This question is good and right!
As I got the first three I delete it in outlook.
Looking on the mail address and name, not more!
Later I got four more and looking in detail.
The last one is written from U.S., German time 02:36 in the morning.
Interesting on the last mail I got in the morning is the beginning.
A follow-up from that what the programmer of Cheng wrote in TalkChess and much more below the belt.
Again the topic is Fire!
The mail to Ukraine comes from Russland, not from a programmer.
The writer spoke from Booot and Ivantschuk I like.
Must be an insider. Sent hard pictures ... will not go in detail.
A reader from TalkChess for sure after that what I got.
Can be random ... I got this mail around to the same time as an other from a good known user here.
On the other hand, I have only a contact form on my web site.
People must have my mail address. I am very sure that the mail to the topic Ukraine comes also from the chess cumminity and after the pics I got I am very sure it must I a reader or member from TalkChess.
Again, very sure is not 100%
The first three I delete ... 5 I have.
Names can be manipulated ...
In combination what I got from programmers in copy I am sure that three of the mails are very real.
Please lesser hate mails ...
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Frank Quisinsky
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
Ivantchuk is my favorite player.
Booot one of my favorite programs.
I believe that can be dynamite for an reader (booth are from Ukraine).
The colors from the country on my site, of course for other reasons ... nothing to do with Booot or Ivantschuk.
But the writer start the mail harmless with Booot and Ivantschuk.
I am using TalkChess and the German CSS Forum.
Wrote that often in different TalkChess messages (Ivantschuk and Booot in the last years).
OK, have the information about favorite players, books and engines on my site "about me".
I am not 100% sure a TalkChess user or not.
On the other hand in one of the pics is a part of an English text from me I wrote for some months.
My bad English is exclusive for TalkChess.
This mail was the hardest I ever got.
I am thinking about it to give that material to the German police.
Again, I have no problems which such things.
But in the morning I am thinking ...
Please not again a freaky chess guy.
Enough is enough!
Booot one of my favorite programs.
I believe that can be dynamite for an reader (booth are from Ukraine).
The colors from the country on my site, of course for other reasons ... nothing to do with Booot or Ivantschuk.
But the writer start the mail harmless with Booot and Ivantschuk.
I am using TalkChess and the German CSS Forum.
Wrote that often in different TalkChess messages (Ivantschuk and Booot in the last years).
OK, have the information about favorite players, books and engines on my site "about me".
I am not 100% sure a TalkChess user or not.
On the other hand in one of the pics is a part of an English text from me I wrote for some months.
My bad English is exclusive for TalkChess.
This mail was the hardest I ever got.
I am thinking about it to give that material to the German police.
Again, I have no problems which such things.
But in the morning I am thinking ...
Please not again a freaky chess guy.
Enough is enough!
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
And for Andrew ...
after your release of Ethereal 13.50 I am for some reasons very disappointend.
On the other hand you are the programmer and you can do with your program what you like to do.
You don't need Quisinsky for any instruction.
What I wrote in TalkChess was a mistake from myself.
The mail I wrote to you my second mistake (gave my registration without download from v. 13.50 back).
And now in combination with ...
Frank is not testing Ethereal 13.50 NN ...
But he must have version 13.50 NN because 13.25 NN is the same list ...
People have to many nonsense in the brain.
All this in combination with the Fire topic and your opinion about Norman or Norman's opinion about you.
Such things will give others the information a war is still running.
Andrew, no war from my site ...
I like your work and I like the work from the programmer of Fire.
I am testing Ethereal 13.07 ... what I can do after the situation.
No other rating system test your last free version after my information.
I have around 2500 games, what should I do?
Ethereal must be inside, in my tourneys and stats.
For many people a war is still running.
And it seems that others would like a part of the war and sent hate mails.
Same as I released Ruffian.
A programmer from the The Netherland send absoluty wrong information to many others.
A clone from Shredder ... so the programmer of Rufian sent sources to the tournament organization in Leiden.
Never I got a sorry, what I got are a lot of such hate mails.
Some other situation in the past.
That is allways the same and for me really a Kindergarten.
Best
Frank
after your release of Ethereal 13.50 I am for some reasons very disappointend.
On the other hand you are the programmer and you can do with your program what you like to do.
You don't need Quisinsky for any instruction.
What I wrote in TalkChess was a mistake from myself.
The mail I wrote to you my second mistake (gave my registration without download from v. 13.50 back).
And now in combination with ...
Frank is not testing Ethereal 13.50 NN ...
But he must have version 13.50 NN because 13.25 NN is the same list ...
People have to many nonsense in the brain.
All this in combination with the Fire topic and your opinion about Norman or Norman's opinion about you.
Such things will give others the information a war is still running.
Andrew, no war from my site ...
I like your work and I like the work from the programmer of Fire.
I am testing Ethereal 13.07 ... what I can do after the situation.
No other rating system test your last free version after my information.
I have around 2500 games, what should I do?
Ethereal must be inside, in my tourneys and stats.
For many people a war is still running.
And it seems that others would like a part of the war and sent hate mails.
Same as I released Ruffian.
A programmer from the The Netherland send absoluty wrong information to many others.
A clone from Shredder ... so the programmer of Rufian sent sources to the tournament organization in Leiden.
Never I got a sorry, what I got are a lot of such hate mails.
Some other situation in the past.
That is allways the same and for me really a Kindergarten.
Best
Frank
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AndrewGrant
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
Your thread has nothing to do with me. I don't send you emails or messages.Frank Quisinsky wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:06 pm And for Andrew ...
after your release of Ethereal 13.50 I am for some reasons very disappointend.
On the other hand you are the programmer and you can do with your program what you like to do.
You don't need Quisinsky for any instruction.
What I wrote in TalkChess was a mistake from myself.
The mail I wrote to you my second mistake.
And now in combination with ...
Frank is not testing Ethereal 13.50 NN ...
But he must have version 13.50 NN because 13.25 NN is the same list ...
People have to many nonsense in the brain.
All this in combination with the Fire topic and your opinion about Norman or Norman's opinion about you.
Such things will give others the information a war is still running.
Andrew, no war from my site ...
I like your work and I like the work from the programmer of Fire.
I am testing Ethereal 13.07 ... what I can do after the situation.
No other rating system test your last free version after my information.
I have around 2500 games, what should I do?
Ethereal must be inside.
For many people a war is still running.
And it seems that others would like a part of the war and sent hate mails.
Best
Frank
I even have you on ignore on talkchess since I find your posts impossible to follow or read.
And I don't believe your claims. Why would someone yell at you? You are not party to the Fire Stockfish Houdini Fat Fritz II drama.
You have no particular stake. You are just a bystander.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
Andrew,
so long people for such an nonsensical stuff threaten my family I am not longer a bystander.
Let us wait a bit ...
I am sure different people have written the mails will give here a comment.
Best
Frank
so long people for such an nonsensical stuff threaten my family I am not longer a bystander.
Let us wait a bit ...
I am sure different people have written the mails will give here a comment.
Best
Frank
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
To TalkChess Administration:
Thank you for the reaction in Thread: 79949
Saw that for minutes!
Best
Frank
Thank you for the reaction in Thread: 79949
Saw that for minutes!
Best
Frank
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
The disrespect you show here toward someone who has been in this community for 20-30 years is pretty bad tbh...AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:14 pm
I even have you on ignore on talkchess since I find your posts impossible to follow or read.
And I don't believe your claims. Why would someone yell at you? You are not party to the Fire Stockfish Houdini Fat Fritz II drama.
You have no particular stake. You are just a bystander.
Firstly, mocking a person's English (who is probably speaking his 3rd or 4th language in learning English and whose English is perfectly understandable with a bit of patience)... 'Classy' Anglocentric attitude...
Do you also tell people to "go back to their country" if they can't speak fluent English the moment they arrive in America?
Second, blatantly calling him a liar when Frank has no reason whatsoever to lie to anyone, and I have never seen any evidence of dishonesty from him.
On what basis do you call him a liar? Because *you* don't get hate mail? Jeez.
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
His posts don't have logical flow. I am aware he is not an English speaker. A very large portion of the chess world does not speak English. This is news to nobody.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:54 amThe disrespect you show here toward someone who has been in this community for 20-30 years is pretty bad tbh...AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:14 pm
I even have you on ignore on talkchess since I find your posts impossible to follow or read.
And I don't believe your claims. Why would someone yell at you? You are not party to the Fire Stockfish Houdini Fat Fritz II drama.
You have no particular stake. You are just a bystander.
Firstly, mocking a person's English (who is probably speaking his 3rd or 4th language in learning English and whose English is perfectly understandable with a bit of patience)... 'Classy' Anglocentric attitude...![]()
Do you also tell people to "go back to their country" if they can't speak fluent English the moment they arrive in America?
Second, blatantly calling him a liar when Frank has no reason whatsoever to lie to anyone, and I have never seen any evidence of dishonesty from him.
On what basis do you call him a liar? Because *you* don't get hate mail? Jeez.
Bringing accusations of racism into this is very strange, frankly outright disgusting -- and I hope you don't make that mistake again especially in this day and age when such issues are indeed serious and widespread. Furthermore, unknown to you, I went through a process with Frank trying to set him up to run Chess.com's CCC events, but ultimately he did not have the time to do it despite having the interest.
As far as I know, Frank and I are on good terms -- as good of terms as you can expect from people with differing opinions but a shared common interest. You owe me an apology.
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
Hi Andrew,AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:07 amHis posts don't have logical flow. I am aware he is not an English speaker. Bringing accusations of racism into this is very strange, frankly outright disgusting -- and I hope you don't make that mistake again especially in this day and age when such issues are indeed serious and widespread. Furthermore, unknown to you, I went through a process with Frank trying to set him up to run Chess.com's CCC events, but ultimately he did not have the time to do it despite having the interest.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:54 amThe disrespect you show here toward someone who has been in this community for 20-30 years is pretty bad tbh...AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:14 pm
I even have you on ignore on talkchess since I find your posts impossible to follow or read.
And I don't believe your claims. Why would someone yell at you? You are not party to the Fire Stockfish Houdini Fat Fritz II drama.
You have no particular stake. You are just a bystander.
Firstly, mocking a person's English (who is probably speaking his 3rd or 4th language in learning English and whose English is perfectly understandable with a bit of patience)... 'Classy' Anglocentric attitude...![]()
Do you also tell people to "go back to their country" if they can't speak fluent English the moment they arrive in America?
Second, blatantly calling him a liar when Frank has no reason whatsoever to lie to anyone, and I have never seen any evidence of dishonesty from him.
On what basis do you call him a liar? Because *you* don't get hate mail? Jeez.
You owe me an apology.
Firstly, there was no allegation of racism. Maybe of linguistic bigotry, but not racism.
I'm not one of "those".
I was unaware of your previous adventures with Frank and apologize to that extent, while at the same time, I still think you were needlessly disrespectful to him.
It's unnecessary man, there are more respectful ways to say the same thing. This isn't 4chan.
Frank is a good dude who probably loves computer chess more than any of us.
I live in a country with a difficult language (Mandarin) and also dozens of regional dialects.
And nobody has ever haughtily proclaimed my Mandarin to "lack logical flow"...
It's more often "oh, brother...do you mean to say x? Yes, I understand" - or something like this.
It is not difficult to be nice.
With a true desire, any language obstacles can be overcome.
Logical flow or not.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Please lesser hate mails ...
Hi Brendan,
let him.
For two or three years Andrew sent mails that I should administration a comp-comp tournament site on a chess server. A big server, I believe it was chess.com ... or an other very big server ... at the moment forgotten.
He like my tournaments and he has good connection for such things.
I wrote him that it is a bad time for me for some reasons.
Honestly, after burn-out (comes from my job and problems with my ears) the wrong time for me.
I gave him this information.
Furthermore, I dislike chess-server (not a secret) and can my own work administration on a completly free site (my own).
I don't need any chess-server for such things or money for my interest around computer-chess.
I am thinking for 2 or 3 years ...
What is that for a guy?
Send me a mail and speaking from connections?
Often I am thinking lesser connections are better for me.
But I am on ignore ...
What for a nonsense!
Never I set a person from the community on ignore, why?
Best
Frank
let him.
For two or three years Andrew sent mails that I should administration a comp-comp tournament site on a chess server. A big server, I believe it was chess.com ... or an other very big server ... at the moment forgotten.
He like my tournaments and he has good connection for such things.
I wrote him that it is a bad time for me for some reasons.
Honestly, after burn-out (comes from my job and problems with my ears) the wrong time for me.
I gave him this information.
Furthermore, I dislike chess-server (not a secret) and can my own work administration on a completly free site (my own).
I don't need any chess-server for such things or money for my interest around computer-chess.
I am thinking for 2 or 3 years ...
What is that for a guy?
Send me a mail and speaking from connections?
Often I am thinking lesser connections are better for me.
But I am on ignore ...
What for a nonsense!
Never I set a person from the community on ignore, why?
Best
Frank
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