Kaufman on Rybka and Fischer

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Alexander Schmidt
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Re: Kaufman on Rybka and Fischer

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hgm wrote:
Alexander Schmidt wrote:OK, now you say customers are stupid. Some posts before you said customers are not stupid. Whatever...
Where did I say that?
Here you say that it is a silly thought that customers understand it in a wrong way
hgm wrote:defending that silly thought by claiming most people would misunderstand that in the same way.
And here you say that customers are stupid because they understand it in a wrong way
hgm wrote:
Alexander Schmidt wrote:most customers will conclude that an engine with "second-hand Chess knowledge from Fischer in the evaluation" will play like Fischer or at least "human".
So most customers are stupid
hgm wrote:Do you never get tired smearing egg on your face? Why do you keep coming back for more?
Diskussions with you lead always to the same point. Do you never get tired to evidence that you know more respectless and abusive phrases in english? I am out of here. Once more...
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Re: Kaufman on Rybka and Fischer

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:Here you say that it is a silly thought that customers understand it in a wrong way
hgm wrote:defending that silly thought by claiming most people would misunderstand that in the same way.
Well, if you don't understand plain English, this will be tedious...

It says of course no such thing. What it does say is that:

1) It is a silly thought that putting knowledge from person X in the evaluation of a Chess engine would make the engine play like X.

2) It is nonsense that you should be excused for thinking a silly thing just because others do. Wrong is wrong, no matter how many people make the same mistake.
Alexander Schmidt wrote:Diskussions with you lead always to the same point. Do you never get tired to evidence that you know more respectless and abusive phrases in english? I am out of here. Once more...
Respect has to be earned. And so far you have been wrong about everything you wrote, in ways that do make you look pretty foolish by objective standards. "Having egg on your face" is just a normal English expression for that.

If you don't like someone pointing it out, the best remedy is not to do it...
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Re: Kaufman on Rybka and Fischer

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mclane wrote:
Darkmoon wrote:At the very least this proves that one doesn't have to go to Rybka forum for entertainment! :lol:
Imo the trolls of the rybka forum should better stay there.
No! Thorsten, I'm not a troll. But if you're trying to imply that this exhibition of dysfunction is a family affair- :roll: Than it is worse than I thought. :wink:
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Re: Kaufman on Rybka and Fischer

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L.K. Fischer was my biggest influence in my teens, although the book that influenced me the most was Reshevsky’s (“How chess games are won”). On a personal level I would say Steve Brandwein.


L.K. I’m one of the relatively few players 60 and older who has embraced the new technology. I am co-developer of “Rybka”, the world’s strongest chess program on all rating lists, and teaching Rybka has apparently improved my own game, as my rating is now at a five year peak despite my age and rating deflation. Although my calculation ability has surely declined with age, my understanding of chess in general and openings in particular is much improved due to the engines and databases. Imagine forty years ago if a player could have had Bobby Fischer available 24/7 to answer any chess question to the best of his ability. Having Rybka at my disposal is even better than that would have been.


http://www.uschesstrust.org/an-exclusiv ... -jim-eade/