Hi friends,
It is said, that this 8 tactic book may contain ~2,000 basic tactics patterns:
1. Chess Tactics for students - John Bain
2. Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess - Bobby Fischer/Margulies
3. Starting out: Chess Tactics and Checkmates - Chris Ward
4. Winning Chess Strategy for Kids - Jeff Coakley
5. The Chess Tactics Workbook - Al Woolum
6. Back to Basic: Tactics - Dan Heisman
7. The Winning Way - Bruce Pandolfini
8. Power Chess for Kids - Hertan
Do you have the pgn of one of this books?
Thanks Peter
Tactic pgn
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Re: Tactic pgn
I have 1. Chess Tactics for students - John Bain, and several books by those other authors, but this is the only one where the author and book match correctly.
Unfortunately, there are some problems. I have the very old copy of the book and there are likely bugs in 29 of the problems. I guess that in the latest edition of the book the problems are fixed.
In addition, I don't have the old reasoning from the book in my database, I only have my own analysis which could be flawed.
Furthermore, some of the problems are missing.
Finally, I used my own numbering system, so my problem numbers will not match. The only way to correlate them is by the EPD position.
Here are the problematic ones:
Maybe someone has the current copy of the book and see if some of these have been fixed, or if there was something wrong with my analysis.
Here is the analysis that I have:
Perhaps this tangled mess can be made better as a gift to PeterO by the CCC faithful.
Unfortunately, there are some problems. I have the very old copy of the book and there are likely bugs in 29 of the problems. I guess that in the latest edition of the book the problems are fixed.
In addition, I don't have the old reasoning from the book in my database, I only have my own analysis which could be flawed.
Furthermore, some of the problems are missing.
Finally, I used my own numbering system, so my problem numbers will not match. The only way to correlate them is by the EPD position.
Here are the problematic ones:
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4k3/3q2p1/8/3N4/6N1/8/8/1KR5 w - - acd 70; bm Ndf6+; ce 32734; book_answer: Ngf6+; dm 17; pm Ndf6+; pv Ndf6+ gxf6 Nxf6+ Ke7 Nxd7 Kxd7 Re1 Kd6 Kc2 Kc5 Rd1 Kb4 Rd4+ Kb5 Kb3 Kc5 Kc3 Kb5 Rc4 Ka5 Rb4 Ka6 Kc4 Ka7 Kc5 Ka6 Kc6 Ka7 Rb2 Ka8 Kc7 Ka7 Ra2+;
5rk1/8/8/1n6/4n3/8/1P2Q3/3K4 b - - acd 43; bm Nec3+; ce 32734; book_answer: Nec3+; dm 17; pm Nec3+; pv Nec3+ bxc3;
r4r1k/4N2p/4n1p1/4Pp2/1p1P1PP1/1q5P/p5R1/3R1QK1 b - - acd 41; bm Nxf4; ce 32728; book_answer: Qxd1; dm 20; pm Nxf4; pv Nxf4 Ra1 fxg4 Qc1 gxh3 Nxg6+ hxg6 Rb2 Qg3+ Kh1 Nd3 Qg1 Qf3+ Kh2 Nxb2 Qg5 Qe2+ Kg1 h2+ Kh1 Rf1+ Rxf1 Qxf1+ Kxh2 Qe2+ Qg2 Qxg2+ Kxg2 a1=Q e6 Qe1 e7 Qe2+ Kg3 Ra3+ Kf4 Qe3+ Kg4 Qg3+;
8/7k/6pp/3p1p2/3PbPPQ/2p3KP/2P2B2/1rb5 b - - acd 53; bm g5; ce 32716; book_answer: Bxf4+; dm 26; pm g5; pv g5 fxg5 Bxg5 gxf5 Bxh4+ Kxh4 Rf1 Kg3 Rxf2 Kxf2 Bxf5 Ke3 Bxc2 Ke2 Bf5 h4 c2 Kd2 Kg6 Kc1 Kh5 Kb2 c1Q+ Kxc1 Kxh4;
5k2/p1q2p1p/2Pr2p1/4Q3/P7/6P1/5P1P/2R3K1 w - - acd 63; bm Re1; ce 32706; book_answer: Qxd6+; dm 31; pm Re1; pv Re1 Kg8 Qe8+ Kg7 Re7 Qxe7 Qxe7 Rxc6 Qxa7 h5 a5 Kh6 Qa8 Re6 Qf8+ Kg5 Qxf7 Rf6 Qxf6+ Kxf6 a6 Ke5 a7 Kd4 a8Q h4 gxh4;
8/2R2Bk1/p1nr3p/1p2p2K/4P2P/1P2P3/8/8 w - - acd 39; bm Bd5+; ce 1347; book_answer: Be8+; pm Bd5+; pv Bd5+ Kf8 Rxc6 Rd7 Rxh6 Kg7 Rxa6 Kh7 Kg5 Rg7+ Kf5 b4 Kxe5 Rd7 Kd4 Rc7 e5 Kg7 Ra8 Kg6 e6 Kf5 Rf8+ Kg4 Ke5 Rc3 Kd6 Rxe3 e7 Rg3 e8Q Kh3 Qe6+ Rg4 Rf3+ Kh2 Qe2+ Rg2 Qe5+ Rg3 Qxg3+ Kh1;
4qr2/1p4pk/pn5p/2p4N/P5P1/2PR3P/1P6/1K4Q1 b - - acd 44; bm Qe4; ce 950; book_answer: Qg6; pm Qe4; pv Qe4 Qc1 Qxd3+ Ka2 Rf1 Nf4 Qc4+ b3 Rf2+ Ka3 Qxf4 Qxf4 Rxf4 b4 Nc4+ Kb3 cxb4 cxb4 Kg6 Kc2 Ne5 Kc3 Kf6 a5 Ke6 Kb3 Rf3+ Kb2 Rxh3 b5 Rg3 bxa6 bxa6 Kc2;
7k/3R4/7b/4pB2/2pnN3/6PK/7P/1r6 w - - acd 42; bm Nf6; ce 821; book_answer: Nf6; pm Nf6; pv Nf6 Bg7 Rd8+ Bf8 Bxb1 Kg7 Ng4 Kg8 Rd7 Bg7 Ba2 Kf8 Bxc4 e4 Rf7+ Kg8 Rf4+ Kh7 Rxe4 Nc6 Re8 Nb4 Kh4 Bc3 Re6 Kg7 Ne3 Kf8 Nf5 Nc2 Rc6 Ke8 Bb5 Bh8 Rxc2+ Kd8 Kg5 Ba1 h4;
Qn3rk1/p1pq1ppp/6b1/4p1n1/2P5/P3P1P1/1P3P1P/RNB2RK1 b - - acd 40; bm Nc6; ce 796; book_answer: Be4; pm Nc6; pv Nc6 Qxf8+ Kxf8 Nc3 Bd3 f4 Bxf1 Kxf1 Qh3+ Ke1 Nf3+ Kf2 Nxh2 Ke2 Qxg3 Kd1 exf4 Kc2 fxe3 Kb3 e2 Bf4 Qxf4 Nxe2 Qe3+ Nc3 g5 Rh1 Qf4 Rd1 Nf3 Nd5 Nd2+ Rxd2 Qxd2 Nf6 Qe2 Nxh7+ Kg7 Nxg5;
r4rk1/3q1ppp/8/1pp5/p3R2Q/2P4P/1PB3P1/1K6 w - - acd 41; bm Rd4; ce 745; book_answer: Re7; pm Rd4; pv Rd4 Qf5 Bxf5 h6 Rd7 a3 bxa3 Rae8 Bd3 Re6 Bxb5 Rf6 a4 Rb8 Ka2 Re8 Rxf7 Kxf7 Qh5+ g6 Bxe8+ Kxe8 Qxc5 Kf7 a5 g5 Qb5 Kg6 a6 Rf7 Qd3+ Kg7 Qd6 Kh7 g4 Kg8 Qg6+ Rg7 Qe8+ Kh7;
rnb1k2r/1pp2pp1/p1q4p/8/8/2N5/PPP1BPPP/R2QR1K1 w kq - acd 43; bm Bb5+; ce 736; book_answer: Bb5+; pm Bb5+; pv Bb5+ Be6 Rxe6+ fxe6 Bxc6+ Nxc6 Qh5+ Kd7 Qf7+ Kc8 Qxg7 Re8 Qg6 Rf8 Qxe6+ Kb8 Rd1 Ka7 Qe3+ Kb8 Nd5 Rd8 g4 a5 c4 Ra6 Qf4 Ka7 Qxc7 h5 gxh5 a4 Qg3 Ra5 Qe3+ Kb8 Kg2;
r1b3nr/ppp1kppp/q7/8/3pN3/8/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w - - acd 45; bm Qxd4; ce 726; book_answer: Nc5+; pm Qxd4; pv Qxd4 Nf6 Nxf6+ Be6 Nd5+ Kf8 Nxc7 Qb6 Qxb6 axb6 Nxa8 g5 Nc7 Ke7 b3 h5 Rad1 h4 c4 Rg8 Re3 Kf6 Kf1 g4 Nxe6 fxe6 a4 Kf5 h3 g3 fxg3 hxg3 Rde1 Kf6 Rxe6+ Kg5 R1e2 b5 h4+ Kh5 R6e5+ Kxh4 axb5 Rg4;
8/r4ppk/4p2p/8/p5R1/Pq3N1P/1P1Q1PP1/6K1 w - - acd 39; bm Qd4; ce 664; book_answer: Rxg7+; pm Qd4; pv Qd4 f5 Qxa7 fxg4 hxg4 Qxb2 Qxa4 Qb1+ Kh2 Qb7 Nd2 Qc7+ g3 Qc1 Nf3 Qb2 Qe4+ Kh8 Qe3 Qc2 Ne5 Qb1 a4 Qb7 Qd4 Kh7 Qc4 Qa8 Qc6 Qxc6 Nxc6 h5 gxh5 Kh6 a5 Kxh5 a6;
7k/3b1p2/prpB2p1/4p2p/4P3/1PPR4/1K5P/8 w - - acd 42; bm Bxe5+; ce 577; book_answer: Bc7; pm Bxe5+; pv Bxe5+ Kg8 Rxd7 g5 Rd6 Kh7 Bd4 Rb8 Rxc6 a5 Rf6 h4 Kc2 Rf8 Be3 Re8 Bxg5 h3 Rh6+ Kg7 Rxh3 Kg6 Be3 Rxe4 Kd3 Re7 Rh6+ Kf5 Rh5+ Kg4 Rxa5 Rd7+ Bd4 f5 b4 f4 Ra6 f3 Rf6;
3rrnk1/pp3ppp/q1pbp3/8/2P1Q1NP/2B5/PP3PP1/3RR1K1 w - - acd 42; bm Bxg7; ce 547; book_answer: Rxd6; pm Bxg7; pv Bxg7 Kxg7 Rxd6 Qa5 Qe3 Qf5 Qh6+ Kh8 Re5 Rxd6 Rxf5 exf5 Qxd6 fxg4 Qd4+ Kg8 Qxg4+ Kh8 Qf4 Kg8 Qg5+ Ng6 h5 Re5 Qg4 b6 Kh2 Ra5 hxg6 hxg6 Qc8+ Kg7 Qxc6 Rxa2 Qd6 Ra4 b4 a5 bxa5 bxa5 Qd4+ Kf8 Qd8+ Kg7 c5 Rf4 Qxa5 Rxf2 Qb4 Kg8;
r4rk1/1p3pbp/1n1pq3/p5P1/3P4/1PN1BQ1R/1P5P/R6K w - - acd 43; bm Ne4; ce 534; book_answer: d5; pm Ne4; pv Ne4 Rfe8 Nf6+ Kf8 Rf1 Bxf6 gxf6 Qxe3 Qxe3 Rxe3 Rxe3 Nd7 Rh3 Kg8 Rg1+ Kh8 Rg7 Nf8 Rxf7 b5 Re7 d5 f7 Ra6 Rg3 Rg6 Rxg6 hxg6 Ra7 Kg7 Rxa5 b4 Rxd5 Kxf7 Rb5 Ke6 Rxb4 Kd6 Rb8 Ne6 Rg8;
2kr1b1r/pp1b1ppp/n1n1p3/1N6/4N3/P5P1/1P1BPP1P/R3KB1R w KQ - acd 41; bm Ned6+; ce 458; book_answer: Nbd6+; pm Ned6+; pv Ned6+ Kb8 Nxf7 Be7 Rd1 Bf6 Nxh8 Rxh8 Bg2 Rd8 Bc3 Nc5 Bxc6 bxc6 Bxf6 gxf6 Nc3 Kc7 b4 Nb3 Ne4 f5 Nf6 e5 Nxd7 Rxd7 Rxd7+ Kxd7 e3 c5 bxc5 Nxc5 O-O Ke6 f3 e4 fxe4 Nxe4 Rf4 Nc3 Rh4;
r1bqk2r/1pp2ppp/pb1p4/4n3/PPB1P3/2P5/R3QPPP/1NB1R1K1 b kq - acd 44; bm Nxc4; ce 314; book_answer: Nxc4; pm Nxc4; pv Nxc4 Qxc4 Be6 Qe2 Bxa2 Qxa2 O-O g3 Re8 Bf4 g5 a5 Ba7 Bc1 Qf6 c4 Bd4 Qc2 Qf3 Bxg5 Re6 Be3 Qxe4 Qb3 Bxe3 Rxe3 Qd4 Rf3 Rae8 Nc3 c6 Kg2 Rf6 Rxf6 Qxf6 Nd1 Re2 Qd3 Ra2 Qe3 Qe5 Qf3 h5 Ne3;
1r3rk1/1pp2ppp/3b4/1P2p3/Pn6/4PNP1/4NPKP/1R2R3 w - - acd 44; bm Red1; ce 227; book_answer: Nxe5; pm Red1; pv Red1 Ra8 Rxd6 cxd6 Rxb4 Rfc8 Kf1 Kf8 Ne1 f5 h4 Kf7 Nd3 Rc2 Ke1 Rac8 Rb3 Ra2 Nc3 Rc2 Nd5 Ra2 Rc3 Rxc3 Nxc3 Rc2 Nd5 Ra2 Nb6 Ke6 Nb4 Ra1+ Ke2 d5 N4xd5 Ra2+ Kf3 e4+ Kg2 Kd6 Nb4 Ra1;
1N4k1/4r3/8/8/8/8/1P4K1/8 b - - acd 99; bm Kf7; ce 0; book_answer: Re2+; pm Kf7; pv Kf7;
3r2k1/2r2p1p/8/R7/6pP/6P1/5P2/4R1K1 w - - acd 54; bm Rg5+; ce 0; book_answer: Rg5+; pm Rg5+; pv Rg5+ Kh8 Rxg4 Rcd7 Rf4 Kg7 Re5 h6 Rg4+ Kf8 Rf5 Rd5 Rxd5 Rxd5 Rc4 Kg7 g4 Rb5 Kf1 Rb1+ Kg2 Rb3 Rc1 Rb4 f3 h5 Kg3 hxg4 fxg4 Rb3+ Kg2 Rb2+ Kf3 Rb3+ Kg2;
4rk2/pppb1p2/3b2p1/7p/4r3/1PQ5/PBP2PPP/6K1 w - - acd 65; bm Qg7+; ce 0; book_answer: Qh8+; pm Qg7+; pv Qg7+ Ke7 Qf6+ Kf8;
7k/6p1/6Q1/2p5/8/q1b5/2P5/1K6 w - - acd 108; bm Qh5+; ce 0; book_answer: Qh5+; pm Qh5+; pv Qh5+ Kg8 Qe8+ Kh7 Qe4+ Kh6 Qh4+ Kg6 Qg4+ Kf6 Qf3+ Ke7 Qf7+ Kxf7;
7k/8/5NQ1/3P2B1/4PP1P/8/1p4P1/7K b - - acd 103; bm b1Q+; ce 0; book_answer: b1=Q+; pm b1Q+; pv b1Q+ Kh2 Qh1+ Kg3 Qxg2+ Kxg2;
r3k2r/ppp2ppp/8/8/4q3/8/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 b kq - acd 43; bm Qe7; ce 0; book_answer: O-O; pm Qe7; pv Qe7 Qh5 Qxe1+ Rxe1+ Kf8 Qf3 h5 Qxb7;
4r1k1/1pp2bbp/p5p1/5p2/5N2/2N2P2/PPP1B1PP/1K1R4 b - - acd 47; bm g5; ce -10; book_answer: Bxc3; pm g5; pv g5 Bd3 gxf4 Bxf5 Bxc3 bxc3 Re2 Rd8+ Kg7 Rd7 Kf6 Bxh7 Rxg2 Rd4 Rxh2 Rxf4+ Ke7 Be4 c6 Rg4 Kd6 Rg7 Ke6 Kb2 Kf6 Rg4 Ke5 c4 Bxc4 Bxc6 Bd3 Ba4 Be2 Re4+ Kd6 f4 Rf2 Kc3 Bg4 Bb3 b5 a4 Bf5 Rd4+ Kc6 axb5+ axb5;
8/p5n1/1r6/1p1Bkp2/5Rp1/1P6/PK3PP1/8 w - - acd 38; bm Rf3; ce -709; book_answer: Rb4; pm Rf3; pv Rf3 gxf3 Bxf3 Ne6 Be2 Nf4 Bf1 Kd4 Kc2 Nd5 a3 Rc6+ Kd2 Nc3 Bd3 Ne4+ Ke2 Re6 Bxe4 Rxe4+ Kd2 Rg4 g3 Re4 a4 b4 a5 Re7 Kc1 Kd3 a6;
8/1b6/1p1N4/4pk2/8/4K3/PP6/8 b - - acd 55; bm Ke6; ce -32713; book_answer: Ke6; dm -27; pm Ke6; pv Ke6 Nxb7 Kd5 Nd8 Kc5 Ke4 Kd6 Nf7+ Kc5 Nxe5 b5 Nd3+ Kb6 a4 bxa4;
4r3/1p6/p7/8/4k3/P7/KP6/4R3 b - - acd 39; bm Kd5; ce -32729; book_answer: Kd5; dm -19; pm Kd5; pv Kd5 Rxe8 Kd6 Kb3 Kd7 Rg8 Kc6 Kb4 Kb6 Rg7 a5+ Ka4 Ka6 Rg6+ b6 b4 Kb7 bxa5 bxa5;
Here is the analysis that I have:
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Re: Tactic pgn
The difficulty with the 29 problems is found in my c0 field, so if it is missing in your -ana file after you downloaded, try again.
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Re: Tactic pgn
Hi Dan,
thank you! 500 exercises - so 29 bugs dont matter for me.
Dan Heisman wrote that 8 books contain the basic patterns you have to burn in your brain to become a strong chess player.
So I want to have the missing 7 chess books in pgn format!
I cant belive that I cannot find „Bobby Fisher teaches chess“ online - its such a popular book!
Peter
thank you! 500 exercises - so 29 bugs dont matter for me.
Dan Heisman wrote that 8 books contain the basic patterns you have to burn in your brain to become a strong chess player.
So I want to have the missing 7 chess books in pgn format!
I cant belive that I cannot find „Bobby Fisher teaches chess“ online - its such a popular book!
Peter
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Re: Tactic pgn
I don't know about these specific books, but there are many other tactic collections available. For example, Bill Wall's site http://www.billwallchess.com/ has a massive compilation of everything about chess. W. T Harvey https://wtharvey.com/ 30000 puzzles from professional chess players. Then there is lichess puzzles database. There are tactics collections like Reinfeld (which is included in some engine test suites), Encyclopedia of Chess Combinations (several hundreds of them are in some engine test suites). There is a pgn collection of combinations by Auerswald containing 3500 tactics (included in LucasChess). Scid vs PC also comes with 2 tactics collections, which can be practiced in scid vs pc, but can also be exported to pgn. Norman Pollock's site http://www.nk-qy.info/40h/ has mate in N collections. But people may not share pgns of full books for copyright reasons.
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Re: Tactic pgn
A long time ago there was a site where a guy would analyze the contents of chess books.
He called it something like "annofritzing" and you could download many of the books.
HIs name was Gunther Ossimitz. Here is a wayback link to it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140220200 ... c/book.htm
I have analyzed all of the w.t.harvey positions.
For endgame positions, the most interesting source of information is the Harold van der Heijden endgame study database (HHdbVI) .
I think I paid $50 or $60 and I am entirely satisficed with the purchase.
There is also the Schwalbe PDB chess problem database: https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/index.jsp
www.arves.org and gameknot,com are both worthwhile.
He called it something like "annofritzing" and you could download many of the books.
HIs name was Gunther Ossimitz. Here is a wayback link to it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140220200 ... c/book.htm
I have analyzed all of the w.t.harvey positions.
For endgame positions, the most interesting source of information is the Harold van der Heijden endgame study database (HHdbVI) .
I think I paid $50 or $60 and I am entirely satisficed with the purchase.
There is also the Schwalbe PDB chess problem database: https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/index.jsp
www.arves.org and gameknot,com are both worthwhile.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
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Re: Tactic pgn
My dad gave me a bunch of chess books when I was little. Bobby Fisher teaches chess was the first chess book I bought with my own money. It is really a great way to learn. I also love the Yasser Seirawan chess books because he explains things so clearly. I think I have bought all of his books, but loaned a few out, and I don't remember who I loaned them to.
For someone who is learning, I think Fischer and Seirawan are really good teachers. Definitely beginner oriented.
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Re: Tactic pgn
Very nice find. Unfortunately, it seems most files are in chessbase format. I would have gladly accepted pgn of the books by Euwe and Krammer with annotations.Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:45 pm ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20140220200 ... c/book.htm
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Re: Tactic pgn
chesskobra wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:10 pmVery nice find. Unfortunately, it seems most files are in chessbase format. I would have gladly accepted pgn of the books by Euwe and Krammer with annotations.Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:45 pm ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20140220200 ... c/book.htm
Sorry, no annotations. I am unsure of copyright status for that.
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Re: Tactic PGN.
Hello Peter:
https://ia601000.us.archive.org/2/items ... 0Chess.pdf
I read some pages and found the content easy for me, despite my low level. It is true that I am not learning chess right now... if I had taken a glance to this book when I was learning, I would find it difficult.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
I guess you are talking about the book in PGN format. If not, I am surprised: I literally found a PDF file at the second result of the „Bobby Fisher teaches chess“ Google search:
https://ia601000.us.archive.org/2/items ... 0Chess.pdf
I read some pages and found the content easy for me, despite my low level. It is true that I am not learning chess right now... if I had taken a glance to this book when I was learning, I would find it difficult.
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.