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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Hi Graham,

I don't like the most of the IPP family too, Rybka too. I think you know that. Interesting are the IvanHoe versions. More stability, really a quit different playing style after all what I saw. As well the latest versions of Fire seems to be more interesting as the first one.

Very interesting options for Fire and Ivanhoe. Yesterday I try out different from IvanHoe's uci options and here too ... it seems to work with a high stability.

For myself different of the IvanHoe versions seems to be interesting for my rating list.

And yes, it's right what you wrote with your example "TheKing".
You know, I know ... for each argument you can give contra which a good counter-argument. Much persons like that and do that often in computer chess fora :-)

After one year without clear profs from the site of the programmer of Rybka I think we should gave the topic more views.

To hold your position is the same as to hold the position of the IPP family site.

I have a big problem if a programmer comes with a statement ... all is from myself because it's absolutly clear that after all we know such a statement can be not right. I am sure that the programmer of Houdini is a very young programmer and search a bit acceptance. He should do that more which interesting messages to his own work (perhaps SMP, endgame knowledge). This one is more interesting as the statements he gave with the work others do. Read open chess ...

I think if you blocked this topic completly, with all the statements you gave, you don't stand for the good site because we dosen't have a good or a bad site. Maybe an error in reasoning from yourself.

All secrets to chess programming are since years widely known. The statement in the Stockfish interview is logical for myself. Read what Marco wrote in the Stockfish interview. To used know ideas isn't a criminal act.

This topic have in my opinion three different approaches. One of this views have to do with ethik / morale. But if people comes with statements to ethik / morale ... this group of poeple can't used in the same breath Rybka. It dosen't match.

You know that I prize highly your opinion. You are a very honest computer chess player. But in this case you should think about your position because no clear profs from the programmer of Rybka are available for us.

I wish you a nice day!

And all this in my bad English, nobody know what I mean :-)
Not important ...


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Re: Graham: America, the land of opportunity

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and the Americans are most proud of this.

So please ...
Go in the good old American style in exhibiting (exhibiting: hope the right word) position.

Play your first IvanHoe tourney and I am sure Mr. Lincoln will see that and will give you a better place in the group of honest Americans ... means if you go to heaven.

Believe me ...
The president himself, Mr. Lincoln (read a lot of him), will see that.

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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi Graham,

I don't like the most of the IPP family too, Rybka too. I think you know that. Interesting are the IvanHoe versions. More stability, really a quit different playing style after all what I saw. As well the latest versions of Fire seems to be more interesting as the first one.

Very interesting options for Fire and Ivanhoe. Yesterday I try out different from IvanHoe's uci options and here too ... it seems to work with a high stability.

For myself different of the IvanHoe versions seems to be interesting for my rating list.

And yes, it's right what you wrote with your example "TheKing".
You know, I know ... for each argument you can give contra which a good counter-argument. Much persons like that and do that often in computer chess fora :-)

After one year without clear profs from the site of the programmer of Rybka I think we should gave the topic more views.

To hold your position is the same as to hold the position of the IPP family site.

I have a big problem if a programmer comes with a statement ... all is from myself because it's absolutly clear that after all we know such a statement can be not right. I am sure that the programmer of Houdini is a very young programmer and search a bit acceptance. He should do that more which interesting messages to his own work (perhaps SMP, endgame knowledge). This one is more interesting as the statements he gave with the work others do. Read open chess ...

I think if you blocked this topic completly, with all the statements you gave, you don't stand for the good site because we dosen't have a good or a bad site. Maybe an error in reasoning from yourself.

All secrets to chess programming are since years widely known. The statement in the Stockfish interview is logical for myself. Read what Marco wrote in the Stockfish interview. To used know ideas isn't a criminal act.

This topic have in my opinion three different approaches. One of this views have to do with ethik / morale. But if people comes with statements to ethik / morale ... this group of poeple can't used in the same breath Rybka. It dosen't match.

You know that I prize highly your opinion. You are a very honest computer chess player. But in this case you should think about your position because no clear profs from the programmer of Rybka are available for us.

I wish you a nice day!

And all this in my bad English, nobody know what I mean :-)
Not important ...


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Frank
Hi Frank,

while I respect the right for everybody to make their own choice, I will not be testing any of the Ipp family engines. There are many other engines that are more deserving of attention (in my opinion) that I'm choosing to test instead.

Respectfully,
Graham.
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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Hi Graham,

and you are quit sure that the "many other engines" will get the compliment from Mr. Lincoln ... later ... if the programmers of these engines to go to heaven. Means, that all the others are really based on own ideas.

I respect the right for everybody to make their choice too Graham.

And now ... start "your" IvanHoe's :-)
You are an American ...

Respectfully too,
Frank
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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Frank Quisinsky wrote:You are an American ...
I'm a New Zealander. Slight difference. :wink:
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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Hi Graham,

long live the queen Elizabeth II.

Mr Lincoln and the Queen Elizabeth II have the same opinion to important questions of life.

None of your excuses ... or I tell all the King of Tonga and you can be sure that you go faster to heaven or you give up computer chess and make the first trainings in pole-jumping. The King of Tonga hold the record of Tonga in pole-jumping. Not a computer chess player ... a pole-jumper with over 80 years.

Furthermore, I have a penfriend in Niue. I have all over the World conection. In times Frank's Chess Page with all the Winboard stuff are available this person (today my penfriend) will give me a little present for the work I do. I wished me a coffee cup from Niue and got it. My penfriend have many friends too ... very danger friends ... very very danger friends ... most danger friends as your power of imagination is in your brain :-)

Start now your Ivanhoe's ...

:-)

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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Hi Frank.
What setting do you use for Rybka.

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Gerold.
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Re: @ For the Houdini programmer ...

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Hi Gerold,

the standard setting!
No changes!

Can you see if you download the SWCR configuration files. Available in my download selection.

Frank's Chess Page, SWCR
http://www.amateurschach.de

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