 4 Critter 1.6a     3030  7.5  14 45.50 0= == == ·· == =1 == 1=
 5 Rybka 4.1        3072  7.0  14 33.75 00 00 =1 == ·· 0= 11 11
 6 Shredder 12      2889  4.5  14 22.25 00 00 =0 =0 1= ·· 00 11
 7 Spike 1.4        2876  4.0  14 18.50 00 00 00 == 00 11 ·· 10
 8 Tornado 5        2778  2.0  14 14.00 0= 00 00 0= 00 00 01 ··