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Re: A Letter To CCRL Members

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Uri Blass wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:54 am (…) The main problem is the author's behaviour (…)
Simple sentence and synthesize what LazySMP is.

I apologize moderators, but LazySMP, this guy or persona or entity is hopeless. He has irritated almost every single member of this community.

Chess computer should be fun here and the limit of toleration has been overpassed several times. I think this community has been more than collaborative with him.

My concerning regards.
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Re: A Letter To CCRL Members

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supernova wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:12 am I think this community has been more than collaborative with him.

My concerning regards.
I'm not sure so about that. Several people have been outright hostile towards him. There are faults on both "sides".
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Re: Testing LazySMP

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Back to the topic... testing LazySMP (the program, not the nicknamed :) ).
It keeps deceptively failing to complete a lot of games (around 50%). Hangs at a couple of moves from the end. I strongly suspect pondering is bugged.
Author, please do us a favor: if fixing a (some) bug(s), please increase a release number, not a version number. Otherwise please comment the relevant changes deserving a new version number.
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Re: Testing LazySMP

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Tibono wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:46 am Back to the topic... testing LazySMP (the program, not the nicknamed :) ).
It keeps deceptively failing to complete a lot of games (around 50%). Hangs at a couple of moves from the end. I strongly suspect pondering is bugged.
Author, please do us a favor: if fixing a (some) bug(s), please increase a release number, not a version number. Otherwise please comment the relevant changes deserving a new version number.
Regards,
Eric
For my game time (TC=4'+2") the engine is stable. I noticed only one problem: if it exceeds 125 moves (over 250 ply in game economy) it goes into time forfeit. But it is a common fault of many engines in this class (see my pictures). Otherwise the engine is OK (no crashes in my tournament). Version 5 seems to be around 2100 Elo. I removed version 4 from the tournament (weak).

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Re: Testing LazySMP

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Sylwy wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:39 am For my game time (TC=4'+2") the engine is stable.
Hi Sylvian,
thanks;
please do you set 'ponder on' for your tournaments? It really makes a difference with regards to v5 stability (evidence is in the logs I shared in this post).
Of course it doesn't happen if the opponent resigns soon enough. I did not notice the same issue when using v3; thus maybe a regression.
All the best,
Eric
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Re: Testing LazySMP

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Tibono wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:41 pm
Sylwy wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:39 am For my game time (TC=4'+2") the engine is stable.
Hi Sylvian,
thanks;
please do you set 'ponder on' for your tournaments? It really makes a difference with regards to v5 stability (evidence is in the logs I shared in this post).
Of course it doesn't happen if the opponent resigns soon enough. I did not notice the same issue when using v3; thus maybe a regression.
All the best,
Eric
Hi,
All my tournaments/matches are with ponder=off (except for some rare engines that don't accept the command - Relax Chess is just an example).
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Re: A Letter To CCRL Members

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supernova wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:12 am I apologize moderators, but LazySMP, this guy or persona or entity is hopeless.
I spent a thousand hours, In wait of dreams I could not find. I walked a thousand empty roads, In search of way to test my engine.
Modern Times wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:19 am Several people have been outright hostile towards him.
Really surprising. Instead of trying to develop their own engine, they tried to destroy mine. In the end, they succeeded :|
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Re: A Letter To CCRL Members

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LazySMP wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:51 am
Modern Times wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:19 am Several people have been outright hostile towards him.
Really surprising. Instead of trying to develop their own engine, they tried to destroy mine. In the end, they succeeded :|
I don't understand this. You said such things a few times (you will quit developing your engine, etc.). Why such pessimism? Here is my sincere advice. First of all, you should develop your engine for yourself, for your own enjoyment, learning, etc. How can THEY destroy your engine? Is getting listed on CCRL or CEGT the greatest reward or the only reward that you dream of? There are already people here who are testing your engine, giving you feedback, so why not ignore other entities? Moreover, mods have not banned you just because of pressure from other entities. From what I read, it seems your engine is already quite stable and performs at 2000-2100 rating. I am sure the CCRL people follow the discussion and test results of the engine here, so one day if it appears to be getting strong enough, with bugs ironed out, they will definitely pick up your engine. I also see some others running engine competitions, so you could consider one day entering your engine in one such competition. So I see many positives here. You should ignore the negativity from some others, decide your own goals with the engine, and keep working towards them.
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Re: A Letter To CCRL Members

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chesskobra wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:47 am Why such pessimism? How can THEY destroy your engine?
As Graham said, those comments were deleted. I was under DDoS attack from SF members.
hgm wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:39 pm I deleted some postings that were making unmotivated accusations for seemingly no reason at all. Note that libelous personal attacks are a charter violation, and those persisting in it will be banned.
But some comments are still left, which you can see in the kindergarten section. viewtopic.php?t=84382
chesskobra wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:47 am Is getting listed on CCRL or CEGT the greatest reward or the only reward that you dream of?
Yes, it is my only dream. I spent a thousand hours, In wait of dreams I could not find.
chesskobra wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:47 am I am sure the CCRL people follow the discussion and test results of the engine here, so one day if it appears to be getting strong enough, with bugs ironed out, they will definitely pick up your engine.
No, This never happens. And if CCRL people want to test my engine, others won't let them test it.
chesskobra wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:47 am You should ignore the negativity from some others, decide your own goals with the engine, and keep working towards them.
I think of the past as destroyed time, and it was really probably the most emotionally destroying time of my life.