Chess System Tal 3 released

[Eelco de Groot]

I must not understand the question sorry, Lonnie, it sounds like a bug in Fritz 21? Chessbase says, in the help pages

UCI engines can be used wherever they are, in any folder or any disk on the computer. The configuration files with the extension *.uci are always saved in the folder /Documents and Settings/Username/Application Data/ChessBase/Engines.UCI.

There should be a .UCI file for Chess-Tal-3.0 there. The very first UCI option is the hash setting There is an enormous number of options so the option screens may not display all of them. In the command line if you type UCI + Enter you get to see all the options but I do not know how Chessbase saves the options other than what the Help pages say. Some Chess base buffs here?

[peter]

As you write, Eelco, in .uci- file all to be stored UCI- options, that are shown in corresponding dialog (entry- mask), are (re-) loaded in cb- GUIs, no problem from my side with CST3 neither, (tried only Threads and Book- options) . Hash is an option, that's to be set extra at loading of any cb- engine, if you don't change it, the amount that was set with one but latest loaded engine is set again, as was written already here before. Arena e.g. loads hash- setting with .config, cb doesn't, regards

[chrisw]

Chris, can you tell us estimated Elo difference, between now and previous versions?

Not enough, which is why its now frozen and subjected to open heart surgery to become CSTal4. Maybe, one day.

[Rebel]

Chris, can you tell us estimated Elo difference, between now and previous versions?

I got +75 elo against cst2 (10.000 games) and +75 elo against a pool of 10 engines (15.000 games).

[peter]

UCI- option of book- setting is broken.
In Fritz, Shredder and Arena only files with name book.bin are used, if there is such in directory polyglot-books, it's used, no matter, what you set as name and path in UCI- option, no matter if Bookdepth is set to 0 or higher. If you want no book to be used, you have to change the name of the file in the directory. UCI- option of book isn't to be seen in Fritz nor in Shredder (just too many of them for the mask) in Arena and Myracle it is.
P.S. Could somebody please repair the login to the forum? Have to repeat it always again and again, after already having written some text, when I click submit, it's gone again, if I haven't copied before, and about each second time I have to renew browser- cache to get my password accepted, that's annoying

[reflectionofpower]

Now I don't see hash size on ANY engine I have when using engine management. This last update busted something!

[Morphy Elap]

May I know how it performs in EAS? Besides, is this version the most closest to Mikhail Tal? By any chance, can make other variations for morphy or Anderssen or other romantic era masters? Thank you very much.

[mclane]

May I know how it performs in EAS? Besides, is this version the most closest to Mikhail Tal? By any chance, can make other variations for morphy or Anderssen or other romantic era masters? Thank you very much.

This question is solved:

https://playchessgate.com/

[Morphy Elap]

May I know how it performs in EAS? Besides, is this version the most closest to Mikhail Tal? By any chance, can make other variations for morphy or Anderssen or other romantic era masters? Thank you very much.

This question is solved:

https://playchessgate.com/

Sorry to have opposite stance with you, indeed it tried to immetitate the player with opening books and style like attack, positional through selection of multiPV, but it failed to understand the core principles of that player and doesn’t know how much chance that player prefers on that move and what does that person think about the position. Also playchessgate engine just never make simple cleaners, but even top level player might occasionally make the slightest error by overlooking smth, a random blunder made by engine will not make sense. Instead I actually trained networks of the romantic era masters from their games based on Nova chess ai (trained on human games with styles) (a policy head), to predict the player’s move according to the chess knowledge and style of the players base on its games (so that have same style even the player has not met that position). The only problem is that the strength is only roughly 2700 blitz, but in classical match, it performs like 2000 cause it doesn’t even calculate and just pretends to be a human. Therefore, I trained a value head with PUCT search just like Lc0 for Morphy personality and now other in progress. In my own developing app, I can now just learn from those players’ moves. The only problem is it doesn’t have the tactical ability of chess system tal especially extreme. So my lines prepared by my bots will just be a positional concept but with lack of calculated sacrifices. I hope to have a personalized personality mixed with chess system tal to create a unique personality with huge search and knowledge base, but not only sorting those top moves.

[Ipmanchess]

Well done could enter main-list:

Chess-System-Tal 3.00 avx2 added to R9 list: https://ipmanchess.yolasite.com/r9-7945hx.php

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Ipman.