Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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Milos
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:36 am
Milos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:26 am
Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:39 am lol...time to resign...Peter plays g4 now and u gonna start to understand sth maybe ;-)
Sorry, but it's obvious to me that you are the one that doesn't understand a thing.
Peter OTOH does, and it's getting more difficult to avoid traps I must admit.
One more move, before I go to sleep again, Milos?
Nevermind if you'd rather think about some longer, just to know, if it would be worth waiting regards
I need to give it a thought a bit longer. Avoiding a4 seems very hard now with Bh2 being prevented by removing that g2 shelter pawn. After that white can almost enforce a win, still checking all the lines for some miraculous escape is worth extra time.
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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Milos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:44 am I need to give it a thought a bit longer. Avoiding a4 seems very hard now with Bh2 being prevented by removing that g2 shelter pawn. After that white can almost enforce a win, still checking all the lines for some miraculous escape is worth extra time.
Thanks for letting me know, so good night
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:08 am
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:55 am
Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:39 am lol...time to resign...Peter plays g4 now and u gonna start to understand sth maybe ;-)
If 59.g4 that peter did not play 59...Bg3 is the only move and crystal believes there are 5 different winning moves
60.Qa4 60.Qc2 60.Qd1 60.Na4 60.Ke2
You're right together with Peer, that 59.g4 at once would have been winning too, yet if it's denied now by Bishop's return 59...Bg3, there's 60.b6 fine for White,I like that even more, and it can be stopped by Black now only by return of Queen 59...Qb6, in that case 60.g4 is as strong as before, I think even stronger.
Let's see, what Milos chooses.
Allowing white to push b6 is instant game over, I thought that's obvious from the very start.
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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Milos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:50 am
peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:08 am
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:55 am
Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:39 am lol...time to resign...Peter plays g4 now and u gonna start to understand sth maybe ;-)
If 59.g4 that peter did not play 59...Bg3 is the only move and crystal believes there are 5 different winning moves
60.Qa4 60.Qc2 60.Qd1 60.Na4 60.Ke2
You're right together with Peer, that 59.g4 at once would have been winning too, yet if it's denied now by Bishop's return 59...Bg3, there's 60.b6 fine for White,I like that even more, and it can be stopped by Black now only by return of Queen 59...Qb6, in that case 60.g4 is as strong as before, I think even stronger.
Let's see, what Milos chooses.
Allowing white to push b6 is instant game over, I thought that's obvious from the very start.
But you can deny it now only with 59...Qb6, am I wrong about that?
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:54 am
Milos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:50 am
peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:08 am
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:55 am
Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:39 am lol...time to resign...Peter plays g4 now and u gonna start to understand sth maybe ;-)
If 59.g4 that peter did not play 59...Bg3 is the only move and crystal believes there are 5 different winning moves
60.Qa4 60.Qc2 60.Qd1 60.Na4 60.Ke2
You're right together with Peer, that 59.g4 at once would have been winning too, yet if it's denied now by Bishop's return 59...Bg3, there's 60.b6 fine for White,I like that even more, and it can be stopped by Black now only by return of Queen 59...Qb6, in that case 60.g4 is as strong as before, I think even stronger.
Let's see, what Milos chooses.
Allowing white to push b6 is instant game over, I thought that's obvious from the very start.
But you can deny it now only with 59...Qb6, am I wrong about that?
Yes Qb6 is always there, problem is with extra tempo prevented by cutting out Bh2 option a4 eventually gets pushed since just moving king (and queen) can not prevent it. Once a4 is pushed it's just a matter of time, since black can't defend both a5 and e5 pawns with the king as fast as white knight can move.
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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Milos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:00 am Yes Qb6 is always there, problem is with extra tempo prevented by cutting out Bh2 option a4 eventually gets pushed since just moving king (and queen) can not prevent it. Once a4 is pushed it's just a matter of time.
59...Qb6 is the only move to stop 60.b6 now.
After 59...Qb6 I can already give 60.g4 as premove, so let me know the other day, which way you go regards
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

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Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:35 am this is what regular SF-dev from 22.01.2022 thought about 59.g4 after a little bit of forward/backward-analysis:

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FEN: 8/qkp5/3p4/pPpPp1p1/2P1PpPp/PQ3P1P/1N5b/5K2 b - g3 0 59

Stockfish_22012210_x64_avx2:
NNUE evaluation using nn-ac07bd334b62.nnue enabled
 1/1	00:00	 368	368k	+9,32	59.g2-g4
 2/2	00:00	 865	865k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep
 3/3	00:00	 1k	1.163k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2
 4/4	00:00	 2k	2.002k	+7,53	59.g2-g4 Kb7-b8 60.Db3-c2 Da7-b7
 5/6	00:00	 4k	1.921k	+4,94	59.Sb2-a4 Da7-a8 60.b5-b6 Da8-a6 61.b6xc7+ Kb7xc7
 6/6	00:00	 6k	3.078k	+4,65	59.Sb2-a4 Da7-b8 60.b5-b6 c7xb6 61.Db3xb6+ Kb7-c8 62.Db6xb8+ Kc8xb8 63.Sa4-c3 Lh2-g3
 7/7	00:00	 8k	4.168k	+4,62	59.Sb2-a4 Da7-a8 60.b5-b6 Da8-a6 61.b6xc7+ Kb7xc7 62.Sa4-c3
 8/9	00:00	 15k	4.905k	+4,83	59.Sb2-a4 Da7-b8 60.b5-b6 c7xb6 61.Db3-b5 Db8-c7 62.Sa4-c3 g5-g4 63.h3xg4
 9/9	00:00	 25k	6.340k	+4,73	59.Sb2-a4 Da7-b8 60.b5-b6 c7xb6 61.Db3-b5 g5-g4 62.Db5xb6+ Kb7-c8
 10/12	00:00	 59k	8.468k	+5,10	59.Sb2-a4 Kb7-a8 60.b5-b6 c7xb6 61.Db3-b5 Da7-c7 62.Db5-a6+ Ka8-b8 63.Sa4xb6
 11/11	00:00	 68k	9.663k	+6,71	59.Sb2-a4 Da7-b8 60.b5-b6 c7xb6 61.Db3-b5 g5-g4 62.h3xg4 Db8-c7
 12/16	00:00	 415k	10.639k	+8,26	59.g2-g4 Kb7-c8 60.a3-a4 Kc8-d7 61.Db3-c3 Kd7-e7 62.Sb2-d3 Lh2-g3 63.Sd3-c1 Ke7-f7 64.Sc1-b3
 13/21	00:00	 509k	10.824k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4
 14/21	00:00	 527k	10.970k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4 66.b5-b6 c7xb6 67.Sf5xd6 Ka4xa3 68.Sd6-f7 Ka3-b4 69.d5-d6
 15/23	00:00	 549k	11.200k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4 66.b5-b6 c7xb6 67.Sf5xd6 Ka4xa3 68.Sd6-f7 Ka3-b4 69.d5-d6 Kb4xc4 70.d6-d7
 16/23	00:00	 593k	11.398k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4 66.b5-b6 c7xb6 67.Sf5xd6 Ka4xa3 68.Sd6-f7 Ka3-b4 69.d5-d6 Kb4xc4 70.d6-d7
 17/29	00:00	 743k	11.796k	+10,05	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-b6 66.Sf5-g7 g5-g4 67.h3xg4 Lh2-g1 68.Sg7-f5 Lg1-d4 69.g4-g5 h4-h3+ 70.Kg2xg3 h3-h2 71.Kg3xh2
 18/36	00:00	 1.107k	13.175k	+10,17	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4 66.b5-b6 c7xb6 67.Sf5xd6 Ka4xa3 68.Sd6-f7 Lh2-g1 69.Kg2xg1 Ka3-b3 70.d5-d6 Kb3xc4 71.d6-d7 Kc4-c3 72.d7-d8D c5-c4 73.Dd8xg5 Kc3-d4 74.Dg5xh4 b6-b5 75.Dh4xg3 Kd4-c3 76.Sf7xe5 b5-b4
 19/38	00:00	 1.317k	13.580k	+10,23	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4 66.b5-b6 c7xb6 67.Sf5xd6 Ka4xa3 68.Sd6-f7 Lh2-g1 69.Kg2xg1 Ka3-b3 70.d5-d6 Kb3xc4 71.d6-d7 b6-b5 72.d7-d8D Kc4-b4 73.Sf7xe5 c5-c4 74.Kg1-g2 c4-c3 75.Dd8xg5 Kb4-b3 76.Dg5xh4
 20/33	00:00	 1.355k	13.687k	+10,02	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 a5-a4 61.Db3xa4 Kb7-b6 62.Da4xa7+ Kb6xa7 63.Sb2-d1 Ka7-b6 64.Sd1-e3 Kb6-a5 65.Se3-f5 Ka5-a4 66.b5-b6 c7xb6 67.Sf5xd6 Ka4xa3 68.Sd6-f7 Lh2-g1 69.Kg2xg1 Ka3-b3 70.d5-d6 Kb3xc4 71.Sf7xe5+ Kc4-d4 72.Se5-g4 c5-c4 73.d6-d7 Kd4-c5 74.d7-d8D Kc5-c6 75.Dd8xg5
 21/37	00:00	 11.957k	18.171k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 g5-g4 69.f3xg4 Df8-h6 70.g4-g5 Dh6-g6 71.Dd7-g4 Kb8-c7 72.Dg4xh4 Kc7-b6 73.Dh4-g4 Kb6-a5 74.h3-h4 Ka5-a4 75.h4-h5 Dg6-g7 76.g5-g6
 22/35	00:00	 12.044k	18.166k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 g5-g4 69.f3xg4 Df8-h6 70.g4-g5 Dh6-g6 71.Dd7-g4 Kb8-c7 72.Dg4xh4 Kc7-b6 73.Dh4-g4 Kb6-a5 74.h3-h4 Ka5-a4 75.h4-h5 Dg6-g7 76.g5-g6
 23/37	00:00	 12.160k	18.149k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 g5-g4 69.f3xg4 Df8-h6 70.g4-g5 Dh6-g6 71.Dd7-g4 Kb8-c7 72.Dg4xh4 Kc7-b6 73.Dh4-g4 Kb6-a5 74.h3-h4 Ka5-a4 75.h4-h5 Dg6-g7 76.g5-g6 Ka4-b3 77.Dg4-e2
 24/43	00:00	 12.274k	18.103k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 g5-g4 69.f3xg4 Df8-h6 70.g4-g5 Dh6-g6 71.Dd7-g4 Kb8-c7 72.Dg4xh4 Kc7-b6 73.Dh4-g4 Kb6-a5 74.h3-h4 Ka5-a4 75.h4-h5 Dg6-g7 76.g5-g6 Ka4-b3 77.Dg4-e2 Kb3xc4 78.Sd3-f4+ Kc4-b3 79.De2-d3+ Kb3-a2 80.Dd3-c2+ Ka2xa3
 25/47	00:00	 12.348k	18.079k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 g5-g4 69.f3xg4 Df8-h6 70.g4-g5 Dh6-g6 71.Dd7-g4 Kb8-c7 72.Dg4xh4 Kc7-b6 73.Dh4-g4 Kb6-a5 74.h3-h4 Ka5-a4 75.h4-h5 Dg6-g7 76.g5-g6 Ka4-b3 77.Dg4-e2 Kb3xc4 78.Sd3-f4+ Kc4-c3 79.De2-d3+ Kc3-b2 80.Sf4-e6 Dg7-f6 81.Dd3-d2+ Kb2-b3 82.g6-g7
 26/49	00:00	 12.701k	17.990k	+10,29	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 g5-g4 69.f3xg4 Df8-h6 70.g4-g5 Dh6-g6 71.Dd7-g4 Kb8-c7 72.Dg4xh4 Dg6-e8 73.Dh4-h7+ Kc7-d8 74.Dh7-h6 Kd8-c7 75.Dh6-g7+ Kc7-b8 76.Dg7-f6 De8-h5 77.Df6xd6+ Kb8-a8 78.Dd6-d8+ Ka8-a7 79.Dd8-d7+ Ka7-b8 80.Dd7-g4 Dh5xg4 81.h3xg4
 27/53	00:00	 16.525k	17.693k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Db6xa5+ Ka8-b7 66.Da5-b5+ Kb7-a7 67.Db5-d7+ Ka7-b8 68.Sb2-d3 Df8-h6 69.Dd7-e8+ Kb8-a7 70.De8-e6 Dh6-f8 71.De6-d7+ Ka7-b8 72.Dd7-b5+ Kb8-a7 73.Db5-a4+ Ka7-b7 74.Da4-c6+ Kb7-a7 75.Dc6-c7+ Ka7-a8 76.Dc7-b6 Df8-b8 77.Db6-a6+ Db8-a7 78.Da6-c8+ Da7-b8 79.Dc8xb8+ Ka8xb8
 28/47	00:01	 19.111k	17.517k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-c7 67.Db6xc7+ Kc8xc7 68.Sd3-c1 Kc7-b6 69.Sc1-a2 Kb6-b7 70.Sa2-c3 Kb7-c7 71.Sc3-b5+ Kc7-d7 72.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 73.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 74.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 75.Sd8-e6+ Kc7-d7 76.Se6xg5 Kd7-e7 77.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 78.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 79.Sd8-b7 Ke7-d7 80.Sb7xa5 Kd7-c7 81.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 82.Sc6-d8
 29/53	00:01	 24.281k	17.331k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-c7 67.Db6xc7+ Kc8xc7 68.Sd3-c1 Kc7-b6 69.Sc1-a2 Kb6-b7 70.Sa2-c3 Kb7-c7 71.Sc3-b5+ Kc7-d7 72.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 73.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 74.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 75.Sd8-f7 Kc7-d7 76.Sf7xg5 Kd7-e7 77.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 78.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 79.Sd8-b7 Ke7-d7 80.Sb7xa5 Kd7-c7 81.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 82.Sc6-d8 Kb6-a5 83.Sd8-b7+ Ka5xa4 84.Sb7xd6 Ka4-b3 85.Sd6-f7
 30/59	00:01	 25.272k	17.250k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-c7 67.Db6xc7+ Kc8xc7 68.Sd3-b2 Kc7-d8 69.Sb2-d1 Kd8-e7 70.Sd1-c3 Ke7-e8 71.Sc3-b5 Ke8-d7 72.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 73.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 74.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 75.Sd8-f7 Kc7-d7 76.Sf7xg5 Kd7-e7 77.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 78.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 79.Sd8-c6+ Ke7-d7 80.Sc6xa5 Kd7-c7 81.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 82.Sc6-e7 Kb6-a5 83.Se7-f5 Ka5xa4 84.Sf5xd6
 31/41	00:02	 36.328k	16.968k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Kb7-b8 61.Sb2-a4 Da7-a8 62.b5-b6 Da8-a6 63.Sa4-c3 Da6xb6 64.Db3xb6+ c7xb6 65.Sc3-b5 Kb8-a8 66.Sb5xd6 a5-a4 67.Sd6-b5 Ka8-b8 68.Sb5-c3 Kb8-c7 69.Sc3xa4 Kc7-d7 70.Sa4-c3 Kd7-e8 71.Sc3-b5 Ke8-d8 72.Sb5-a7 Kd8-e7 73.a3-a4 Ke7-d7 74.Sa7-c6 Kd7-d6 75.a4-a5 b6xa5 76.Sc6xa5 Kd6-e7 77.Sa5-b7 Ke7-d7 78.Sb7xc5+ Kd7-d6 79.Sc5-d3
 32/48	00:02	 37.914k	16.956k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-c7 67.Db6xc7+ Kc8xc7 68.Sd3-c1 Kc7-b6 69.Sc1-a2 Kb6-b7 70.Sa2-c3 Kb7-c7 71.Sc3-b5+ Kc7-d7 72.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 73.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 74.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 75.Sd8-e6+ Kc7-d7 76.Se6xg5 Kd7-e7 77.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 78.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 79.Sd8-c6+ Ke7-d7 80.Sc6xa5 Kd7-e7 81.Sa5-c6+ Ke7-d7 82.Sc6-a7 Kd7-d8
 33/58	00:03	 54.349k	16.915k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-c7 67.Db6xc7+ Kc8xc7 68.Sd3-c1 Kc7-b7 69.Sc1-a2 Kb7-c8 70.Sa2-c3 Kc8-d8 71.Sc3-b5 Kd8-d7 72.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 73.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 74.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 75.Sd8-f7 Kc7-d7 76.Sf7xg5 Kd7-e7 77.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 78.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 79.Sd8-b7 Ke7-d7 80.Sb7xa5 Kd7-c7 81.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 82.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7
 34/54-	00:03	 57.903k	16.970k	+8,87	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep
 34/62+	00:03	 65.067k	17.051k	+10,29	59.g2-g4
 34/63	00:12	 214.558k	17.455k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-d8 67.Db6-a7 Dd8-c7 68.Da7xc7+ Kc8xc7 69.Sd3-b2 Kc7-c8 70.Sb2-d1 Kc8-d8 71.Sd1-c3 Kd8-e7 72.Sc3-b5 Ke7-d7 73.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 74.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 75.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 76.Sd8-f7 Kc7-d7 77.Sf7xg5 Kd7-e7 78.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 79.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 80.Sd8-c6+ Ke7-d7 81.Sc6xa5 Kd7-c7 82.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 83.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7
 35/60	00:20	 352.058k	17.490k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-d8 67.Db6xd8+ Kc8xd8 68.Sd3-b2 Kd8-e7 69.Sb2-d1 Ke7-f8 70.Sd1-c3 Kf8-e8 71.Sc3-b5 Ke8-d7 72.Sb5-a7 Kd7-c7 73.Sa7-c6 Kc7-b6 74.Sc6-d8 Kb6-c7 75.Sd8-f7 Kc7-d7 76.Sf7xg5 Kd7-e7 77.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 78.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 79.Sd8-b7 Ke7-d7 80.Sb7xa5 Kd7-c7 81.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 82.Sc6-e7 Kb6-a5 83.Se7-c8 Ka5xa4 84.Sc8xd6 Ka4-b3 85.Sd6-f7 Kb3xc4 86.d5-d6 Kc4-b5
 36/63	00:24	 431.339k	17.532k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Sb2-d3 Lh2-g1 66.Db6-a6+ Ka8-b8 67.Kg2xg1 Df8xf3 68.Da6xd6+ Kb8-a8 69.Dd6-d8+ Ka8-a7 70.Dd8-c7+ Ka7-a8 71.Dc7-c8+ Ka8-a7 72.Dc8xc5+ Ka7-b7 73.Dc5-c6+ Kb7-b8 74.Dc6-b6+ Kb8-c8 75.Db6-e6+ Kc8-b8 76.De6xe5+ Kb8-a8 77.De5-e8+ Ka8-a7 78.De8-e7+ Ka7-b8 79.De7-d8+ Kb8-a7 80.Dd8-c7+ Ka7-a8 81.Dc7xa5+ Ka8-b8 82.Da5-d8+ Kb8-a7 83.Dd8-c7+ Ka7-a8 84.Dc7-c8+ Ka8-a7 85.Dc8-c5+ Ka7-b7 86.Dc5-b5+ Kb7-a8
 37/60	00:36	 640.868k	17.674k	+10,33	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-a8 65.Sb2-d3 a5-a4 66.Db6-c6+ Ka8-b8 67.Dc6-d7 Df8-h6 68.Dd7-b5+ Kb8-a7 69.Db5xa4+ Ka7-b8 70.Da4-e8+ Kb8-a7 71.De8-e6 Dh6-f8 72.De6-d7+ Ka7-b8 73.Dd7-b5+ Kb8-c8 74.Db5-c6+ Kc8-b8 75.Dc6-a6 Lh2-g1 76.Kg2xg1 Df8xf3 77.Da6xd6+ Kb8-a8 78.Dd6-d8+ Ka8-a7 79.Dd8-a5+ Ka7-b8 80.Da5-b5+ Kb8-c8 81.Db5-e8+ Kc8-c7 82.De8xe5+ Kc7-d8 83.De5xg5+ Kd8-e8 84.Dg5-g8+ Ke8-e7 85.Dg8-e6+ Ke7-f8 86.De6-f5+ Df3xf5 87.e4xf5
 38/72	00:48	 859.612k	17.547k	+10,30	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-f8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 65.Sb2-d3 Df8-e7 66.a3-a4 De7-d8 67.Db6-a7 Dd8-c7 68.Da7xc7+ Kc8xc7 69.Sd3-b2 Kc7-d8 70.Sb2-d1 Kd8-d7 71.Sd1-e3 Kd7-e7 72.Se3-f5+ Ke7-d7 73.Sf5-g7 Kd7-e7 74.Sg7-e6 Ke7-d7 75.Se6xg5 Kd7-e7 76.Sg5-e6 Ke7-f6 77.Se6-d8 Kf6-e7 78.Sd8-c6+ Ke7-d7 79.Sc6xa5 Kd7-c7 80.Sa5-c6 Kc7-b6 81.Sc6-e7 Kb6-a5 82.Se7-f5 Ka5xa4 83.Sf5xd6 Ka4-b4 84.Sd6-f7 Kb4xc4 85.d5-d6 Kc4-b5 86.d6-d7 Kb5-c6 87.d7-d8D
 39/74	00:57	 1.011.774k	17.515k	+10,38	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-b8+ Ke8-f7 70.Db8-b2 a5-a4 71.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 72.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 73.De3-f3+ Kf7-e8 74.g4-g5 Db6-b1 75.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 76.d5-d6 Da1-d4 77.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 78.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 79.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 80.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 81.g5-g6 Lf4xe3 82.d6-d7+ Ke8xd7 83.g6-g7 Le3-c1 84.g7-g8D e5-e4 85.Dg8-d5+ Kd7-c7 86.Dd5-e5+ Kc7-b6 87.De5-e6+ Kb6-c7 88.De6-e7+ Kc7-b8 89.De7xe4 Lc1xa3 90.De4-e8+ Kb8-c7 91.De8xa4 La3-b4 92.Da4-a7+ Kc7-d6 93.Kg2-f3 Kd6-e5 94.Da7-g7+ Ke5-e6
 40/68	00:58	 1.020.689k	17.506k	+10,10	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-b8+ Ke8-f7 70.Db8-b2 a5-a4 71.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 72.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 73.De3-f3+ Kf7-e7 74.Df3-d3 Db6-h6 75.Dd3-e3 Dh6-b6 76.De3-g5+ Ke7-f7 77.Dg5-f5+ Kf7-g7 78.Df5xe5+ Kg7-h7 79.De5-e7+ Kh7-h8 80.De7xh4+ Kh8-g8 81.Dh4-g5+ Kg8-f8 82.Dg5-f5+ Kf8-g7 83.Df5-e5+ Kg7-h7 84.De5-b2 Db6-h6 85.Db2-b7+ Kh7-h8 86.Db7-c8+ Kh8-g7 87.Dc8-d7+ Kg7-h8 88.Dd7-e8+ Kh8-h7 89.De8-h5 Dh6xh5 90.g4xh5 Lh2-g1 91.Kg2xg1 Kh7-h6
 41/72	01:03	 1.104.715k	17.474k	+10,38	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-b8+ Ke8-f7 70.Db8-b2 a5-a4 71.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 72.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 73.De3-f3+ Kf7-e7 74.Df3-d3 Db6-h6 75.Dd3-e3 Dh6-b6 76.De3-g5+ Ke7-f7 77.Dg5-f5+ Kf7-g7 78.Df5xe5+ Kg7-h7 79.De5-e7+ Kh7-h8 80.De7xh4+ Kh8-g8 81.Dh4-g5+ Kg8-f8 82.Dg5-f5+ Kf8-g7 83.Df5-e5+ Kg7-h7 84.De5-b2 Db6-b3 85.Db2xb3 a4xb3 86.e4-e5 Kh7-g7 87.d5-d6 Kg7-f7 88.a3-a4 Kf7-e8 89.a4-a5 Ke8-d7 90.a5-a6 Kd7-c6 91.a6-a7 b3-b2 92.a7-a8D+ Kc6-d7 93.Sd1xb2
 42/69	01:30	 1.518.561k	16.815k	+9,03	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-b8+ Ke8-f7 70.Db8-b2 Dg5-f4 71.Db2-e2 Df4-c1 72.g4-g5 a5-a4 73.Sd1-e3 Kf7-e8 74.g5-g6 Dc1-g1+ 75.Kg2-f3 Dg1-h1+ 76.Se3-g2 Dh1-c1 77.Kf3-g4 Dc1-h6 78.Sg2xh4 g3-g2 79.De2xg2 Lh2-f4 80.Sh4-f5 Dh6xg6+ 81.Kg4-f3 Dg6-f6 82.Dg2-g8+ Ke8-d7 83.Dg8-h7+ Kd7-e8 84.Dh7-c7 Lf4-g5 85.Dc7xc5 Lg5-c1 86.Dc5-c8+ Ke8-f7
 43/90	01:52	 1.864.779k	16.569k	+10,33	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-b8+ Ke8-f7 70.Db8-b2 Dg5-f4 71.Db2-e2 Df4-c1 72.g4-g5 Dc1xg5 73.Sd1-e3 Kf7-e8 74.Se3-f5 Dg5-c1 75.De2-h5+ Ke8-d8 76.Dh5xh4+ Kd8-c7 77.Dh4-h7+ Kc7-b8 78.Dh7-h8+ Kb8-a7 79.Dh8-g7+ Ka7-a8 80.Dg7-f8+ Ka8-a7 81.Df8xc5+ Ka7-a6 82.Dc5-b5+ Ka6-a7 83.Db5xa5+ Ka7-b8 84.Da5-d8+ Kb8-a7 85.Dd8-c7+ Ka7-a8 86.Dc7-c8+ Ka8-a7 87.Dc8-c5+ Ka7-b8 88.h3-h4 Dc1-d2+ 89.Kg2-h3 Dd2-d3 90.Dc5-f8+ Kb8-a7 91.Sf5-d6 Dd3-e3 92.Df8-f7+ Ka7-b6 93.Df7-b7+ Kb6-c5 94.Db7-b4+ Kc5-d4 95.c4-c5+ Kd4-d3 96.Db4-b3+ Kd3-e2
 44/77	02:26	 2.405.727k	16.472k	+9,61	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-a8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Da8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 Dg5-f4 73.Db2-e2 Df4-c1 74.g4-g5 a5-a4 75.Sd1-e3 Kf7-e8 76.g5-g6 Dc1-g1+ 77.Kg2-f3 Dg1-h1+ 78.Se3-g2 Dh1-c1 79.Kf3-g4 Dc1-h6 80.Sg2xh4 g3-g2 81.De2xg2 Lh2-f4 82.Sh4-f5 Dh6xg6+ 83.Kg4-f3 Dg6xg2+ 84.Kf3xg2 Lf4-d2 85.Kg2-f3 Ld2-b4 86.Sf5-d6+ Ke8-d7 87.Sd6-b5 Kd7-e7 88.Kf3-g3 Ke7-f6 89.Kg3-g4 Kf6-g6
 45/87-	02:54	 2.889.535k	16.515k	+8,46	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep
 45/87+	03:19	 3.292.660k	16.508k	+9,75	59.g2-g4
 45/87	04:20	 4.294.716k	16.510k	+10,46	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 Dg5-f4 73.Db2-e2 Df4-c1 74.g4-g5 a5-a4 75.Sd1-e3 Kf7-e8 76.g5-g6 Dc1-g1+ 77.Kg2-f3 Dg1-h1+ 78.Se3-g2 Dh1-c1 79.Kf3-g4 Dc1-h6 80.Sg2xh4 g3-g2 81.De2xg2 Lh2-f4 82.Sh4-f5 Dh6xg6+ 83.Kg4-f3 Dg6xg2+ 84.Kf3xg2 Lf4-d2 85.Kg2-f3 Ld2-b4 86.Sf5-d6+ Ke8-d7 87.Sd6-b5 Kd7-e7 88.Kf3-g4 Ke7-f6 89.h3-h4 Kf6-g6 90.h4-h5+ Kg6-f6 91.h5-h6 Kf6-g6 92.d5-d6 Lb4-a5 93.Sb5-a7 La5-b6 94.Sa7-c6 Kg6xh6 95.Kg4-f5 Kh6-h5 96.Sc6xe5 Kh5-h4
 46/103	06:48	 6.725.532k	16.451k	+10,48	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 Dg5-f4 73.Db2-e2 Df4-c1 74.g4-g5 a5-a4 75.Sd1-e3 Kf7-e8 76.g5-g6 Dc1-g1+ 77.Kg2-f3 Dg1-h1+ 78.Se3-g2 Dh1-c1 79.Kf3-g4 Dc1-h6 80.Sg2xh4 g3-g2 81.De2xg2 Lh2-f4 82.Sh4-f5 Dh6xg6+ 83.Kg4-f3 Dg6xg2+ 84.Kf3xg2 Lf4-d2 85.h3-h4 Ke8-f7 86.h4-h5 Ld2-c1 87.h5-h6 Kf7-g6 88.d5-d6 Lc1-d2 89.Kg2-g3 Ld2-a5 90.Kg3-g4 La5-b6 91.Sf5-e7+ Kg6xh6 92.Kg4-f5 Lb6-d8 93.Se7-c6 Ld8-h4 94.d6-d7 Kh6-h5 95.Sc6xe5 Lh4-d8 96.Se5-c6 Ld8-b6 97.e4-e5 Kh5-h4 98.d7-d8D+ Lb6xd8
 47/79	08:54	 8.915.931k	16.686k	+10,90	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 89.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-f4 Kc6-d6 95.Kf4-f5 Kd6-c7 96.Kf5-e5 Kc7-c8 97.Ke5-d5 Kc8-b7 98.Sg7-e6
 48/92	09:15	 9.262.574k	16.682k	+10,90	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 89.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-e5 Kc6-b6 95.Ke5-d5 Kb6-a5 96.Sg7-e6 Ka5-b6 97.Se6xc5 Kb6-c7 98.Sc5-e6+ Kc7-c8 99.Kd5-d6 Kc8-b7 100.c4-c5
 49/83	09:22	 9.370.896k	16.669k	+10,90	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 89.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-e5 Kc6-b6 95.Ke5-d5 Kb6-a5 96.Sg7-e6 Ka5-b6 97.Se6xc5 Kb6-c7 98.Sc5-e6+ Kc7-c8 99.Kd5-d6 Kc8-b7 100.c4-c5
 50/83	12:23	 12.460.034k	16.766k	+10,92	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Dh6-b6 77.Dc3-b2 Db6-a5 78.Db2-e2 Da5-b6 79.g4-g5 Kf7-g6 80.De2-d3 Kg6xg5 81.d5-d6 Kg5-f6 82.Dd3-f3+ Kf6-e6 83.Df3-f5+ Ke6xd6 84.Df5-f6+ Kd6-c7 85.Df6xb6+ Kc7xb6 86.Sd1-e3 Kb6-c6 87.Se3-f5 Kc6-d7 88.Sf5xh4 Kd7-e7 89.Sh4-f5+ Ke7-e6 90.Sf5xg3 Lh2xg3 91.Kg2xg3 Ke6-e7 92.Kg3-h4 Ke7-e6 93.Kh4-g5 Ke6-d7 94.h3-h4 Kd7-d6 95.Kg5-f5 Kd6-d7
 51/82	16:50	 17.378.904k	17.191k	+10,96	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 89.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-e5 Kc6-b6 95.Ke5-d6 Kb6-a7 96.Kd6-d5 Ka7-a8 97.Sg7-e6 Ka8-b7 98.Se6xc5+ Kb7-c7 99.Sc5-e6+ Kc7-c8
 52/82	18:43	 19.392.190k	17.256k	+10,99	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 89.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-e5 Kc6-b6 95.Ke5-d6 Kb6-a7 96.Kd6-d5 Ka7-a8 97.Sg7-e6 Ka8-b7 98.Se6xc5+ Kb7-b6 99.Sc5-e6 Kb6-a6
 53/83	19:51	 20.665.953k	17.348k	+10,99	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 89.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-e5 Kc6-b6 95.Ke5-d6 Kb6-a7 96.Kd6-d5 Ka7-a8 97.Sg7-e6 Ka8-b7 98.Kd5xc5 Kb7-b8 99.Kc5-d5 Kb8-c8 100.c4-c5
 54/83	20:00	 20.851.354k	17.366k	+10,99	59.g2-g4 f4xg3/ep 60.Kf1-g2 Da7-b8 61.b5-b6 c7xb6 62.Db3-b5 Db8-d8 63.Db5-c6+ Kb7-b8 64.Sb2-d1 g5-g4 65.f3xg4 Dd8-g5 66.Dc6xb6+ Kb8-c8 67.Db6-c6+ Kc8-d8 68.Dc6xd6+ Kd8-e8 69.Dd6-e6+ Ke8-d8 70.De6-b6+ Kd8-e8 71.Db6-b5+ Ke8-f7 72.Db5-b2 a5-a4 73.Db2-c3 Dg5-h6 74.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 75.De3-d3 Db6-h6 76.Dd3-c3 Kf7-f8 77.Dc3-e3 Dh6-b6 78.De3-f3+ Kf8-e8 79.g4-g5 Db6-b1 80.Df3-e2 Db1-a1 81.d5-d6 Da1-d4 82.Sd1-e3 Dd4xe4+ 83.De2-f3 De4xf3+ 84.Kg2xf3 g3-g2 85.Kf3xg2 Lh2-f4 86.g5-g6 Lf4-h6 87.Kg2-f3 Lh6-g7 88.Se3-f5 Lg7-f6 89.Kf3-e4 Ke8-d7 90.g6-g7 Lf6xg7 91.Sf5xg7 Kd7xd6 92.Ke4-f5 e5-e4 93.Kf5xe4 Kd6-c6 94.Ke4-e5 Kc6-b6 95.Ke5-d6 Kb6-a7 96.Kd6-d5 Ka7-a8 97.Sg7-e6 Ka8-b7 98.Kd5xc5 Kb7-b8 99.Kc5-d5 Kb8-c8 100.c4-c5
And this, what Crystal after 59.Na4 Qb6 60.g4 shows in MultiPV=6 and depth 38/96 after 6 hours, already started with full hash from Forward- Backward:


[fen]8/1kp5/1q1p4/pPpPp1p1/N1P1PpPp/PQ3P1P/7b/5K2 b - g3 0 1[/fen]


Analysis by Crystal 251221: (classical eval)

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1. +-  (11.67): 60...Kc8 61.Dc2 Lg3 62.Sb2 Db8 63.Dc3 Da7 64.a4 Kb7 65.Sd3 Db6 66.Da1 Lh2 67.Db2 Lg3 68.Kg2 Kc8 69.Dc3 Kb7 70.Dd2 Ka8 71.Sc1 Da7 72.Sb3 Kb7 73.Dxa5 Dxa5 74.Sxa5+ Kb6 75.Sc6 Le1 76.Kg1 La5 77.Kf1 Lc3 78.Ke2 La5 79.Sd8 Ka7 80.Se6 Ka8 81.Sxg5 Kb7 82.Se6 Kc8 83.Sf8 Kd8 84.Sg6 Ke8 85.Sxh4 Kf7 86.Sf5 Lb4 87.h4 Kf6 

2. +-  (11.68): 60...Ka8 61.Dc2 Lg3 62.Sb2 Db8 63.Db3 Ka7 64.Dc3 Db6 65.a4 Kb7 66.Kg1 Ka8 67.Sd3 Kb7 68.Dc2 Kb8 69.Kg2 Kb7 70.Kf1 Da7 71.Dc3 Db6 72.Sc1 Da7 73.Kg2 Kc8 74.Sb3 Kb7 75.Dxa5 Dxa5 76.Sxa5+ Kb6 77.Sc6 Le1 78.Kg1 La5 79.Kf2 Ld2 80.Ke2 La5 81.Sd8 Ka7 82.Se6 Ka8 83.Sxg5 Kb7 84.Se6 Kc8 85.Sf8 Kd8 86.Sg6 Ke8 87.Sxh4 Kf7 88.Sf5 Lb4 89.h4 Kf6 

3. +-  (11.69): 60...Ka7 61.Dc2 Lg3 62.Sb2 Db8 63.Dc3 Db6 64.a4 Kb7 65.Sd3 Lh2 66.Kf2 Lg3+ 67.Ke2 Lh2 68.Kf1 Lg3 69.Sc1 Da7 70.Kg2 Ka8 71.Sb3 Kb7 72.Dxa5 Dxa5 73.Sxa5+ Kb6 74.Sc6 Le1 75.Kf1 Lc3 76.Ke2 La5 77.Sd8 Ka7 78.Se6 Ka8 79.Sxg5 Kb7 80.Se6 Kc8 81.Sf8 Kd8 82.Sg6 Ke8 83.Sxh4 Kf7 84.Sf5 Lb4 85.g5 Kg6 86.h4 Kh5 87.Se7 Kxh4 

4. +-  (11.74): 60...Kb8 61.Dc2 Lg3 62.Sb2 Ka7 63.Dd2 Ka8 64.a4 Da7 65.Dc2 Db6 66.Sd3 Kb7 67.Db3 Kc8 68.Dc3 Kb7 69.Sc1 Da7 70.Kg2 Kb8 71.Sb3 Kb7 72.Dxa5 Dxa5 73.Sxa5+ Kb6 74.Sc6 Le1 75.Kg1 La5 76.Kf2 Ld2 77.Ke2 Lb4 78.Sd8 Lc3 79.Sf7 Kb7 80.Sxg5 Kc8 81.Se6 La5 82.Sg7 Lb6 83.Sf5 Kd8 84.Sxh4 Ke8 85.Sf5 Kf7 86.h4 La5 87.g5 Kg6 

5. +-  (11.74): 60...Lg3 61.Dc2 Ka8 62.Sb2 Db8 63.Db3 Ka7 64.Dc3 Db6 65.a4 Kb7 66.Dc2 Kc8 67.Sd3 Kb7 68.Dc1 Lh2 69.Dc3 Lg3 70.Sc1 Da7 71.Kg2 Kc8 72.Sb3 Kb7 73.Dxa5 Dxa5 74.Sxa5+ Kb6 75.Sc6 Le1 76.Kf1 Lc3 77.Ke2 Lb4 78.Sd8 Lc3 79.Sf7 La5 80.Kf1 Ka7 81.Sxg5 Kb8 82.Se6 Kc8 83.Ke2 Lb6 84.Sf8 La5 85.Sg6 Kd7 86.Sxh4 Kd8 87.Sf5 Ke8 88.h4 Kf7 89.g5 Kg6 

6. +-  (36.68): 60...Da7 61.b6 Da6 62.bxc7+ Kxc7 63.Sc3 Da8 64.Kf2 Da6 65.Db5 Da8 66.Sa4 Lg3+ 67.Kf1 Db7 68.Sc3 Da8 69.Da4 Da6 70.Ke2 Lh2 71.Db5 Da8 72.Kf2 Lg3+ 73.Kf1 Lh2 74.Sa4 Lg3 75.Db6+ Kd7 76.Sc3 Dd8 77.Db7+ Dc7 78.Dxc7+ Kxc7 79.Sb5+ Kd7 80.Sa7 Kd8 81.Sc6+ Kc7 82.Sxa5 Lh2 83.Sc6 Kc8 84.Kf2 Kb7 85.Se7 Kc7 86.Kf1 Lg3 87.Sf5 Kd7 88.a4 Kc7 89.Sg7 Kb6 90.Se8 Ka5 91.Sxd6 Kxa4 92.Sf7 Kb4 93.d6 Kxc4 94.d7 Kb3 95.d8D
I don't think, 60.g4 is any less strong than it would have been at 59., and if Black decides for 59...Bg3 to prevent g4, 60.b6 isn't any less strong neither, is it?

After 59...Bg3 60.b6:


[fen]8/qkp5/1P1p4/p1pPp1p1/N1P1Pp1p/PQ3PbP/6P1/5K2 b - - 0 1[/fen]



Analysis by Crystal 251221:

60...Da6 61.bxc7+ Kxc7 62.Sc3 Lh2 63.a4 Kc8 64.Kf2 Lg3+ 65.Ke2 Lh2 66.Kf1 Lg3 67.Db5 Dxb5 68.cxb5 Kb7 69.b6 c4 70.Sb5 c3 71.Sxd6+ Kxb6 72.Sc4+ Kc5 73.Sxa5 Kb4 74.Sc6+ Kxa4 75.Sxe5 c2 76.Sd3 Kb5 77.Ke2 Kc4 78.Kd2 c1T 79.Sxc1 Lf2 80.Sd3 Lb6 81.Se5+ Kd4 82.Sf7 La5+ 83.Ke2 Kc5 84.Kd3 Lc7 85.Sxg5 Lb6 86.Se6+ Kd6 87.Sxf4 Ke5 88.Sg6+ Kf6 89.Sxh4 Lc7 90.Sf5 Lf4 91.h4 Kf7 92.Kc3 Lb8 93.Kc4 Le5 94.h5 Kf6 95.Kb5 Lb2 96.h6 Kg6
+- (12.28) Tiefe: 39/87 00:04:16 18371MN

Again @ Milos: only 60.g4 after 59...Qb6 is a premove, don't care about the output- lines as for that. But you can take 60.b6 as premove after 59...Bg3 as well.
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peter
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

Post by peter »

peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:30 am After 59...Bg3 60.b6:


[fen]8/qkp5/1P1p4/p1pPp1p1/N1P1Pp1p/PQ3PbP/6P1/5K2 b - - 0 1[/fen]



Analysis by Crystal 251221:

60...Da6 61.bxc7+ Kxc7 62.Sc3 Lh2 63.a4 Kc8 64.Kf2 Lg3+ 65.Ke2 Lh2 66.Kf1 Lg3 67.Db5 Dxb5 68.cxb5 Kb7 69.b6 c4 70.Sb5 c3 71.Sxd6+ Kxb6 72.Sc4+ Kc5 73.Sxa5 Kb4 74.Sc6+ Kxa4 75.Sxe5 c2 76.Sd3 Kb5 77.Ke2 Kc4 78.Kd2 c1T 79.Sxc1 Lf2 80.Sd3 Lb6 81.Se5+ Kd4 82.Sf7 La5+ 83.Ke2 Kc5 84.Kd3 Lc7 85.Sxg5 Lb6 86.Se6+ Kd6 87.Sxf4 Ke5 88.Sg6+ Kf6 89.Sxh4 Lc7 90.Sf5 Lf4 91.h4 Kf7 92.Kc3 Lb8 93.Kc4 Le5 94.h5 Kf6 95.Kb5 Lb2 96.h6 Kg6
+- (12.28) Tiefe: 39/87 00:04:16 18371MN
After some longer pondering again:

8/qkp5/1P1p4/p1pPp1p1/N1P1Pp1p/PQ3PbP/6P1/5K2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Crystal 251221:

60...Qa6 61.bxc7+ Kxc7 62.Nc3 Bh2 63.a4 Kc8 64.Kf2 Bg3+ 65.Ke2 Bh2 66.Kf1 Kc7 67.Nb5+ Kd7 68.Na3 Kc7 69.Kf2 Bg3+ 70.Ke2 Qa8 71.Qb5 Bh2 72.Kf2 Bg3+ 73.Kf1 g4 74.hxg4 h3 75.gxh3 Bh4 76.Ke2 Bf6 77.Nb1 Kd8 78.Qb6+ Kd7 79.Na3 Qd8 80.Qc6+ Ke7 81.Nb5 Bg7 82.h4 Bf6 83.g5 Bg7 84.Qb7+ Qd7 85.Qxd7+ Kxd7 86.Na7 Ke8 87.Nc6 Kf7 88.h5 Bf8 89.Nxa5 Be7 90.g6+ Kg7 91.Nb7 Bf8 92.a5 Kh6 93.a6 Be7 94.a7
+- (14.05) Depth: 41/93 00:21:55 102013MN
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Spliffjiffer
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

Post by Spliffjiffer »

peter wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:30 am
I don't think, 60.g4 is any less strong than it would have been at 59., and if Black decides for 59...Bg3 to prevent g4, 60.b6 isn't any less strong neither, is it?

After 59...Bg3 60.b6:


[fen]8/qkp5/1P1p4/p1pPp1p1/N1P1Pp1p/PQ3PbP/6P1/5K2 b - - 0 1[/fen]



Analysis by Crystal 251221:

60...Da6 61.bxc7+ Kxc7 62.Sc3 Lh2 63.a4 Kc8 64.Kf2 Lg3+ 65.Ke2 Lh2 66.Kf1 Lg3 67.Db5 Dxb5 68.cxb5 Kb7 69.b6 c4 70.Sb5 c3 71.Sxd6+ Kxb6 72.Sc4+ Kc5 73.Sxa5 Kb4 74.Sc6+ Kxa4 75.Sxe5 c2 76.Sd3 Kb5 77.Ke2 Kc4 78.Kd2 c1T 79.Sxc1 Lf2 80.Sd3 Lb6 81.Se5+ Kd4 82.Sf7 La5+ 83.Ke2 Kc5 84.Kd3 Lc7 85.Sxg5 Lb6 86.Se6+ Kd6 87.Sxf4 Ke5 88.Sg6+ Kf6 89.Sxh4 Lc7 90.Sf5 Lf4 91.h4 Kf7 92.Kc3 Lb8 93.Kc4 Le5 94.h5 Kf6 95.Kb5 Lb2 96.h6 Kg6
+- (12.28) Tiefe: 39/87 00:04:16 18371MN

Again @ Milos: only 60.g4 after 59...Qb6 is a premove, don't care about the output- lines as for that. But you can take 60.b6 as premove after 59...Bg3 as well.
i dont think so as well :-)...id rather say that 59. Na4 was another bomb you unleashed but i did not investigate at all and just trust your analysis-lines, Peter....excellent play !!
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Re: Stockfish get too deep and see nothing

Post by Uri Blass »

I wonder if there are chess programs who can solve the starting position let say at 3 minutes per move not in the meaning of finding one best move but in the meaning of beating every opponent with white.

I also wonder if you can define some simple algorithm for humans how to win with white so human who follow it can win with white without computer help or at least get a position that is a simple win based on engine-engine game for every engine with rating of at least 3000.
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