I thought that was the "point", but only the creator knows for sure.metax wrote:No, the position cannot be saved indeed. The idea was that the wNh8 should both deliver mate and prevent the black king to go to g6 if I understood that correctly. So if you put a white pawn on f5 or a black piece on g6 (no knight), the white knight is 'only' delivering mate. Hope I got the point.LiquidNitrogenOverclocker wrote:Put a white pawn on f5.
Mate in 2
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Re: Mate in 2
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Re: Mate in 2
The position i posted came from an endgame study. The study is incorrect, i should have examined it more closely. Here is the full study -
[d]2n1n3/3Qp1RP/2Kb1k1P/8/3q4/6B1/8/8 w - - 0 1
[Event "1st_2nd Pr Corus_70 JT"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2008.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Bazlov, Y."]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2n1n3/3Qp1RP/2Kb1k1P/8/3q4/6B1/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "17"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
{Chess Informant} 1. Bh4+ $1 (1. Qxc8 $2 Qa4+ 2. Kd5 Nc7+ 3. Qxc7 Qd1+ 4. Kc6 Qc2+ 5. Kb5 Qb3+ 6. Ka6 Bxc7) (1. Rf7+ $2 Kxf7 2. Qf5+ Nf6 3. h8=N+ Kf8 4. Qxc8+ Ne8 5. Ng6+ Kf7 6. Qf5+ Qf6) 1... Qxh4 2. Rf7+ $1 Kxf7 3. Qf5+ Qf6 4. Qxf6+ exf6 (4... Nxf6 5. h8=Q Bf4 6. Qg7+ Ke6 7. h7 Nxh7 8. Qxh7 Nd6 9. Qg6+ Ke5 10. Kd7 $18) 5. h8=Q Bf8 $1 6. h7 (6. Qh7+ $2 Bg7 7. hxg7 Nxg7 8. Qe4 Ne7+ $11) 6... Ne7+ 7. Kd7 Ng7 8. Qg8+ $3 Nxg8 9. h8=N# $1 $18 1-0
[d]2n1n3/3Qp1RP/2Kb1k1P/8/3q4/6B1/8/8 w - - 0 1
[Event "1st_2nd Pr Corus_70 JT"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2008.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Bazlov, Y."]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2n1n3/3Qp1RP/2Kb1k1P/8/3q4/6B1/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "17"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
{Chess Informant} 1. Bh4+ $1 (1. Qxc8 $2 Qa4+ 2. Kd5 Nc7+ 3. Qxc7 Qd1+ 4. Kc6 Qc2+ 5. Kb5 Qb3+ 6. Ka6 Bxc7) (1. Rf7+ $2 Kxf7 2. Qf5+ Nf6 3. h8=N+ Kf8 4. Qxc8+ Ne8 5. Ng6+ Kf7 6. Qf5+ Qf6) 1... Qxh4 2. Rf7+ $1 Kxf7 3. Qf5+ Qf6 4. Qxf6+ exf6 (4... Nxf6 5. h8=Q Bf4 6. Qg7+ Ke6 7. h7 Nxh7 8. Qxh7 Nd6 9. Qg6+ Ke5 10. Kd7 $18) 5. h8=Q Bf8 $1 6. h7 (6. Qh7+ $2 Bg7 7. hxg7 Nxg7 8. Qe4 Ne7+ $11) 6... Ne7+ 7. Kd7 Ng7 8. Qg8+ $3 Nxg8 9. h8=N# $1 $18 1-0
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Re: Mate in 2
The study is correct, since White should win after 8...Kg6.David Dahlem wrote:The position i posted came from an endgame study. The study is incorrect, i should have examined it more closely. Here is the full study -
[d]2n1n3/3Qp1RP/2Kb1k1P/8/3q4/6B1/8/8 w - - 0 1
[Event "1st_2nd Pr Corus_70 JT"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2008.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Bazlov, Y."]
[Black "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "2n1n3/3Qp1RP/2Kb1k1P/8/3q4/6B1/8/8 w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "17"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
{Chess Informant} 1. Bh4+ $1 (1. Qxc8 $2 Qa4+ 2. Kd5 Nc7+ 3. Qxc7 Qd1+ 4. Kc6 Qc2+ 5. Kb5 Qb3+ 6. Ka6 Bxc7) (1. Rf7+ $2 Kxf7 2. Qf5+ Nf6 3. h8=N+ Kf8 4. Qxc8+ Ne8 5. Ng6+ Kf7 6. Qf5+ Qf6) 1... Qxh4 2. Rf7+ $1 Kxf7 3. Qf5+ Qf6 4. Qxf6+ exf6 (4... Nxf6 5. h8=Q Bf4 6. Qg7+ Ke6 7. h7 Nxh7 8. Qxh7 Nd6 9. Qg6+ Ke5 10. Kd7 $18) 5. h8=Q Bf8 $1 6. h7 (6. Qh7+ $2 Bg7 7. hxg7 Nxg7 8. Qe4 Ne7+ $11) 6... Ne7+ 7. Kd7 Ng7 8. Qg8+ $3 Nxg8 9. h8=N# $1 $18 1-0
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Re: Mate in 2
But the study doesn't include 8...Kg6. Instead it has 8...Nxg8 9. h8=N# Mate.lech wrote:The study is correct, since White should win after 8...Kg6.
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Re: Mate in 2
... 2 seconds with my human brain.
.......g7g8=Q+
kxk- h8=Knight ++
.......g7g8=Q+
kxk- h8=Knight ++
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Mate in 2
David, your first impresion was correct. You saw mate in 2, since 8...Kg6 is only a technical variant. You feel beauty!David Dahlem wrote:But the study doesn't include 8...Kg6. Instead it has 8...Nxg8 9. h8=N# Mate.lech wrote:The study is correct, since White should win after 8...Kg6.
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Re: Mate in 2
Actually i feel stupid.lech wrote:David, your first impresion was correct. You saw mate in 2, since 8...Kg6 is only a technical variant. You feel beauty!David Dahlem wrote:But the study doesn't include 8...Kg6. Instead it has 8...Nxg8 9. h8=N# Mate.lech wrote:The study is correct, since White should win after 8...Kg6.

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Re: Mate in 2
Don't it's created an interesting thread....maybe more people will create and posit some problems?David Dahlem wrote:Actually i feel stupid.lech wrote:David, your first impresion was correct. You saw mate in 2, since 8...Kg6 is only a technical variant. You feel beauty!David Dahlem wrote:But the study doesn't include 8...Kg6. Instead it has 8...Nxg8 9. h8=N# Mate.lech wrote:The study is correct, since White should win after 8...Kg6.

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