Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?

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Viz
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?

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Apple benchmarks were 100% always useless for chess, no exceptions yet to be presented.
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?

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@Magnum:

Write to Apple to consider donating some machines to Lc0 and Stockfish devs, people need hands on to optimize stuff.

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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?

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1. Who cares about useless Geekbench? It has been proven worthless for comparing different architectures.
2. Who cares about single-core CPU performance? Why pay for 10 cores or more if you only intend to use one?
3. Stockfish can use AMX (it's just a compile option). The usefulness of AMX is another issue.
4. Apple generally underperforms and overprices its products. It's a platform more for posers than gamers or chess enthusiasts.
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?

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wickedpotus wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 7:09 pm
1. Who cares about useless Geekbench? It has been proven worthless for comparing different architectures.
2. Who cares about single-core CPU performance? Why pay for 10 cores or more if you only intend to use one?
3. Stockfish can use AMX (it's just a compile option). The usefulness of AMX is another issue.
4. Apple generally underperforms and overprices its products. It's a platform more for posers than gamers or chess enthusiasts.
A lot of nonsense.

Example:
3. No Stockfish can't.
Sopel (Stockfish developer): no because it's a pessimisation
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/326 ... simization
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Re: Can Stockfish use SME or Scalable Matrix Extensions?

Post by wickedpotus »

Magnum wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 9:27 am
wickedpotus wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 7:09 pm
1. Who cares about useless Geekbench? It has been proven worthless for comparing different architectures.
2. Who cares about single-core CPU performance? Why pay for 10 cores or more if you only intend to use one?
3. Stockfish can use AMX (it's just a compile option). The usefulness of AMX is another issue.
4. Apple generally underperforms and overprices its products. It's a platform more for posers than gamers or chess enthusiasts.
A lot of nonsense.

Example:
3. No Stockfish can't.
Sopel (Stockfish developer): no because it's a pessimisation
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/326 ... simization
You're mixing things up it seems (common in Apple lala-land :-) ... Do you even know what AMX is? Have you yourself tried it on the Intel Sapphire Rapids? Why dont you just try it yourself on your overpriced Mac "clang -std=c11 -O3 -famx -o .... ...." ?