some details about planned dragon-human match

[lkaufman]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162
https://statsmash.com/calculator/ben-finegold-net-worth

It's not a question of whether or not he is rich (these internet estimates are just nonsense, often off by a factor of ten or more either way); obviously just by doing calculations like you did it is clear that he (and Nakamura) are earning far more per year than most GMs, and so no one would donate to them as charity cases, they must see some benefit to doing so. I'm sure there are perks to donating at least once a year or so, maybe no ads or some other privileges, but I'm asking why people would donate more than say ten dollars per year or whatever is needed to get to watch with those privileges. I'd just like to understand this online streaming world a bit better; no one (except maybe TV evangelists or charities) ever asked for donations on TV shows when I was young, I wonder why it works so well now. But then I don't understand why people buy cryptocurrencies or NFTs or a lot of other such things nowadays, it's just a different world I guess.

[Chessqueen]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162
https://statsmash.com/calculator/ben-finegold-net-worth

It's not a question of whether or not he is rich (these internet estimates are just nonsense, often off by a factor of ten or more either way); obviously just by doing calculations like you did it is clear that he (and Nakamura) are earning far more per year than most GMs, and so no one would donate to them as charity cases, they must see some benefit to doing so. I'm sure there are perks to donating at least once a year or so, maybe no ads or some other privileges, but I'm asking why people would donate more than say ten dollars per year or whatever is needed to get to watch with those privileges. I'd just like to understand this online streaming world a bit better; no one (except maybe TV evangelists or charities) ever asked for donations on TV shows when I was young, I wonder why it works so well now. But then I don't understand why people buy cryptocurrencies or NFTs or a lot of other such things nowadays, it's just a different world I guess.

This ca not be correct GM Nakamura makes more money than the World Chess Champion https://wealthygorilla.com/magnus-carlsen-net-worth/
https://www.wealthypersons.com/hikaru-n ... 2020-2021/

[Cornfed]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162
https://statsmash.com/calculator/ben-finegold-net-worth

It's not a question of whether or not he is rich (these internet estimates are just nonsense, often off by a factor of ten or more either way); obviously just by doing calculations like you did it is clear that he (and Nakamura) are earning far more per year than most GMs, and so no one would donate to them as charity cases, they must see some benefit to doing so. I'm sure there are perks to donating at least once a year or so, maybe no ads or some other privileges, but I'm asking why people would donate more than say ten dollars per year or whatever is needed to get to watch with those privileges. I'd just like to understand this online streaming world a bit better; no one (except maybe TV evangelists or charities) ever asked for donations on TV shows when I was young, I wonder why it works so well now. But then I don't understand why people buy cryptocurrencies or NFTs or a lot of other such things nowadays, it's just a different world I guess.

People are stupid, Larry. I come close to being from the same time as you. Change in the world is exponential now. More and more the 'average guy' is out to make a buck in non-traditional ways. Many, in part, precisely because it is so easy to convince people to part with their money.

I mean...a self-absorbed huckster who cheated on his wife, paid to have it 'buried', underpaid his bills (if at all sometimes) etc, etc got evangelicals of all people (and others...) to come out in droves to elect him President. The world doesn't make sense anymore...except thru some perceived 'self-interest' people can be convinced of/scared into. But...I digress. Or...do I?

[Chessqueen]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162

It all depends from what source you are getting his net worth, this is the most updated 2.54 Million https://peopleai.com/fame/identities/ben-finegold

[lkaufman]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162
https://statsmash.com/calculator/ben-finegold-net-worth

It's not a question of whether or not he is rich (these internet estimates are just nonsense, often off by a factor of ten or more either way); obviously just by doing calculations like you did it is clear that he (and Nakamura) are earning far more per year than most GMs, and so no one would donate to them as charity cases, they must see some benefit to doing so. I'm sure there are perks to donating at least once a year or so, maybe no ads or some other privileges, but I'm asking why people would donate more than say ten dollars per year or whatever is needed to get to watch with those privileges. I'd just like to understand this online streaming world a bit better; no one (except maybe TV evangelists or charities) ever asked for donations on TV shows when I was young, I wonder why it works so well now. But then I don't understand why people buy cryptocurrencies or NFTs or a lot of other such things nowadays, it's just a different world I guess.

People are stupid, Larry. I come close to being from the same time as you. Change in the world is exponential now. More and more the 'average guy' is out to make a buck in non-traditional ways. Many, in part, precisely because it is so easy to convince people to part with their money.

I mean...a self-absorbed huckster who cheated on his wife, paid to have it 'buried', underpaid his bills (if at all sometimes) etc, etc got evangelicals of all people (and others...) to come out in droves to elect him President. The world doesn't make sense anymore...except thru some perceived 'self-interest' people can be convinced of/scared into. But...I digress. Or...do I?

Perhaps I should just pose the question (relevant to this forum) of whether viewers would donate significantly to sponsor some sort of event involving Dragon and GMs who may not be noted streamers, and if so what format would induce such donations and what would we need to do to make it happen?

[Uri Blass]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162
https://statsmash.com/calculator/ben-finegold-net-worth

It's not a question of whether or not he is rich (these internet estimates are just nonsense, often off by a factor of ten or more either way); obviously just by doing calculations like you did it is clear that he (and Nakamura) are earning far more per year than most GMs, and so no one would donate to them as charity cases, they must see some benefit to doing so. I'm sure there are perks to donating at least once a year or so, maybe no ads or some other privileges, but I'm asking why people would donate more than say ten dollars per year or whatever is needed to get to watch with those privileges. I'd just like to understand this online streaming world a bit better; no one (except maybe TV evangelists or charities) ever asked for donations on TV shows when I was young, I wonder why it works so well now. But then I don't understand why people buy cryptocurrencies or NFTs or a lot of other such things nowadays, it's just a different world I guess.

People are stupid, Larry. I come close to being from the same time as you. Change in the world is exponential now. More and more the 'average guy' is out to make a buck in non-traditional ways. Many, in part, precisely because it is so easy to convince people to part with their money.

I mean...a self-absorbed huckster who cheated on his wife, paid to have it 'buried', underpaid his bills (if at all sometimes) etc, etc got evangelicals of all people (and others...) to come out in droves to elect him President. The world doesn't make sense anymore...except thru some perceived 'self-interest' people can be convinced of/scared into. But...I digress. Or...do I?

Perhaps I should just pose the question (relevant to this forum) of whether viewers would donate significantly to sponsor some sort of event involving Dragon and GMs who may not be noted streamers, and if so what format would induce such donations and what would we need to do to make it happen?

I suspect that my count of the money is wrong because every pair of donator and donation seem to appear multiple times on the screen including few cases of different donations by the same donator.

It does not seem logical to me that there are 0 donators who donate only one time or even only twice in the first 7 minutes and 30 seconds.

[Chessqueen]

I do not see that ben finegold is so rich based on the following links that I found by searching in google so I wonder what is correct

https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/ben-finegol ... phy-707162
https://statsmash.com/calculator/ben-finegold-net-worth

It's not a question of whether or not he is rich (these internet estimates are just nonsense, often off by a factor of ten or more either way); obviously just by doing calculations like you did it is clear that he (and Nakamura) are earning far more per year than most GMs, and so no one would donate to them as charity cases, they must see some benefit to doing so. I'm sure there are perks to donating at least once a year or so, maybe no ads or some other privileges, but I'm asking why people would donate more than say ten dollars per year or whatever is needed to get to watch with those privileges. I'd just like to understand this online streaming world a bit better; no one (except maybe TV evangelists or charities) ever asked for donations on TV shows when I was young, I wonder why it works so well now. But then I don't understand why people buy cryptocurrencies or NFTs or a lot of other such things nowadays, it's just a different world I guess.

People are stupid, Larry. I come close to being from the same time as you. Change in the world is exponential now. More and more the 'average guy' is out to make a buck in non-traditional ways. Many, in part, precisely because it is so easy to convince people to part with their money.

I mean...a self-absorbed huckster who cheated on his wife, paid to have it 'buried', underpaid his bills (if at all sometimes) etc, etc got evangelicals of all people (and others...) to come out in droves to elect him President. The world doesn't make sense anymore...except thru some perceived 'self-interest' people can be convinced of/scared into. But...I digress. Or...do I?

Perhaps I should just pose the question (relevant to this forum) of whether viewers would donate significantly to sponsor some sort of event involving Dragon and GMs who may not be noted streamers, and if so what format would induce such donations and what would we need to do to make it happen?

I suspect that my count of the money is wrong because every pair of donator and donation seem to appear multiple times on the screen including few cases of different donations by the same donator.

It does not seem logical to me that there are 0 donators who donate only one time or even only twice in the first 7 minutes and 30 seconds.

You should have both sponsors and also ask for some Talkchess Subscribers to donate which are a total of 988,000 to donate if at least you get 7,000 of the Talkchess subscribers to donate at least $1.00 you should get at least $7,000 https://dz.youtubers.me/chess-talk/yout ... arnings/en

Note: Look and listen at the beginning of GM Finegold 1st video he also give thanks to his sponsors, we do not know how much they donate
Here is the video of game 1