Amazing results of LeelaKnightOdds-Dev

[Father]

I could win yesterday in my only try against LeelaQueenForKnight
Here is the game

https://lichess.org/PzKxEehQ

Moshe Nahmias(fide rating 1572) had less luck in that time control and lost 3 games(at least he could win against the queen odds version of leela with the white pieces(did not try with black)

That's actually an accomplishment for you. It is rather unusual for anyone under LiChess 2200 to win at queen for knight, esoecially with the engine playing White. Performance rating is in the ballpark of 2400 as White I think. The knight-odds trained bot plays queen for knight even better than the current queen for knight bot.

Thank you Uri for providing us with this wonderful game that you played against LeelaQueenForKnight. Your move 35....Txdt left me amazed. The whole strategic line of simplification that you applied against the dangerous enemy, where you reaped the fruits of your intelligent battle in the beautiful: 63....Q5g5# which leads to your coronation as a human being in the proof of your victory against the cold entity. Well done Uri. Congratulations. !! Note. Uri, in the last three days, I have tested the already more dangerous entity called "LeelaKnightOdds"... The robot I feel is evolving becoming stronger, but we as human beings also clearly feel that we are becoming stronger facing the computer. It took me a little over 100 games this time to achieve my first draw in the last three days, October 17, 18 and 19, 2024. My feeling in the process of psychoanalytic understanding of the computer is that it is in trouble since I have detected the fissures through which one enters the dens and burrows of the cybernetic thought of the entity. Of course, the entity has Father between its eyebrows, however, I learn faster from the entity at the speed that it, the entity, can learn from me. Again. Thanks Uri.

[Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/H5ndv5I0"]
[Date "2024.10.19"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.19"]
[UTCTime "05:22:06"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nc3 d5 2. d4 e6 3. Bf4 c6 4. e4 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nxf6+ Qxf6 7. Be5 Qd8 8. Qd3 Nd7 9. Bg3 Nf6 10. O-O-O Bd6 11. Kb1 Qc7 12. Bh4 Bd7 13. Qf3 Be7 14. Bg3 Bd6 15. Bh4 Be7 16. Bg3 Bd6 17. Bh4 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2

[Father]

after additional losses in game 4 and game 5 I got a draw in game 6
Of course I knew that lc0 does not know my rating and is happy with a draw but it was relatively my best game with knight odds.

Maybe later I will try to win with a winning position but I am afraid I need more time for it to have practical chances and 5+3 is not enough.

https://lichess.org/0QdPn8LhnVov

Uri... I was meditating a little on the "Entity." I have considered that to defeat the "Entity" it is necessary to slap it in the face, make it angry, and lose all fear and respect for it. Both the time and power of the "Entity" are limited. Today only 59 games were enough for me to snatch two draws. But best of all, the computer has begun to feel afraid and tired. "LeelaKnighOdds" is confused, the computer does not expect such perseverance from the human ribal. The "Entity is retreating." ... is afraid... I show the entity my cards without fear, it is not necessary to be hidden, just face it and that's it. Today I am going to choose three games and I dedicate them to Mr. Uri Blass just as I dedicate them to Mr. Larry Kaufman. "The Entity is the stone", we humans are the drops of water, which over time give shape to the rocks.

https://lichess.org/ww7W6yU9/black
[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/ww7W6yU9"]
[Date "2024.10.19"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.19"]
[UTCTime "16:36:48"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e4 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nxf6+ Qxf6 7. Be5 Qd8 8. Qd3 Nd7 9. Bg3 Nf6 10. O-O-O Bd6 11. Be2 Bxg3 12. hxg3 Rg8 13. g4 h6 14. Kb1 Bd7 15. Qa3 Qe7 16. Qa5 Qd8 17. Qa3 Qe7 18. Qa5 Qd8 19. Qe5 Qb8 20. Qa5 Qd8 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

https://lichess.org/IMRUkkzZ/black

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/IMRUkkzZ"]
[Date "2024.10.19"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.19"]
[UTCTime "15:22:41"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. b3 d5 2. Bb2 e6 3. f4 c6 4. e3 f5 5. Nf3 Nf6 6. h3 Bd6 7. g4 Qe7 8. Qe2 Ba3 9. Bxa3 Qxa3 10. d3 Qe7 11. g5 Nh5 12. Kf2 g6 13. d4 O-O 14. Qd2 a6 15. b4 b5 16. a4 Ra7 17. Be2 Bd7 18. Ne5 Be8 19. Qc3 Qd6 20. h4 Kg7 21. Nd3 Rff7 22. Nc5 Rfe7 23. Kf3 Rec7 24. Ra3 Qe7 25. Rha1 Kg8 26. Qb2 Kg7 27. Kf2 Kg8 28. Kf3 Kg7 29. R1a2 Kg8 30. Kg2 Kg7 31. Qa1 Kg8 32. Bf3 Kg7 33. Be2 Kg8 34. Qb2 Kg7 35. Kf3 Kg8 36. Qa1 Kg7 37. Kf2 Kg8 38. Kg2 Kg7 39. Kf2 Kg8 40. c3 Kg7 41. axb5 cxb5 42. Ra5 Kg8 43. Kg2 Kg7 44. Kf2 Kg8 45. Kg2 Kg7 46. Bd3 Kg8 47. Kf2 Kg7 48. Kf3 Kg8 49. Kf2 Kg7 50. Kg2 Kg8 51. Kh3 Kg7 52. Bf1 Kg8 53. Be2 Kg7 54. Kg2 Kg8 55. Kf2 Kg7 56. Kg2 Kg8 57. Kf2 Kg7 58. Bf1 Kg8 59. Kg2 Kg7 60. R2a3 Kg8 61. Ra2 Kg7 62. R2a3 Kg8 63. Be2 Kg7 64. Kf3 Kg8 65. Kf2 Kg7 66. Kf3 Kg8 67. Kf2 Kg7 68. Bxh5 gxh5 69. Ke2 Bg6 70. c4 bxc4 71. b5 Rxc5 72. dxc5+ { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/JnDIqSgN"]
[Date "2024.10.19"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.19"]
[UTCTime "16:33:50"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 d5 2. e5 e6 3. c3 c5 4. a3 Nc6 5. d4 c4 6. Be2 a6 7. Qc2 b5 8. Bd1 a5 9. Qe2 a4 10. Bc2 Na5 11. Bf4 Nb3 12. Rd1 Be7 13. h4 Ra7 14. Nh3 h6 15. h5 Kd7 16. Be3 Kc7 17. g4 Kb8 18. f4 Bh4+ 19. Kf1 Be7 20. Rg1 Ka8 21. Rg2 Kb8 22. Kg1 Ka8 23. Rf1 Kb8 24. f5 Ka8 25. Qf3 Kb8 26. fxe6 Bxe6 27. Bf5 Qd7 28. Bxe6 Qxe6 29. Qxf7 Qxf7 30. Rxf7 Bxa3 31. Rxa7 Kxa7 32. bxa3 Ne7 33. Rf2 Nc6 34. Nf4 Rf8 35. Nxd5 Rxf2 36. Kxf2 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

https://lichess.org/JnDIqSgN/black

Note. The battle of men against chess computers represents a human right. In its development and implementation, the quadrilateral is open to all human beings, all people, that is, "all individuals of the human species, whatever their age, sex, race or condition." The battles of the Neoents are not our battle of people, we are humans and human people, those responsible for the fight of our fight to surpass ourselves in the fight against machines and AI, the Transhumanstournaments, they are not our tournaments

[Father]

after additional losses in game 4 and game 5 I got a draw in game 6
Of course I knew that lc0 does not know my rating and is happy with a draw but it was relatively my best game with knight odds.

Maybe later I will try to win with a winning position but I am afraid I need more time for it to have practical chances and 5+3 is not enough.

https://lichess.org/0QdPn8LhnVov

The results in Rapid games (so slower than your games) since the Sep 28 upgrade, against players rated over 2500 only, are 54 wins for the bot, 5 draws, and ZERO losses. Performance rating in Rapid about 3060. No one over 1800 has won a single game of Rapid since the upgrade. Some players rated below that or unrated have "wins", but they invariably show 98 or 99% accuracy per Stockfish which is extremely implausible for players below 1800 Rapid on Lichess, so given that no one above 1800 has won I would assume these were all cheaters using Stockfish. It seems that only low rated and especially unrated players cheat, the higher rated ones have presumably played a lot without getting banned and would have more to lose by being banned, with nothing to gain since the games are unrated. But weak players apparently want to "brag" about "beating" a bot, even at knight odds and using an engine!!

Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning. At the beginning of the day, today, one of my first motivations on a sunny day was to enjoy some games against LeelaKnightOdds robot. Today I face the silicon soldier with three tools in my being: 1- Absence of fear; 2- Flexible thinking; 3- Will and self-confidence. In this way I used a combination of normal chess and anti-machine elements. I felt that somehow the machine backed away and the machine expressed a feeling of surprise... I feel so sorry when I feel the chess algorithms, that the anxieties of the programmers are transmitted to their inventions. Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman for allowing me to play and understand the algorithmic profile of the wonderful robots.

https://lichess.org/GB3eZdM9/black

[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/GB3eZdM9"]
[Date "2024.10.20"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.20"]
[UTCTime "13:39:43"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. c3 e6 3. e3 c5 4. Bd3 Nf6 5. f4 Nc6 6. Nf3 c4 7. Bb1 Ne4 8. Qe2 f5 9. O-O Be7 10. Kh1 b5 11. Rg1 a6 12. g4 g6 13. h3 a5 14. Bd2 a4 15. a3 Bd7 16. Be1 Qc7 17. Bg3 O-O-O 18. Bh2 Rdg8 19. Bc2 Kb7 20. Rg2 Ka6 21. Rag1 Be8 22. h4 Bd8 23. Qe1 Kb7 24. Rf1 Ka6 25. Rfg1 Kb7 26. Rf1 Ka6 27. Rfg1 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/QqHuizA7"]
[Date "2024.10.20"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.20"]
[UTCTime "13:22:58"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 d5 2. e5 e6 3. c3 c5 4. a3 Nc6 5. d4 c4 6. Be2 a6 7. Nh3 b5 8. O-O a5 9. Kh1 a4 10. Bg4 Ra7 11. Bg5 Be7 12. Be3 Bf8 13. Qd2 g6 14. Rae1 Kd7 15. Ng5 Qe8 16. Bd1 Kc7 17. Bc2 Kb8 18. Qd1 Rb7 19. Qf3 Ka7 20. Bc1 Ka8 21. Re2 Ka7 22. Rfe1 Ka8 23. Bd2 Ka7 24. Bb1 Ka8 25. Kg1 Ka7 26. Kh1 Ka8 27. Kg1 Ka7 28. Bc2 Ka8 29. Bc1 Ka7 30. Bd2 Ka8 31. Bc1 Ka7 32. Kh1 Ka8 33. Bd2 Ka7 34. Nh3 Ka8 35. Nf4 Qd8 36. Bc1 Ka7 37. Bd2 Ka8 38. Bc1 Ka7 39. Kg1 Ka8 40. h3 Ka7 41. g4 Ka8 42. Qg3 Ka7 43. Re3 Ka8 44. Rf3 Qe8 45. h4 Ka7 46. Kf1 Ka8 47. Qg2 Ka7 48. Rfe3 Ka8 49. h5 Qd8 50. g5 Ka7 51. Rh3 Nce7 52. hxg6 Nxg6 53. Nh5 Ka8 54. Nf6 Nxf6 55. gxf6 h6 56. Ke2 Ka7 57. Reh1 Ka8 58. Bxg6 fxg6 59. Bxh6 Bxh6 60. Qxg6 Rbh7 61. Rxh6 Rxh6 62. Rxh6 Rxh6 63. Qxh6 Qg8 64. Qg7 Qd8 65. f7 Qh4 66. f8=Q Qe4+ 67. Kf1 Qb1+ 68. Kg2 Qe4+ 69. Kg3 Qd3+ 70. f3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

https://lichess.org/QqHuizA7/blac

[Father]

after additional losses in game 4 and game 5 I got a draw in game 6
Of course I knew that lc0 does not know my rating and is happy with a draw but it was relatively my best game with knight odds.



Maybe later I will try to win with a winning position but I am afraid I need more time for it to have practical chances and 5+3 is not enough.

https://lichess.org/0QdPn8LhnVov

The results in Rapid games (so slower than your games) since the Sep 28 upgrade, against players rated over 2500 only, are 54 wins for the bot, 5 draws, and ZERO losses. Performance rating in Rapid about 3060. No one over 1800 has won a single game of Rapid since the upgrade. Some players rated below that or unrated have "wins", but they invariably show 98 or 99% accuracy per Stockfish which is extremely implausible for players below 1800 Rapid on Lichess, so given that no one above 1800 has won I would assume these were all cheaters using Stockfish. It seems that only low rated and especially unrated players cheat, the higher rated ones have presumably played a lot without getting banned and would have more to lose by being banned, with nothing to gain since the games are unrated. But weak players apparently want to "brag" about "beating" a bot, even at knight odds and using an engine!!

Mr. Larry Kaufman, good morning. At the beginning of the day, today, one of my first motivations on a sunny day was to enjoy some games against LeelaKnightOdds robot. Today I face the silicon soldier with three tools in my being: 1- Absence of fear; 2- Flexible thinking; 3- Will and self-confidence. In this way I used a combination of normal chess and anti-machine elements. I felt that somehow the machine backed away and the machine expressed a feeling of surprise... I feel so sorry when I feel the chess algorithms, that the anxieties of the programmers are transmitted to their inventions. Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman for allowing me to play and understand the algorithmic profile of the wonderful robots.

https://lichess.org/GB3eZdM9/black

[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/GB3eZdM9"]
[Date "2024.10.20"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.20"]
[UTCTime "13:39:43"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. c3 e6 3. e3 c5 4. Bd3 Nf6 5. f4 Nc6 6. Nf3 c4 7. Bb1 Ne4 8. Qe2 f5 9. O-O Be7 10. Kh1 b5 11. Rg1 a6 12. g4 g6 13. h3 a5 14. Bd2 a4 15. a3 Bd7 16. Be1 Qc7 17. Bg3 O-O-O 18. Bh2 Rdg8 19. Bc2 Kb7 20. Rg2 Ka6 21. Rag1 Be8 22. h4 Bd8 23. Qe1 Kb7 24. Rf1 Ka6 25. Rfg1 Kb7 26. Rf1 Ka6 27. Rfg1 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/QqHuizA7"]
[Date "2024.10.20"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.20"]
[UTCTime "13:22:58"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 d5 2. e5 e6 3. c3 c5 4. a3 Nc6 5. d4 c4 6. Be2 a6 7. Nh3 b5 8. O-O a5 9. Kh1 a4 10. Bg4 Ra7 11. Bg5 Be7 12. Be3 Bf8 13. Qd2 g6 14. Rae1 Kd7 15. Ng5 Qe8 16. Bd1 Kc7 17. Bc2 Kb8 18. Qd1 Rb7 19. Qf3 Ka7 20. Bc1 Ka8 21. Re2 Ka7 22. Rfe1 Ka8 23. Bd2 Ka7 24. Bb1 Ka8 25. Kg1 Ka7 26. Kh1 Ka8 27. Kg1 Ka7 28. Bc2 Ka8 29. Bc1 Ka7 30. Bd2 Ka8 31. Bc1 Ka7 32. Kh1 Ka8 33. Bd2 Ka7 34. Nh3 Ka8 35. Nf4 Qd8 36. Bc1 Ka7 37. Bd2 Ka8 38. Bc1 Ka7 39. Kg1 Ka8 40. h3 Ka7 41. g4 Ka8 42. Qg3 Ka7 43. Re3 Ka8 44. Rf3 Qe8 45. h4 Ka7 46. Kf1 Ka8 47. Qg2 Ka7 48. Rfe3 Ka8 49. h5 Qd8 50. g5 Ka7 51. Rh3 Nce7 52. hxg6 Nxg6 53. Nh5 Ka8 54. Nf6 Nxf6 55. gxf6 h6 56. Ke2 Ka7 57. Reh1 Ka8 58. Bxg6 fxg6 59. Bxh6 Bxh6 60. Qxg6 Rbh7 61. Rxh6 Rxh6 62. Rxh6 Rxh6 63. Qxh6 Qg8 64. Qg7 Qd8 65. f7 Qh4 66. f8=Q Qe4+ 67. Kf1 Qb1+ 68. Kg2 Qe4+ 69. Kg3 Qd3+ 70. f3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

https://lichess.org/QqHuizA7/blac

wonder who will win in the fight or battle between man and machine, developed in a long-term pulse, where the constancy and perseverance of the algorithm, which is the mirror image of its human programmer, face off against the stubbornness of the human. The computer is a rock, I, alone, am a drop of water that evaporates when the sun rises to the sky...

[pgn] Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/jOQFQF88"]
[Date "2024.10.23"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.23"]
[UTCTime "21:56:50"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2030"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. f4 d5 2. c3 e6 3. Nf3 c6 4. d3 f5 5. h3 Nf6 6. g4 Be7 7. g5 Nh5 8. Kf2 g6 9. d4 O-O 10. e3 Bd7 11. c4 Be8 12. b3 Bd6 13. Bb2 Qe7 14. c5 Bc7 15. Rc1 a6 16. Be2 Rf7 17. h4 Rg7 18. b4 Qd8 19. a4 Qe7 20. Ra1 Qd8 21. Qb3 Qc8 22. Rhc1 Ra7 23. Bc3 Ra8 24. Bd2 Ra7 25. Qb2 Ra8 26. Ra3 Ra7 27. Rca1 Ra8 28. Ne1 Ra7 29. Nd3 Ra8 30. Ne1 Ra7 31. Nd3 Ra8 32. Bc3 Ra7 33. R3a2 Ra8 34. Ra3 Ra7 35. Nc1 Ra8 36. Nb3 Ra7 37. Nd2 Ra8 38. Nf3 Ra7 39. Bd2 Ra8 40. Kg2 Ra7 41. Ne1 Ra8 42. Nd3 Ra7 43. Kf3 Ra8 44. Kf2 Ra7 45. Ne1 Ra8 46. Nf3 Ra7 47. Ne1 Ra8 48. Bc3 Ra7 49. Nd3 Ra8 50. Ne1 Ra7 51. Nc2 Ra8 52. b5 Re7 53. Bd2 Rg7 54. Ne1 Re7 55. Nd3 Rg7 56. Nc1 Re7 57. Nd3 Rg7 58. Bc3 Re7 59. Ne1 Rg7 60. Nf3 Re7 61. Nd2 Rg7 62. Nb3 Re7 63. Nc1 Rg7 64. Nd3 Re7 65. Bd2 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Father]

Mr. Larry Kaufman.
This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.
I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.
If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

Thank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.

...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

In LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.

1.733 / 5.000
Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

[Father]

Mr. Larry Kaufman.
This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.
I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.
If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

Thank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.

...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

In LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.

1.733 / 5.000
Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

...The sun that gives us light and life rises to the heavens. Today I have understood that we can be better, move forward, progress and evolve as human beings. Yesterday ending the day at night I lost 6-4. Today at the beginning of the day I beat the computer 7-3. I have tamed the furious horse, now it is time to ride the cybernetic horse. Our strategic thinking makes the conquering steed tame. Man and machine heading towards the north and ideals, crossing the seven seas. My Father and Catecan will conquer the world.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/MtU1NIXV"]
[Date "2024.10.24"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]
[UTCTime "12:01:04"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. a3 c6 4. e4 dxc4 5. dxc4 e5 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. h3 a5 8. Be3 b6 9. Nf3 Nbd7 10. Rd1 Qc7 11. g4 h6 12. Rg1 Be7 13. Bd3 Ba6 14. b3 Bxa3 15. Ke2 Bc5 16. Bd2 Bb4 17. Ke3 Rd8 18. Bc2 Nc5 19. Ne2 Rxd2 20. Nxd2 Ke7 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Rxd8 Qxd8 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Bb1 g5 25. Ng3 Kf8 26. h4 Nxg4+ 27. Ke2 f6 28. hxg5 hxg5 29. Rh1 Kg8 30. Nh5 Qf7 31. Kf1 Ne6 32. Bd3 Nf4 33. Nxf4 exf4 34. e5 Nxe5 35. Nxe5 fxe5 36. Bh7+ Qxh7 37. Rxh7 Kxh7 38. Ke2 Kg6 39. Kd3 Kf6 40. Ke4 Bb7 41. c5 Bxc5 42. b4 axb4 43. Kd3 Ba6+ 44. Kc2 g4 45. Kb3 e4 46. Kc2 Bb5 47. Kb3 Ke5 48. Kc2 Bxf2 49. Kb3 Bc5 50. Kc2 e3 51. Kb2 f3 52. Kc2 g3 53. Kb2 Kf4 54. Kc2 Bd4 55. Kb3 c5 56. Ka2 Bc4+ 57. Kb1 b5 58. Kc2 b3+ 59. Kb1 e2 60. Kc1 Ke3 61. Kb1 f2 62. Kc1 g2 63. Kb1 e1=N 64. Kc1 f1=N 65. Kb1 g1=N 66. Kc1 b2+ 67. Kb1 Bd3+ 68. Ka2 b1=Q+ 69. Ka3 b4+ 70. Ka4 b3 71. Ka5 b2 72. Kb6 c4+ 73. Kc6 c3 74. Kd7 c2 75. Ke7 c1=N 76. Kd7 Qa1 77. Ke7 b1=N 78. Kf7 Qa7+ 79. Kf8 Bc5+ 80. Kg8 Bc4+ 81. Kh8 Bd4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

[lkaufman]

Mr. Larry Kaufman.
This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.
I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.
If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

Thank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.

...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

In LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.

1.733 / 5.000
Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

...The sun that gives us light and life rises to the heavens. Today I have understood that we can be better, move forward, progress and evolve as human beings. Yesterday ending the day at night I lost 6-4. Today at the beginning of the day I beat the computer 7-3. I have tamed the furious horse, now it is time to ride the cybernetic horse. Our strategic thinking makes the conquering steed tame. Man and machine heading towards the north and ideals, crossing the seven seas. My Father and Catecan will conquer the world.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/MtU1NIXV"]
[Date "2024.10.24"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]
[UTCTime "12:01:04"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. a3 c6 4. e4 dxc4 5. dxc4 e5 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. h3 a5 8. Be3 b6 9. Nf3 Nbd7 10. Rd1 Qc7 11. g4 h6 12. Rg1 Be7 13. Bd3 Ba6 14. b3 Bxa3 15. Ke2 Bc5 16. Bd2 Bb4 17. Ke3 Rd8 18. Bc2 Nc5 19. Ne2 Rxd2 20. Nxd2 Ke7 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Rxd8 Qxd8 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Bb1 g5 25. Ng3 Kf8 26. h4 Nxg4+ 27. Ke2 f6 28. hxg5 hxg5 29. Rh1 Kg8 30. Nh5 Qf7 31. Kf1 Ne6 32. Bd3 Nf4 33. Nxf4 exf4 34. e5 Nxe5 35. Nxe5 fxe5 36. Bh7+ Qxh7 37. Rxh7 Kxh7 38. Ke2 Kg6 39. Kd3 Kf6 40. Ke4 Bb7 41. c5 Bxc5 42. b4 axb4 43. Kd3 Ba6+ 44. Kc2 g4 45. Kb3 e4 46. Kc2 Bb5 47. Kb3 Ke5 48. Kc2 Bxf2 49. Kb3 Bc5 50. Kc2 e3 51. Kb2 f3 52. Kc2 g3 53. Kb2 Kf4 54. Kc2 Bd4 55. Kb3 c5 56. Ka2 Bc4+ 57. Kb1 b5 58. Kc2 b3+ 59. Kb1 e2 60. Kc1 Ke3 61. Kb1 f2 62. Kc1 g2 63. Kb1 e1=N 64. Kc1 f1=N 65. Kb1 g1=N 66. Kc1 b2+ 67. Kb1 Bd3+ 68. Ka2 b1=Q+ 69. Ka3 b4+ 70. Ka4 b3 71. Ka5 b2 72. Kb6 c4+ 73. Kc6 c3 74. Kd7 c2 75. Ke7 c1=N 76. Kd7 Qa1 77. Ke7 b1=N 78. Kf7 Qa7+ 79. Kf8 Bc5+ 80. Kg8 Bc4+ 81. Kh8 Bd4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

Note that right now, only the knight odds bot is specifically trained for odds, but it is likely that the other bots will be updated very soon to use the net trained for knight odds, as it seems to be stronger than the normal version even at larger odds. So once the switch is made, expect it to get even harder to win at queen odds!

[Father]

Mr. Larry Kaufman.
This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.
I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.
If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

Thank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.

...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

In LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.

1.733 / 5.000
Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

...The sun that gives us light and life rises to the heavens. Today I have understood that we can be better, move forward, progress and evolve as human beings. Yesterday ending the day at night I lost 6-4. Today at the beginning of the day I beat the computer 7-3. I have tamed the furious horse, now it is time to ride the cybernetic horse. Our strategic thinking makes the conquering steed tame. Man and machine heading towards the north and ideals, crossing the seven seas. My Father and Catecan will conquer the world.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/MtU1NIXV"]
[Date "2024.10.24"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]
[UTCTime "12:01:04"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. a3 c6 4. e4 dxc4 5. dxc4 e5 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. h3 a5 8. Be3 b6 9. Nf3 Nbd7 10. Rd1 Qc7 11. g4 h6 12. Rg1 Be7 13. Bd3 Ba6 14. b3 Bxa3 15. Ke2 Bc5 16. Bd2 Bb4 17. Ke3 Rd8 18. Bc2 Nc5 19. Ne2 Rxd2 20. Nxd2 Ke7 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Rxd8 Qxd8 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Bb1 g5 25. Ng3 Kf8 26. h4 Nxg4+ 27. Ke2 f6 28. hxg5 hxg5 29. Rh1 Kg8 30. Nh5 Qf7 31. Kf1 Ne6 32. Bd3 Nf4 33. Nxf4 exf4 34. e5 Nxe5 35. Nxe5 fxe5 36. Bh7+ Qxh7 37. Rxh7 Kxh7 38. Ke2 Kg6 39. Kd3 Kf6 40. Ke4 Bb7 41. c5 Bxc5 42. b4 axb4 43. Kd3 Ba6+ 44. Kc2 g4 45. Kb3 e4 46. Kc2 Bb5 47. Kb3 Ke5 48. Kc2 Bxf2 49. Kb3 Bc5 50. Kc2 e3 51. Kb2 f3 52. Kc2 g3 53. Kb2 Kf4 54. Kc2 Bd4 55. Kb3 c5 56. Ka2 Bc4+ 57. Kb1 b5 58. Kc2 b3+ 59. Kb1 e2 60. Kc1 Ke3 61. Kb1 f2 62. Kc1 g2 63. Kb1 e1=N 64. Kc1 f1=N 65. Kb1 g1=N 66. Kc1 b2+ 67. Kb1 Bd3+ 68. Ka2 b1=Q+ 69. Ka3 b4+ 70. Ka4 b3 71. Ka5 b2 72. Kb6 c4+ 73. Kc6 c3 74. Kd7 c2 75. Ke7 c1=N 76. Kd7 Qa1 77. Ke7 b1=N 78. Kf7 Qa7+ 79. Kf8 Bc5+ 80. Kg8 Bc4+ 81. Kh8 Bd4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

Note that right now, only the knight odds bot is specifically trained for odds, but it is likely that the other bots will be updated very soon to use the net trained for knight odds, as it seems to be stronger than the normal version even at larger odds. So once the switch is made, expect it to get even harder to win at queen odds!

Thank you, Mr. Larry Kaufman. Once again I would like to give an opinion:
The superiority of chess computers is more than evident. Thus, and as a consequence of such superiority of the machine, the human being repeatedly hits a rock. Therefore, a good menu of odds, acts as a good table, where each diner chooses the dinner. Just as an example, for now and up to now, in time controls of 3 minutes per game, I perceive myself as superior to the oddsqueen. But it requires me to be very alert. The best thing ... this odds allows me to savor the food, which is not feasible when eating the entire plate without odds. Likewise, each player will be able to choose dinner and dessert according to his own strength, state of health, and size of stomach. Even observing some games, I was able to observe a game in which an international master lost a battle with an extra queen and the computer without the queen.

[Father]

Mr. Larry Kaufman.
This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.
I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.
If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

Thank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.

...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

In LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.

1.733 / 5.000
Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

...The sun that gives us light and life rises to the heavens. Today I have understood that we can be better, move forward, progress and evolve as human beings. Yesterday ending the day at night I lost 6-4. Today at the beginning of the day I beat the computer 7-3. I have tamed the furious horse, now it is time to ride the cybernetic horse. Our strategic thinking makes the conquering steed tame. Man and machine heading towards the north and ideals, crossing the seven seas. My Father and Catecan will conquer the world.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/MtU1NIXV"]
[Date "2024.10.24"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]
[UTCTime "12:01:04"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. a3 c6 4. e4 dxc4 5. dxc4 e5 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. h3 a5 8. Be3 b6 9. Nf3 Nbd7 10. Rd1 Qc7 11. g4 h6 12. Rg1 Be7 13. Bd3 Ba6 14. b3 Bxa3 15. Ke2 Bc5 16. Bd2 Bb4 17. Ke3 Rd8 18. Bc2 Nc5 19. Ne2 Rxd2 20. Nxd2 Ke7 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Rxd8 Qxd8 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Bb1 g5 25. Ng3 Kf8 26. h4 Nxg4+ 27. Ke2 f6 28. hxg5 hxg5 29. Rh1 Kg8 30. Nh5 Qf7 31. Kf1 Ne6 32. Bd3 Nf4 33. Nxf4 exf4 34. e5 Nxe5 35. Nxe5 fxe5 36. Bh7+ Qxh7 37. Rxh7 Kxh7 38. Ke2 Kg6 39. Kd3 Kf6 40. Ke4 Bb7 41. c5 Bxc5 42. b4 axb4 43. Kd3 Ba6+ 44. Kc2 g4 45. Kb3 e4 46. Kc2 Bb5 47. Kb3 Ke5 48. Kc2 Bxf2 49. Kb3 Bc5 50. Kc2 e3 51. Kb2 f3 52. Kc2 g3 53. Kb2 Kf4 54. Kc2 Bd4 55. Kb3 c5 56. Ka2 Bc4+ 57. Kb1 b5 58. Kc2 b3+ 59. Kb1 e2 60. Kc1 Ke3 61. Kb1 f2 62. Kc1 g2 63. Kb1 e1=N 64. Kc1 f1=N 65. Kb1 g1=N 66. Kc1 b2+ 67. Kb1 Bd3+ 68. Ka2 b1=Q+ 69. Ka3 b4+ 70. Ka4 b3 71. Ka5 b2 72. Kb6 c4+ 73. Kc6 c3 74. Kd7 c2 75. Ke7 c1=N 76. Kd7 Qa1 77. Ke7 b1=N 78. Kf7 Qa7+ 79. Kf8 Bc5+ 80. Kg8 Bc4+ 81. Kh8 Bd4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

Note that right now, only the knight odds bot is specifically trained for odds, but it is likely that the other bots will be updated very soon to use the net trained for knight odds, as it seems to be stronger than the normal version even at larger odds. So once the switch is made, expect it to get even harder to win at queen odds!

... A question. Let's imagine an open tournament with about 200 participants. One of the 200 players is leelaOddsQueen. In the imaginary scenario, there are 5 grandmasters, 10 international masters, 30 top-class players, and 155 players of all kinds; The time control, 3 minutes per game, and 8 hours straight in the masnau. I wonder? Where in the table would OddsQueen probably be? Probable Elo? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman ...

[Father]

Mr. Larry Kaufman.
This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.
I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.
If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

Thank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.

...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.

In LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.

1.733 / 5.000
Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

...The sun that gives us light and life rises to the heavens. Today I have understood that we can be better, move forward, progress and evolve as human beings. Yesterday ending the day at night I lost 6-4. Today at the beginning of the day I beat the computer 7-3. I have tamed the furious horse, now it is time to ride the cybernetic horse. Our strategic thinking makes the conquering steed tame. Man and machine heading towards the north and ideals, crossing the seven seas. My Father and Catecan will conquer the world.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/MtU1NIXV"]
[Date "2024.10.24"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "0-1"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]
[UTCTime "12:01:04"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. a3 c6 4. e4 dxc4 5. dxc4 e5 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. h3 a5 8. Be3 b6 9. Nf3 Nbd7 10. Rd1 Qc7 11. g4 h6 12. Rg1 Be7 13. Bd3 Ba6 14. b3 Bxa3 15. Ke2 Bc5 16. Bd2 Bb4 17. Ke3 Rd8 18. Bc2 Nc5 19. Ne2 Rxd2 20. Nxd2 Ke7 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Rxd8 Qxd8 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Bb1 g5 25. Ng3 Kf8 26. h4 Nxg4+ 27. Ke2 f6 28. hxg5 hxg5 29. Rh1 Kg8 30. Nh5 Qf7 31. Kf1 Ne6 32. Bd3 Nf4 33. Nxf4 exf4 34. e5 Nxe5 35. Nxe5 fxe5 36. Bh7+ Qxh7 37. Rxh7 Kxh7 38. Ke2 Kg6 39. Kd3 Kf6 40. Ke4 Bb7 41. c5 Bxc5 42. b4 axb4 43. Kd3 Ba6+ 44. Kc2 g4 45. Kb3 e4 46. Kc2 Bb5 47. Kb3 Ke5 48. Kc2 Bxf2 49. Kb3 Bc5 50. Kc2 e3 51. Kb2 f3 52. Kc2 g3 53. Kb2 Kf4 54. Kc2 Bd4 55. Kb3 c5 56. Ka2 Bc4+ 57. Kb1 b5 58. Kc2 b3+ 59. Kb1 e2 60. Kc1 Ke3 61. Kb1 f2 62. Kc1 g2 63. Kb1 e1=N 64. Kc1 f1=N 65. Kb1 g1=N 66. Kc1 b2+ 67. Kb1 Bd3+ 68. Ka2 b1=Q+ 69. Ka3 b4+ 70. Ka4 b3 71. Ka5 b2 72. Kb6 c4+ 73. Kc6 c3 74. Kd7 c2 75. Ke7 c1=N 76. Kd7 Qa1 77. Ke7 b1=N 78. Kf7 Qa7+ 79. Kf8 Bc5+ 80. Kg8 Bc4+ 81. Kh8 Bd4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

Note that right now, only the knight odds bot is specifically trained for odds, but it is likely that the other bots will be updated very soon to use the net trained for knight odds, as it seems to be stronger than the normal version even at larger odds. So once the switch is made, expect it to get even harder to win at queen odds!

... A question. Let's imagine an open tournament with about 200 participants. One of the 200 players is leelaOddsQueen. In the imaginary scenario, there are 5 grandmasters, 10 international masters, 30 top-class players, and 155 players of all kinds; The time control, 3 minutes per game, and 8 hours straight in the masnau. I wonder? Where in the table would OddsQueen probably be? Probable Elo? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman ...

[Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/KorV9oRr"]
[Date "2024.10.24"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]
[UTCTime "17:49:35"]
[WhiteElo "2030"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. f4 c5 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. c3 e5 6. fxe5 Ne4 7. Bd3 f5 8. exf6 Nxf6 9. Qc2 Bd6 10. O-O Bc7 11. e4 dxe4 12. Bxe4 O-O 13. Bxc6 bxc6 14. dxc5 Ba6 15. Re1 Rae8 16. Nbd2 Rxe1+ 17. Nxe1 g5 18. h3 g4 19. hxg4 Nxg4 20. Nef3 Rd8 21. Nf1 Rf8 22. Bg5 Ne5 23. Nxe5 Bxe5 24. Be3 Bxf1 25. Rxf1 Bh2+ 26. Kxh2 Rxf1 27. Bf2 Rxf2 28. Qxf2 Kg7 29. Qf5 a5 30. Qe6 a4 31. Qxc6 a3 32. b4 Kf7 33. Qa4 Ke6 34. Qxa3 Ke5 35. Qb3 h5 36. c4 h4 37. a4 h3 38. Kxh3 Ke4 39. b5 Kf5 40. Qb4 Ke4 41. c6 Kd3 42. c5 Ke3 43. b6 Kd3 44. a5 Ke3 45. a6 Kd3 46. c7 Ke3 47. c6 Ke2 48. Qb5+ Ke3 49. b7 Kd2 50. a7 Ke3 51. c8=Q Kd2 52. c7 Ke3 53. Qce8+ Kd2 54. Qd5+ Kc3 55. c8=Q+ Kb2 56. b8=Q+ Ka1 57. a8=Q# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0