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beram
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by beram » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:59 pm
Houdini wrote: beram wrote: Wow 0,51 after 9 moves for Houdini
So it has a 80% chance for winning this game, according to what Robert mentioned.
Where did you see that?
80% is for a +1.0 advantage against an equal opponent at blitz TC.
Robert
Sorry en excuus, bad memory of mine
Lavir
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by Lavir » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:04 pm
Well, anyway now it is at +0.70 so something maybe is indeed there.
EDIT: +1.01 according to the pondering if 17 ...fxe4, wow!!! Fire on board (in Shirov's docet)
Jouni
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by Jouni » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:21 pm
Yes 1 - 0 for sure. I have feeling, that H3 1CPU will be enough for this Cluster
Somebody has really paid for use Rybka Cluster!?
Jouni
Houdini
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by Houdini » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:23 pm
16.Qc3! appeared to be a very good unexpected move.
The Rybka eval dropped by 0.3.
When Houdini starts sacking pawns, all is well
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Lavir
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by Lavir » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:26 pm
LOL.
That's so true
Houdini
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by Houdini » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:46 pm
26.Qd5+ is another unexpected move (instead of Bd3), Houdini gives +1.46.
[d]2r2r2/5kpp/p1n5/1p1Qpq2/8/5P2/PPP4P/1K1R1B1R b - - 0 26
Lavir
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by Lavir » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:47 pm
Houdini +1.70, Rybka Clu +0.80 (for the cluster Qd5 was a worse move than Bd3).
Who will be right?
We accept bets.
EDIT: Obviously Rybka was wrong.
Lavir
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by Lavir » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:56 pm
Or there will be a miracle or this will be another loss for the Cluster (RIP).
Houdini played very very well.
Houdini
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by Houdini » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:03 pm
The current position after 31.h5 g5.
[d]5r2/3r3p/p1n1qk2/1p2p1pP/4Q3/P2B1P2/1PP5/1K1R3R w - - 0 31
+1.80 according to Houdini, +1.60 according to Rybka.
In the main line Black doesn't lose any material for at least 10 moves (20 plies), it's really incredible that both evaluations favor White so much.
Lavir
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by Lavir » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:12 pm
Yet another time, this game has shown that the Rybka Cluster evaluation is always one step back from the one of Houdini.
Simply speaking Houdini sees things much earlier than Rybka can, and it even sees things that Rybka cannot either grasp (and "catch" only later).