or SVE2?
https://wccftech.com/apple-m4-adopts-ar ... ficiently/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-compone ... 800-posted
Can Stockfish use AMX?
https://scalable.uni-jena.de/opt/sme/intro.html
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						Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?
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				Magnum
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?
Apple benchmarks were 100% always useless for chess, no exceptions yet to be presented.
			
			
									
						
										
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?
@Magnum:
Write to Apple to consider donating some machines to Lc0 and Stockfish devs, people need hands on to optimize stuff.
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?
1. Who cares about useless Geekbench? It has been proven worthless for comparing different architectures.Magnum wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 9:14 pm or SVE2?
Can Stockfish use AMX?
https://scalable.uni-jena.de/opt/sme/intro.html
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m3 ... 630/page-3
2. Who cares about single-core CPU performance? Why pay for 10 cores or more if you only intend to use one?
3. Stockfish can use AMX (it's just a compile option). The usefulness of AMX is another issue.
4. Apple generally underperforms and overprices its products. It's a platform more for posers than gamers or chess enthusiasts.
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?
A lot of nonsense.wickedpotus wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:09 pm1. Who cares about useless Geekbench? It has been proven worthless for comparing different architectures.Magnum wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 9:14 pm or SVE2?
Can Stockfish use AMX?
https://scalable.uni-jena.de/opt/sme/intro.html
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m3 ... 630/page-3
2. Who cares about single-core CPU performance? Why pay for 10 cores or more if you only intend to use one?
3. Stockfish can use AMX (it's just a compile option). The usefulness of AMX is another issue.
4. Apple generally underperforms and overprices its products. It's a platform more for posers than gamers or chess enthusiasts.
Example:
3. No Stockfish can't.
Sopel (Stockfish developer): no because it's a pessimisation
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/326 ... simization
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?
You're mixing things up it seems (common in Apple lala-landMagnum wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 9:27 amA lot of nonsense.wickedpotus wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:09 pm1. Who cares about useless Geekbench? It has been proven worthless for comparing different architectures.Magnum wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 9:14 pm or SVE2?
Can Stockfish use AMX?
https://scalable.uni-jena.de/opt/sme/intro.html
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m3 ... 630/page-3
2. Who cares about single-core CPU performance? Why pay for 10 cores or more if you only intend to use one?
3. Stockfish can use AMX (it's just a compile option). The usefulness of AMX is another issue.
4. Apple generally underperforms and overprices its products. It's a platform more for posers than gamers or chess enthusiasts.
Example:
3. No Stockfish can't.
Sopel (Stockfish developer): no because it's a pessimisation
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/326 ... simization